SN Observer

[Sea Turtle]

Hello all, I hope this is allowed. Please notify me if it is not and I will edit or remove as needed.

I have always been very scientific-minded, and have been interested in having an observer for when it is my time to CTB. I owe it to this site that I will not have to endure hours or days of suffering from OTC ODing, or affecting others from methods such as train or jumping. I hope to pay back this debt as well as my lifelong dedication to research by providing my experience as a case study for others to learn from. I intend on CTB using SN from source IC, and have previously posted my experience in getting the SN as well as documentation of the blood test.

I am interested in hearing from people who have been an observer or have previously looked into having an observer, as I am aware that there are many potential pitfalls regarding untrustworthy members, encouragement, pro-life, or legal issues. I hope to gain a full understanding of this, and seek to discover if having an observer is still desirable or at the least, doable. If anyone who has participated in this process is comfortable reaching out, I will be deeply grateful. My chats and conversations are open to those willing to discuss this with me.

On top of doing research, I suppose if it is determined that this is doable and will be of value, I will need someone who is willing to be an observer. I do not have a set date and my decision is not final, but I hope to be able to connect and trust someone if this is the path that I eventually decide to take. I will make no promises, but I suppose it does not hurt to reach out sooner rather then later. I only ask of the observer that they post whatever may happen if it ends up happening, and that they remain neutral in the matter. Again, I want to reiterate that I do not have a set date, though I do deeply feel that my death will inevitably be at my own hands. I am not looking for nor will I stand for encouragement either way.

Open to any questions or comments, thank you for reading.

 

[nightnightnitrite]

I'm personally not sure about the "rules" regarding that but I know there are some sick people out there that would like to watch for other reasons. Please pick somebody you semi know from this site and have had only pleasant interactions with. I would volunteer and even video chat back so you can see a smiling friendly face in the end but I don't think I could do it): I'm sorry and I hope you find somebody<3

 

[Someone123]

I think legal issues could get really dicey- if you don't ctb but get so sick that you want an ambulance and someone else has to call they might get in trouble for assisted suicide where it is not legal or attempted ,homicide or homicide- there are a lot of ways this can go wrong. People who post threads on here as they leave leave something behind. If you are careful enough you might be able to avoid the legal issues but a prosecutor who doesn't approve of this might prsecute anyway even if technically nothing was illegal- that would be a big concern, that even if it is technically done legally people in the legal system could find a way to convict in a situation like this because they are so against this. Many verdicts do not follow the letter of the law but iunstead go by what the people in the jury, or the judge, think is best,

 

[Sea Turtle]

I'm personally not sure about the "rules" regarding that but I know there are some sick people out there that would like to watch for other reasons. Please pick somebody you semi know from this site and have had only pleasant interactions with. I would volunteer and even video chat back so you can see a smiling friendly face in the end but I don't think I could do it): I'm sorry and I hope you find somebody<3

Thank you for the kind words and advice, it is much appreciated.
I am a bit concerned about the intentions of people for sure, which is why I'm still uncertain as to if it'll work out in the end. I suppose this is the beginning inquiry into it, as I've wanted to metaphorically "donate my body to science" for a long time. I unfortunately have not built up long term connections with anyone, as I took a long hiatus from the site.
No worries on that at all, I totally understand that it is a big ask and I don't expect it of anyone. Wish you the best

I think legal issues could get really dicey- if you don't ctb but so sick that you want an ambulance and someone else has to call they might get in trouble for assisted suicide where it is not legal or attempted ,homicide or homicide- there are a lot of ways this can go wrong. People who post threads on here as they leave leave something behind. If you are careful enough you might be able to avoid the legal issues but a prosecutor who doesn't approve of this might prsecute anyway even if technically nothing was illegal- that would be a big concern, that even if it is technically done legally people in the legal system could find a way to convict in a situation like this because they are so against this. Many verdicts do not follow the letter of the law but iunstead go by what the people in the jury, or the judge, think is best,

That is a concern of mine for sure, I would never want someone to suffer legal or even social consequences from this. I'm hoping to gain insight into potential preventative options and to see if it's feasible at all from people who are more legally versed or have done it before.
If this ends up happening, I will absolutely do my best to try to find the best and safest method (app, site or otherwise) to protect the observer. I also intend to be totally sure of my decision, which leaves responsibility of calling for help purely on myself, if that is what I wish to do.

 

[nightnightnitrite]

Of course! I completely understand! I just don't want anybody to take advantage of you in your most vulnerable time<3 I hope you do work something out!

 

[Graytaichi]

So what if the observor.there nothing he can do.if u decided to ctb no one here goingto stop you.by having a observor it only jeapatize the partner into unwanted problems.it only takes 4hrs for you to succeed.

 

[Sea Turtle]

So what if the observor.there nothing he can do.if u decided to ctb no one here goingto stop you.by having a observor it only jeapatize the partner into unwanted problems.it only takes 4hrs for you to succeed.

The observer is not there to encourage or stop it. I hope for them to be able to provide an accurate timeline of events, combined with data such as body weight, amount of SN/Water used, and the testing data from my previous thread in order to exist as a case study and educate others in the future.

 

[Graytaichi]

The observer is not there to encourage or stop it. I hope for them to be able to provide an accurate timeline of events, combined with data such as body weight, amount of SN/Water used, and the testing data from my previous thread in order to exist as a case study and educate others in the future.

We have lot of case study alreaady. There is no one size fits all. No 100% success.

 

[Someone123]

The observer is not there to encourage or stop it. I hope for them to be able to provide an accurate timeline of events, combined with data such as body weight, amount of SN/Water used, and the testing data from my previous thread in order to exist as a case study and educate others in the future.

You would need to plan for all contingencies. What if you passed out and had vomited some and appeared to be suffering a lot but did not ctb- then at some point would the observer feel duty-bound to call the police? This could get dicey.

 

[Sea Turtle]

We have lot of case study alreaady. There is no one size fits all. No 100% success.

The more data the better and there are not many that have a timeline of events, and I am specifically (planning on) using SN from IC. I'm not trying to prove 100% success or anything, it's merely a case study for future reference.

You would need to plan for all contingencies. What if you passed out and had vomited some and appeared to be suffering a lot but did not ctb- then at some point would the observer feel duty-bound to call the police? This could get dicey.

I understand. I am trying to get a grasp of all the logistical aspects that will need to be considered. I am in no rush to do this, should I eventually decide to pursue this path. In the end, if it doesn't work out I can give up the idea. I will definitely note that for consideration though. Thank you!

 

[WhiteDespair]

quite interesting. I'd like to know more.

 

[sadpinky]

I'm in the US, I observed a fellow Ss member CTB via sn that he purchased in his town. We chatted for a while, established a relationship with very little personal details as he just didn't want to go alone and also wanted the community to have a better insight into the method. We video chatted on discord until his last breath. He went in peace. I personally purchased SN from Ic and have it ready for my date which is also TBd . I'd also like to find someone to document and share those last minutes with. I welcome any questions.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I'm in the US, I observed a fellow Ss member CTB via sn that he purchased in his town. We chatted for a while, established a relationship with very little personal details as he just didn't want to go alone and also wanted the community to have a better insight into the method. We video chatted on discord until his last breath. He went in peace. I personally purchased SN from Ic and have it ready for my date which is also TBd . I'd also like to find someone to document and share those last minutes with. I welcome any questions.

May I send a PM?

 

[Someone123]

I'm in the US, I observed a fellow Ss member CTB via sn that he purchased in his town. We chatted for a while, established a relationship with very little personal details as he just didn't want to go alone and also wanted the community to have a better insight into the method. We video chatted on discord until his last breath. He went in peace. I personally purchased SN from Ic and have it ready for my date which is also TBd . I'd also like to find someone to document and share those last minutes with. I welcome any questions.

Well that is actually encouraging news about the method. Do you knwo if he had all the meds from Stan's Guide or just some of them? How long did it take to go unconscious after taking the sn?

 

[hopelessgirl]

Hello all, I hope this is allowed. Please notify me if it is not and I will edit or remove as needed.

I have always been very scientific-minded, and have been interested in having an observer for when it is my time to CTB. I owe it to this site that I will not have to endure hours or days of suffering from OTC ODing, or affecting others from methods such as train or jumping. I hope to pay back this debt as well as my lifelong dedication to research by providing my experience as a case study for others to learn from. I intend on CTB using SN from source IC, and have previously posted my experience in getting the SN as well as documentation of the blood test.

I am interested in hearing from people who have been an observer or have previously looked into having an observer, as I am aware that there are many potential pitfalls regarding untrustworthy members, encouragement, pro-life, or legal issues. I hope to gain a full understanding of this, and seek to discover if having an observer is still desirable or at the least, doable. If anyone who has participated in this process is comfortable reaching out, I will be deeply grateful. My chats and conversations are open to those willing to discuss this with me.

On top of doing research, I suppose if it is determined that this is doable and will be of value, I will need someone who is willing to be an observer. I do not have a set date and my decision is not final, but I hope to be able to connect and trust someone if this is the path that I eventually decide to take. I will make no promises, but I suppose it does not hurt to reach out sooner rather then later. I only ask of the observer that they post whatever may happen if it ends up happening, and that they remain neutral in the matter. Again, I want to reiterate that I do not have a set date, though I do deeply feel that my death will inevitably be at my own hands. I am not looking for nor will I stand for encouragement either way.

Open to any questions or comments, thank you for reading.

I could be an observer if you'd like :-)

 

[sadpinky]

May I send a PM?

Sure

Well that is actually encouraging news about the method. Do you knwo if he had all the meds from Stan's Guide or just some of them? How long did it take to go unconscious after taking the sn?

I'm sure if you look back through my postings you'll find my not so scientific documentation.