SN or H2S ?

[golfmavenice]

I have access to both H2S and SN.
And I understand that hydrogen sulphide might be extremely dangerous to first responders and bystanders, lethal dose is 120 mL of each chemical (lime sulfur and hydrochloric acid) in 3,300 L cabin volume and I can imagine mixing 2 liters of each. I think about H2S because it is very easy to create and has %95 success rate over 2000 cases.

I am continuously questioning SN because I don't like the idea of drinking something and possibly vomiting it. PPH says that vomiting may be a problem with this method and this bothers me so much. I am also worried about the speed, people say it takes 1-4 hours to die from SN but I am not sure really because what I heard from people in SS they said that some people gasped for air and suffered a lot during dying process, or it burned their throat and stomach a lot and sometimes their death took more than 4 hours to come.

If I had certain answers about SN I would probably go with SN method. But uncertainty about reliability and speed makes me question this method and makes me think that H2S is more reliable.

My questions about SN:
1)Can it take more than 4 hours for death to occur with SN method? I will be 8 hours alone in my house when I will attempt.
2) Does it cause gasping for air? If it does then does it mean it is not peaceful? When I read SN successful and unsuccessful attempts it was writing that people gasped for air. Is that true?
3) Is it possible for someone to vomit all of the SN and survive without medical intervention?

I hope someone can answer.
Thanks.

 

[Alex6216]

HS2 if done incorrectly is super painful, your eyes and nostrils will burn before it kills you/knocks you out so I think SN would be the better option. I guess you can mix the two methods together; get the HS2 equipment ready, drink SN then do the HS2 method the way you're supposed to do it. You'll go unconscious and the SN will also kill you if the HS2 doesnt

 

[Graytaichi]

1) it depends 1hr to 8hrs
2)just like a heavy work out no pain.
3)yes. Vomiting does not automatically fail , it depends on how much u take.

 

[freelifexit]

1. Yes
2. I seen posts where people gasped for air.
3. Yes

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I have access to both H2S and SN.
And I understand that hydrogen sulphide might be extremely dangerous to first responders and bystanders, lethal dose is 120 mL of each chemical (lime sulfur and hydrochloric acid) in 3,300 L cabin volume and I can imagine mixing 2 liters of each. I think about H2S because it is very easy to create and has %95 success rate over 2000 cases.

I am continuously questioning SN because I don't like the idea of drinking something and possibly vomiting it. PPH says that vomiting may be a problem with this method and this bothers me so much. I am also worried about the speed, people say it takes 1-4 hours to die from SN but I am not sure really because what I heard from people in SS they said that some people gasped for air and suffered a lot during dying process, or it burned their throat and stomach a lot and sometimes their death took more than 4 hours to come.

If I had certain answers about SN I would probably go with SN method. But uncertainty about reliability and speed makes me question this method and makes me think that H2S is more reliable.

My questions about SN:
1)Can it take more than 4 hours for death to occur with SN method? I will be 8 hours alone in my house when I will attempt.
2) Does it cause gasping for air? If it does then does it mean it is not peaceful? When I read SN successful and unsuccessful attempts it was writing that people gasped for air. Is that true?
3) Is it possible for someone to vomit all of the SN and survive without medical intervention?

I hope someone can answer.
Thanks.

Where did you get this info about 120ml ? Do you have a link
lethal dose is 120 mL of each chemical (lime sulfur and hydrochloric acid) in 3,300 L cabin volume and I can imagine mixing 2 liters of each.

 

[golfmavenice]

Where did you get this info about 120ml ? Do you have a link
lethal dose is 120 mL of each chemical (lime sulfur and hydrochloric acid) in 3,300 L cabin volume and I can imagine mixing 2 liters of each.

Where did you get this info about 120ml ? Do you have a link
lethal dose is 120 mL of each chemical (lime sulfur and hydrochloric acid) in 3,300 L cabin volume and I can imagine mixing 2 liters of each.

[Suicidal poisoning due to hydrogen sulfide produced by mixing a liquid bath essence containing sulfur and a toilet bowl cleaner containing hydrochloric acid] - PubMed

A 21-year-old man was found dead in a car. There were 9 empty bottles of 610HAP (a 440 g bottle of a liquid bath essence containing 160-195 g/kg sulfur) and 10 of Sunpole (a 500 mL bottle of a toilet bowl cleaner containing 9.5% HCl) in the car. The car doors were sealed with tape, and there was...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

To examine the amount of hydrogen sulfide produced, small portions of these liquids were mixed in a 560-mL volume flask. The results showed that 0.1 mL of each liquid produced 4,950 ppm of hydrogen sulfide, and 0.2 mL of each produced 10,800 ppm. According to these results, if the cabin volume is assumed to be 3,300 L, mixing 120 mL of each liquid produces a lethal level of hydrogen sulfide, i.e., 1,000 ppm. This was a rare suicide case, and it revealed the hazards of mixing of liquid bath essences containing sulfur and toilet bowl cleaners containing hydrochloric acid.

Note: There are more sources that say "1/2 cup of each chemical is lethal"

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

[Suicidal poisoning due to hydrogen sulfide produced by mixing a liquid bath essence containing sulfur and a toilet bowl cleaner containing hydrochloric acid] - PubMed

A 21-year-old man was found dead in a car. There were 9 empty bottles of 610HAP (a 440 g bottle of a liquid bath essence containing 160-195 g/kg sulfur) and 10 of Sunpole (a 500 mL bottle of a toilet bowl cleaner containing 9.5% HCl) in the car. The car doors were sealed with tape, and there was...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

To examine the amount of hydrogen sulfide produced, small portions of these liquids were mixed in a 560-mL volume flask. The results showed that 0.1 mL of each liquid produced 4,950 ppm of hydrogen sulfide, and 0.2 mL of each produced 10,800 ppm. According to these results, if the cabin volume is assumed to be 3,300 L, mixing 120 mL of each liquid produces a lethal level of hydrogen sulfide, i.e., 1,000 ppm. This was a rare suicide case, and it revealed the hazards of mixing of liquid bath essences containing sulfur and toilet bowl cleaners containing hydrochloric acid.

Note: There are more sources that say "1/2 cup of each chemical is lethal"

 

[golfmavenice]

Thanks for detailed information

Thanks for detailed information

Welding goggle can minimize the eye pain, by the way there were cases when the victims didn't even use anything(no welding goggles) and still died. I think this gas reaches lethal concentrations very fast(almost immediately)

Because more of each chemical, the more volume of the gas is produced which means faster and faster

 

[MusicToLogIn]

For the H2S method, is a tent enough? Or does it have to be a cabin, with solid walls? Thanks

 

[golfmavenice]

For the H2S method, is a tent enough? Or does it have to be a cabin, with solid walls? Thanks

Both would do it. If you are highly irritated about the possibility of hurting or killing others after your attempt then you can go with a tent, but it can be a little bit risky because opening the tent means the gas will drop to 0 ppm in 30 minutes if doing it outside. Doing it in a car, or in an abandoned building with warning signs is the best idea I guess...

 

[MusicToLogIn]

If it fails. Is the succession brain damage if it fails?
Edit: Because the brain doesn't get enough Oxygen?
Edit: Or is it more like, if there's enough of the gas it will kill you immediately.
Edit: Could you link me the right kind of chemicals here. So I get the right stuff.

 

[golfmavenice]

If it fails. Is the succession brain damage if it fails?
Edit: Because the brain doesn't get enough Oxygen?
Edit: Or is it more like, if there's enough of the gas it will kill you immediately.
Edit: Could you link me the right kind of chemicals here. So I get the right stuff.

It can't fail. There were 2000 cases of hydrogen sulfide suicide since 2007 and it has a %95 percent success rate. If you mix 120 mL of each chemical in a confined space it would produce nearly 1000 ppm h2s, which is the lethal amount. 1000 ppm can kill you in a breath. If you mix 15 times of this amount (2 liters of each) it will produce 15000 ppm hydrogen sulphide. 15 times the lethal amount. How it works is, you take a single intake of breath, collapse in a few seconds and die immediately. Even if you are found, successful rescue is unlikely because breathing is severely affected. H2S is lethal as cyanide.

If we look at 2000 cases, none of them had enough time to leave the area they produced h2s in. (%95 success rate)

Why do we mix 2 liters of each chemical? Because more of the volume, faster it renders you unconscious.

15000 ppm is more than enough.

Reliability is not a problem with this method, however, eye irritation(peacefullness) might be a problem with this method, because when the ppm is in extremely lethal levels, your eyes will hurt like hell. You can use welding goggles to reset the eye pain.

Smell of H2S is like rotten eggs or sweet smelling. However, you can't smell it in high concentrations because it paralyzes your mucous membranes.

You can look at your local lab supplier, hardware stores for lime sulfur. Hydrochloric acid is easily available, if you can't get it then you can own it from Lysol or Works(R) toilet bowl cleaner.

Note: I suggest you mixing the chemicals in buckets.

You need lime sulfur (calcium polysulfide)%28 and hydrochloric acid(%20)

Pet shops and soil product sellers have lime sulfur.

Hardware stores have hydrochloric acid. If can't buy hydrochloric acid then you can use Lysol or Works(R) toilet bowl cleaner.

 

[golfmavenice]

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Is that the right stuff?

Yes it is the right thing because it contains %29 calcium polysulfide. You only need 2 liters(64oz) of each chemical by the way. This product the is nearly 3 gallons(12 liters)

If you found your sulfur source, now you need hydrochloric acid.

Edit: You might need a welding goggle for maximum peacefulness.

You might want to delete the pictures asap.

 

[MusicToLogIn]

Maybe you can help me find a seller that ships to Germany.
Edit: Seems like everything is forbidden here.

 

[tonytwist007]

It can't fail. There were 2000 cases of hydrogen sulfide suicide since 2007 and it has a %95 percent success rate. If you mix 120 mL of each chemical in a confined space it would produce nearly 1000 ppm h2s, which is the lethal amount. 1000 ppm can kill you in a breath. If you mix 15 times of this amount (2 liters of each) it will produce 15000 ppm hydrogen sulphide. 15 times the lethal amount. How it works is, you take a single intake of breath, collapse in a few seconds and die immediately. Even if you are found, successful rescue is unlikely because breathing is severely affected. H2S is lethal as cyanide.

If we look at 2000 cases, none of them had enough time to leave the area they produced h2s in. (%95 success rate)

Why do we mix 2 liters of each chemical? Because more of the volume, faster it renders you unconscious.

15000 ppm is more than enough.

Reliability is not a problem with this method, however, eye irritation(peacefullness) might be a problem with this method, because when the ppm is in extremely lethal levels, your eyes will hurt like hell. You can use welding goggles to reset the eye pain.

Smell of H2S is like rotten eggs or sweet smelling. However, you can't smell it in high concentrations because it paralyzes your mucous membranes.

You can look at your local lab supplier, hardware stores for lime sulfur. Hydrochloric acid is easily available, if you can't get it then you can own it from Lysol or Works(R) toilet bowl cleaner.

Note: I suggest you mixing the chemicals in buckets.

You need lime sulfur (calcium polysulfide)%28 and hydrochloric acid(%20)

Pet shops and soil product sellers have lime sulfur.

Hardware stores have hydrochloric acid. If can't buy hydrochloric acid then you can use Lysol or Works(R) toilet bowl cleaner.

Will muriatic acid work in place of hydrochloric acid?

 

[golfmavenice]

Will muriatic acid work in place of hydrochloric acid?

Yes.

Maybe you can help me find a seller that ships to Germany.
Edit: Seems like everything is forbidden here.

4x16 oz Lime Sulfur DIP would be suitable for use. It should be available.

 

[MusicToLogIn]

Yates Lime Sulfur

Forms a protective film of sulfur which helps prevent the entry of fungus into fruit trees and ornamental plants.

www.yates.co.nz

Is that product viable? It says 200g/L in the description. Don't know how much ml that would be. Is it enough calcium polysulfide?
Edit: How much liter do I need of that? When each bottle is 500ml.
Edit: You said you need 2 liters of each chemical. Do you mean 2 liters of calcium polysulfide? Or 2 liters of chemicals with 28% calcium polysulfide.

 

[°Celsuis_Caesar]

If you're going the Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S) route, make sure to wear safety goggles to minimize any chance of it getting in your eyes

 

[golfmavenice]

Yates Lime Sulfur

Forms a protective film of sulfur which helps prevent the entry of fungus into fruit trees and ornamental plants.

www.yates.co.nz

Is that product viable? It says 200g/L in the description. Don't know how much ml that would be. Is it enough calcium polysulfide?
Edit: How much liter do I need of that? When each bottle is 500ml.
Edit: You said you need 2 liters of each chemical. Do you mean 2 liters of calcium polysulfide? Or 2 liters of chemicals with 28% calcium polysulfide.

This product is viable because it contains calcium polysulfide. You need 2 liters (4x500 mL bottles) of this product.

And you need 2 liters of hydrochloric acid.
For more information (detailed japanese info, see this:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/hydrogen-sulfide-gas-method.90103/