Method SN + Morphine + Phenobarbital

[Demian]

Well, for those who haven't seen my thread, in a nutshell: I attempted suicide with 3 grams of morphine and 21 grams of phenobarbital, I panicked and, miraculously, I survived.

I'm thinking of using SN in addition to phenobarbital and morphine.

Is that a good thing or will it get in the way?

I know that morphine and phenobarbital increase each other's effect, but Idk about SN with them.

I'm also thinking of using a little alcohol.

Idk if it's a good idea.

 

[sanitystruggle]

The pheno and morphine would help take the edge off the SN experience, as long as you're still together enough to go through with it (similar to the benzos in the conventional regimes).

Only way I could see them interfering is if they increased vomiting but you've taken them before so you should have some idea how they effect you that way.

 

[rozeske]

Don't mix and match. Better stick with just one and take the appropriate dosage plus follow the protocol properly. Avoid drinking alcohol as it can induce vomiting.

 

[Demian]

The pheno and morphine would help take the edge off the SN experience, as long as you're still together enough to go through with it (similar to the benzos in the conventional regimes).

Only way I could see them interfering is if they increased vomiting but you've taken them before so you should have some idea how they effect you that way.

Thank you!

I forgot to mention, I'm going to take anti-vomiting medication too.

Don't mix and match. Better stick with just one and take the appropriate dosage plus follow the protocol properly. Avoid drinking alcohol as it can induce vomiting.

OK, thanks!

 

[Justnotme]

Hey, I'm also thinking about using phenobarbital and sodium nitrite (I don't have morphine).
If I choose this method.
There really is a problem here.
Phenobarbital can be sedated if you take a lot of pills. And this is a positive phenomenon.
But then, during vomiting, you will not be able to drink a second glass, because you will already be unconscious due to phenobarbital.
Another question is: is a second glass of sodium nitrite really necessary in this case?

Another problem: if there is vomiting due to nitrite, it turns out that during vomiting a large amount of phenobarbital will also come out, which has not yet had time to be absorbed in the body.

I thought like this: I will drink 12 grams of phenobarbital and as soon as I feel the onset of sedation, I will immediately drink sodium nitrite.
But as I said, you can throw up both sodium nitrite and phenobarbital... And what will come of it is unclear.

I read on the Internet that vomiting can occur due to taking a large amount of phenobarbital. And that's the difficulty.

In general, it feels like we just have to hope for the best.

So far, I still don't deny the idea of taking phenobarbital before sodium nitrite...

 

[lnlybnny]

i wouldn't use the alcohol, as the sn is already toxic by itself... it would only induce vomit, and that's everything you wouldn't want using sn to ctb

 

[Demian]

Hey, I'm also thinking about using phenobarbital and sodium nitrite (I don't have morphine).
If I choose this method.
There really is a problem here.
Phenobarbital can be sedated if you take a lot of pills. And this is a positive phenomenon.
But then, during vomiting, you will not be able to drink a second glass, because you will already be unconscious due to phenobarbital.
Another question is: is a second glass of sodium nitrite really necessary in this case?

Another problem: if there is vomiting due to nitrite, it turns out that during vomiting a large amount of phenobarbital will also come out, which has not yet had time to be absorbed in the body.

I thought like this: I will drink 12 grams of phenobarbital and as soon as I feel the onset of sedation, I will immediately drink sodium nitrite.
But as I said, you can throw up both sodium nitrite and phenobarbital... And what will come of it is unclear.

I read on the Internet that vomiting can occur due to taking a large amount of phenobarbital. And that's the difficulty.

In general, it feels like we just have to hope for the best.

So far, I still don't deny the idea of taking phenobarbital before sodium nitrite...

Yes, that's the problem: vomiting.

I should buy anti-vomit if I'm going to use this method anyway.

I don't remember if I threw up. I'll ask those who were in hospital with me and I'll let you know.

My fear is that I'll survive and be left with sequelae.

i wouldn't use the alcohol, as the sn is already toxic by itself... it would only induce vomit, and that's everything you wouldn't want using sn to ctb

You're right about that

 

[Relic]

Those who are into it, pheno can be plugged. Other than that, the SN regimen is strictly what it is, no fooling around.

Relative bioavailability of rectally administered phenobarbital sodium parenteral solution - PubMed

Rectal administration of antiepileptic drugs may be a useful alternative route when oral administration is not possible due to illness, surgery, or status epilepticus. Although parenteral administration often replaces oral administration in these circumstances, there is not always a desirable...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov