Help SN arrived today

[PhDone]

I took delivery of 500g SN today. Question is now to confirm if it is real and pure. Of course I have suspicions. The bottle it is in is already opened, its cap is like a standard water bottle so has a ring that you need to break the cap away from to turn it. This is already broken. But I wonder if this is just cause its a custom fill?

There is no label per se, just a small sticker saying "toner". It was from a chem company in China and they said they would label it something different to make it easier. I didnt ask them to do this but they suggested they would. Is this suspicious not having a printed label?

Is it a concern to the quality to be in a capped bottle with cap able to be opened already? Or could customs have opened it?

I will test it using Water Works nitrite/nitrate strips. These are to 10mg/L nitrite and 50mg/L nitrate. The chem co emailed me a CoA that says it should be 99%. So assume that means it should be all nitrite (i.e. have no nitrate or anything else for that matter in it?). So nitrate colour reading should be white/clear.

Will report back after testing but keen to have advice on the questions. Thanks all.

 

[kinderbueno]

Good luck!

 

[Praestat_Mori]

The only thing you can do is testing as you already have mentioned. Good luck! It must be so relieving to have a method at hand.

 

[rozeske]

Mislabeling is not something new so it's not suspicious but I'm not sure about the broken cap thing. Testing is the only way to be sure. Good luck.

 

[scubadam]

i believe that if the customs opened it, they would leave some kind of a note in a packaging that they did that. good luck!

 

[PhDone]

i believe that if the customs opened it, they would leave some kind of a note in a packaging that they did that. good luck!

That makes sense. Thanks for that.

Mislabeling is not something new so it's not suspicious but I'm not sure about the broken cap thing. Testing is the only way to be sure. Good luck.

Thank you. Yes I did wonder re the labelling.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Test.

 

[PhDone]

Waiting for delivery of scales to do an accurate test so meantime dropped a tiny amount of the salt into 1L water to see what I got. Test strips read same colour of nitrite and nitrate.

Contacted the supplier to check and they said nitrate would be present as the AR reagent. What does this mean? When I replied that there seemed to be a highish concentration of nitrate he said this could happen if exposed to air and oxidised. Could that really happen to that extent during air freight?

They seem a legit company. He even offered to send my test results to their testing team.

Thoughts?

 

[LifeQuitter]

I wouldn't worry about testing it too much if you bought from a known source/brand.

 

[PhDone]

I wouldn't worry about testing it too much if you bought from a known source/brand.

But what about his answer re the salt having oxidised? In the SN bible post the testing example shows strong result for nitrite and weak/none for nitrate. Mine shows nitrate clear positive. I'd have thought if its 99% pure that there should be bugger all else in it.

I dont feel like hoping for the best in this circumstance

 

[LifeQuitter]

It's a stable substance and should last for years in a sealed container.

Are you sure what you ordered was the right stuff?

 

[PhDone]

It's a stable substance and should last for years in a sealed container.

Are you sure what you ordered was the right stuff?

Yeah I def ordered sodium nitrite, got the CoA cert too. I was thinking that maybe they shipped the wrong thing. I guess I cant be certain. But the company have been super communicative and offered to review my test results if I feel theyre not right. I cant imagine a dodgy supplier doing that?

So odd. Looks like the right thing but definitely a strong result for nitrate.

 

[InTheAbyss]

Were you able to find out about the purity of the SN you got? I recently received some SN in about the exact same way you did. In an open bottle and clumped together. I tested a little in a bowl of distilled water and got a similar result. The test strips were for up to 25ppm nitrite and 500ppm nitrate and both maxed out. So I'm having similar questions that you were having.

 

[PhDone]

Were you able to find out about the purity of the SN you got? I recently received some SN in about the exact same way you did. In an open bottle and clumped together. I tested a little in a bowl of distilled water and got a similar result. The test strips were for up to 25ppm nitrite and 500ppm nitrate and both maxed out. So I'm having similar questions that you were having.

I never solved it. The company insisted it was 99% pure. Said it must have oxidised in transport. I cant believe that would affect such a strong max test for both nitrite and nitrite. I ended up deciding to go try some other suppliers. I have two new samples just arrived and will test them over the next day or so.

 

[Bear1234]

Did you get it from DMC? or is this a diff supplier?

 

[justamirror]

can anyone PM me source?

 

[InTheAbyss]

I never solved it. The company insisted it was 99% pure. Said it must have oxidised in transport. I cant believe that would affect such a strong max test for both nitrite and nitrite. I ended up deciding to go try some other suppliers. I have two new samples just arrived and will test them over the next day or so.

Can you let me know how it goes? I'm still working on getting enough posts to be able to pm. I'm curious to see if they give the same results. How did you do the testing? I saw 2 methods so far on the site. But they didn't seem compatible with each other. I tried the one in the SN bible thread. But the results were weird. Like with the strips that I had the nitrite and nitrate amounts combined were higher than the amount of powder that should've been in there. Almost like both strips were giving nearly the same reading regardless of the ratios of nitrite to nitrate. I should be getting some different test kits tomorrow to test again and see what results they give. They also sold as 99% pure and was expensive to get shipped. I saw that there were other suppliers there that might ship for cheaper. But I don't know if they are really different suppliers or not.

I'm going to try another test when the new kits come in. But I think that regardless I'm probably going to try a more "practical" test a bit later this week.

 

[mistakenhope08]

I never solved it. The company insisted it was 99% pure. Said it must have oxidised in transport. I cant believe that would affect such a strong max test for both nitrite and nitrite. I ended up deciding to go try some other suppliers. I have two new samples just arrived and will test them over the next day or so.

Are you all from the Philippines?

 

[PhDone]

Can you let me know how it goes? I'm still working on getting enough posts to be able to pm. I'm curious to see if they give the same results. How did you do the testing? I saw 2 methods so far on the site. But they didn't seem compatible with each other. I tried the one in the SN bible thread. But the results were weird. Like with the strips that I had the nitrite and nitrate amounts combined were higher than the amount of powder that should've been in there. Almost like both strips were giving nearly the same reading regardless of the ratios of nitrite to nitrate. I should be getting some different test kits tomorrow to test again and see what results they give. They also sold as 99% pure and was expensive to get shipped. I saw that there were other suppliers there that might ship for cheaper. But I don't know if they are really different suppliers or not.

I'm going to try another test when the new kits come in. But I think that regardless I'm probably going to try a more "practical" test a bit later this week.

Thats exactly what my test did. I just took delivery of the two new sample so will test them over next day or so. I got proper precision scales too now so that might help. I also now have 3 different types of test strips. Basically 3 different max concentrations. Will let you know asap. The samples this time were totally sealed where the last one the screw lid was on but seal to the collar at the neck of the bottle was broken.

Are you all from the Philippines?

No I'm not

 

[InTheAbyss]

Thats exactly what my test did. I just took delivery of the two new sample so will test them over next day or so. I got proper precision scales too now so that might help. I also now have 3 different types of test strips. Basically 3 different max concentrations. Will let you know asap. The samples this time were totally sealed where the last one the screw lid was on but seal to the collar at the neck of the bottle was broken.

No I'm not

Thanks. I got the new kits and got similar results to the first set of strips. I also got one of those chemical test kits. But again I'm not sure what to make of it. I made a separate post with a pic of the results of the chemical test to see what people think the purity is. Haven't gotten anyone to say so far.

I was planning to just find out the hard way and trying it this week. As with the long weekend this weekend. I didn't have to be anywhere or meet anyone for about 6 days. That'd either give it enough time to work or for me to recover without anyone knowing if it wasn't pure enough. But it's like the universe is working against me. Appointments started popping up and now work is offering me the extra hours I was wanting. I have to keep up appearances with everyone. But now my 6 days is cut down to 2...

 

[PhDone]

Thanks. I got the new kits and got similar results to the first set of strips. I also got one of those chemical test kits. But again I'm not sure what to make of it. I made a separate post with a pic of the results of the chemical test to see what people think the purity is. Haven't gotten anyone to say so far.

I was planning to just find out the hard way and trying it this week. As with the long weekend this weekend. I didn't have to be anywhere or meet anyone for about 6 days. That'd either give it enough time to work or for me to recover without anyone knowing if it wasn't pure enough. But it's like the universe is working against me. Appointments started popping up and now work is offering me the extra hours I was wanting. I have to keep up appearances with everyone. But now my 6 days is cut down to 2...

Fuck. This test scenario is shit. Its hard enough figuring how to ctb without having to just hope the purity is ok. So all your tests have shown presence of nitrate too? The test example given in the SN bible definitely has clear for nitrate and dark colour (max concentration) for nitrite.

Does opening the samples to test affect purity? I'm still getting hold of propranolol so not sure I want to have them sat open til I'm ready….but if they're not pure enough….

Have you got AE sorted?

I hope you're finding space and clarity somewhere through this. Sounds like your work are keen for you. Look after yourself and I hope we finally get the peace we deserve.

 

[InTheAbyss]

Fuck. This test scenario is shit. Its hard enough figuring how to ctb without having to just hope the purity is ok. So all your tests have shown presence of nitrate too? The test example given in the SN bible definitely has clear for nitrate and dark colour (max concentration) for nitrite.

Does opening the samples to test affect purity? I'm still getting hold of propranolol so not sure I want to have them sat open til I'm ready….but if they're not pure enough….

Have you got AE sorted?

I hope you're finding space and clarity somewhere through this. Sounds like your work are keen for you. Look after yourself and I hope we finally get the peace we deserve.

Here's the post I made. Maybe you can tell the colors better than I can. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-purity-testing.176961/
The new test strips felt worthless. All show nitrate as far as I can tell.

I'm not sure on opening the samples. There was a thread that I read saying that it lasted a surprisingly long time after opened if you kept it in the right conditions. But I have no experience with that myself and wouldn't know for sure.

Is the propranolol for anxiety? I don't have that. Wasn't planning on it.

For an AE I have domperidone already for legitimate reasons. I was going to be prescribed meto but the pharmacy said it would have a severe reaction with one of my other meds so they switched it. I take 15-18 pills a day depending on the day. Plus some pain meds of some days. It just happened that the last med that got prescribed was the AE. But for stomach emptying purposes.

I have "start conversation" available now. Is that the forum's version of PMs?

Work is seasonal and part time. But they happen to like me and work with my health problems. Can take extra breaks whenever I need to without having to talk to someone first and they don't mind that I have lots of doc appointments. Where I often get them without warning and I can go in in the morning and say I have to leave early that day without issue.

 

[Onelessstraw]

Thats exactly what my test did. I just took delivery of the two new sample so will test them over next day or so. I got proper precision scales too now so that might help. I also now have 3 different types of test strips. Basically 3 different max concentrations. Will let you know asap. The samples this time were totally sealed where the last one the screw lid was on but seal to the collar at the neck of the bottle was broken.

No I'm not

Hi, could you dme where you got your samples from? I've been searching for hours with no luck

 

[nasigoreng99]

Please refer to this post, the OP also did test and had both nitrite and nitrate results.

I tested CCS SN with test strips tonight.

Where did you get that info, that nitrate will be present? I wasn't aware of that. I may test it again, idk. SN is really not my preferred method as I have a very sensitive stomach. Like most here I prefer N. Look at this test result both nitrite and nitrate are high in cup 1 Even in cup 2...

sanctioned-suicide.net

See the last update in that post

 

[PhDone]

Please refer to this post, the OP also did test and had both nitrite and nitrate results.

I tested CCS SN with test strips tonight.

Where did you get that info, that nitrate will be present? I wasn't aware of that. I may test it again, idk. SN is really not my preferred method as I have a very sensitive stomach. Like most here I prefer N. Look at this test result both nitrite and nitrate are high in cup 1 Even in cup 2...

sanctioned-suicide.net

See the last update in that post

Thanks for this. Thats seems to support that nitrate pads would show colour too even if purity of nitrite is 99%?

 

[nasigoreng99]

Thanks for this. Thats seems to support that nitrate pads would show colour too even if purity of nitrite is 99%?

Thats what i understand from the post.

If only nitrate exists, nitrite pad is white
If nitrite exists higher, the nitrate pad also show colour.
If both exist, nitrate pad will be darker.

Quote from the Op:
"The chemistry of both test pads is based on the Griess reaction. The only difference is that the Nitrate test pad includes metal. The metal reduces the nitrate to nitrite which is then reacted per the Griess reaction.

Solutions containing Nitrite will react both test pads, as you observed. Solutions with only Nitrate present will only react with the Nitrate pad.

Solutions with both species present will react on both test pads. The Nitrate test pad will be darker. If both pads react, the Nitrate level should be corrected by subtracting any Nitrite results from the Nitrate results.

In practice, the amount of Nitrite present in water samples is usually very low when compared to the Nitrate levels."