SN and screaming cats

[Teddybear]

I've recently read in a post on SancSu that SN was - when first discovered to be lethal - found to be an exceedingly painful way to go (description of a boy's death near a factory and cats being killed with SN screaming all the way).

I am not sure if this violates forum policy now, but I really, truly would love some clarification on that.

I've got my bottle of SN waiting for me in the room next door and I thought it would offer me a quick and painless route out of here. Was I wrong??

 

[Forever Sleep]

Was this from the post: 'Blue Men and Dead Cats. More Fatal SN Reports'? Felt pretty worried seeing your post, so wanted to check it out.

I'm obviously not an expert but I'd probably suggest a few things: The poor boy who happened to find the SN on a junk pile was only 2 years old. The article said he immediately started crying (not screaming) and ran home but collapsed on the way vomiting. (That poor kid.) They couldn't save him sadly. Of course- I can't say whether he was in pain or not but I imagine the taste alone would be enough to make a 2 year old cry.

As for the poor cat they decided to experiment on, they put the SN in a capsule- so I imagine this might have slowed down the process. I think people advise against doing that. Obviously though- it does sound awful in the description of the poor animal's death.

The other thing that stood out was that this happened in 1932. I know sodium nitrite was identified back then as the poison and I'm no chemist- so I wouldn't have a clue whether it has been altered over the decades. Obviously, it's important to be aware if something is likely going to cause excruciating pain but I'd kind of prefer to focus on the more recent reports we have on SN poisoning- which don't sound so horrific. That said, we are all taking a risk of course.

 

[eldiablo666]

I believe the death by SN to vary a lot depending on your metabolism and overall genetics.
I think N is a much safer option in that regard if you're absolutely decided you don't want to experience any pain in death.

As for the cats, I'd say that's just a story.
Take it with a grain of salt.

Also considering the fact if a cat would ingest SN it wouldn't follow protocol, right?
It would have perhaps food in its belly which would make the process of dying by SN slower, and in turn, creating these screams of pain.

 

[leeloosnow]

one of the things i learned in my own sn research is that its used to poison (bait) invasive wild hogs, seemed to be advocated as more humane and cost efficient but i really rather not read into critter killing, hogs included. also, the internet hates catkillers and even made a series abt it, so would make for a good scare tactic. i haven't read the article and i'm already skeptical of its validity.
no death is going to be painless, there is discomfort noted in the guide. there's commonalities in how various species display pain differently, for example i reviewed the 'mouse grimace scale' with a pet adopter today to help him understand why their pet rodent may be feeling unwell to some degree. i guess over time, thought, and a lot of reading sasu ppls experiences/observations, i'm not so worried abt pain. i think it'll be somewhere on the uncomfortable scale, but i plan to use the 'luxury meds' and methodology mentioned in stans guide to handle the worst of it. guess i'm more worried abt privacy, loose ends and work undone at this point,

 

[Teddybear]

one of the things i learned in my own sn research is that its used to poison (bait) invasive wild hogs, seemed to be advocated as more humane and cost efficient but i really rather not read into critter killing, hogs included. also, the internet hates catkillers and even made a series abt it, so would make for a good scare tactic. i haven't read the article and i'm already skeptical of its validity.
no death is going to be painless, there is discomfort noted in the guide. there's commonalities in how various species display pain differently, for example i reviewed the 'mouse grimace scale' with a pet adopter today to help him understand why their pet rodent may be feeling unwell to some degree. i guess over time, thought, and a lot of reading sasu ppls experiences/observations, i'm not so worried abt pain. i think it'll be somewhere on the uncomfortable scale, but i plan to use the 'luxury meds' and methodology mentioned in stans guide to handle the worst of it. guess i'm more worried abt privacy, loose ends and work undone at this point,

Yeah, but where to get those luxury meds from? Specially in a "progressive" Western country.

I hate the feeling of helplessness and nothing would make me feel more helpless than laying incapacitated and alone in bed and feeling increasing "discomfort", waiting for death to relieve me.

I would either prefer a 45 caliber to the brain stem or a "sleep in peace and never wake up" solution in my glass.

What I've read about SN in that original depiction sounds like anything but peaceful.

 

[freelifexit]

I thought it would offer me a quick and painless route out of here. Was I wrong??

Some cases are painful, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

In this document where failed attempts collected most cases are relatively painless and some of them really discomforting (tachycardia, headache, one case of blindness that recovered and one case couldn't move or talk). Recommend you to read this.

Here is the worst cases from forum members:

Post in thread 'I've tried SN & it's not for me. Been researching. First post btw!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...researching-first-post-btw.96193/post-1681369

"Excruciating headache, vomiting, felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest - like my pulse from my neck felt like it was gonna burst. Not peaceful at all. Not how they say. I also couldn't walk & needed help."

Thread 'Snorting sn'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/snorting-sn.86951/

"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in
In my life so much vomiting and pain if I snort it instead will it go straight into my blood stream I can't go through that pain again when it didn't even work"

Thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/

"Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank - after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking.

Chat room: 25g, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing,

Kukubananas : cannot breathe

timetogo:, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe."

Post in thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/post-1383070

"So I went to bed thinking I would fall asleep and ctb but instead I went through 4 hours of hell like suffocating. I didn't throw up at all a bit nauseous was all. I took 1000 mg naproxen before but at the end I got the worst headache of my life."

Post in thread 'Sources and scam megathread'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sources-and-scam-megathread.94434/post-1728298

"Our friend passed away last week with SN. He suffered terribly and had a terrible death struggle even though he followed the guide."

It is obvious that following a regime (pills) does not guarantee a peaceful death, but somehow this is a common misconception.

 

[Teddybear]

So where is the alternative? I thought SN would be my miracle powder out of here. But now it sounds more like: Shit in, shit out

All my life I was in fear and pain - and now I can't even get a peaceful exit? This sucks almost as much as life itself. :(

 

[Willto]

Some cases are painful, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

In this document where failed attempts collected most cases are relatively painless and some of them really discomforting (tachycardia, headache, one case of blindness that recovered and one case couldn't move or talk). Recommend you to read this.

Here is the worst cases from forum members:

Post in thread 'I've tried SN & it's not for me. Been researching. First post btw!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...researching-first-post-btw.96193/post-1681369

"Excruciating headache, vomiting, felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest - like my pulse from my neck felt like it was gonna burst. Not peaceful at all. Not how they say. I also couldn't walk & needed help."

Thread 'Snorting sn'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/snorting-sn.86951/

"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in
In my life so much vomiting and pain if I snort it instead will it go straight into my blood stream I can't go through that pain again when it didn't even work"

Thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/

"Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank - after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking.

Chat room: 25g, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing,

Kukubananas : cannot breathe

timetogo:, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe."

Post in thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/post-1383070

"So I went to bed thinking I would fall asleep and ctb but instead I went through 4 hours of hell like suffocating. I didn't throw up at all a bit nauseous was all. I took 1000 mg naproxen before but at the end I got the worst headache of my life."

Post in thread 'Sources and scam megathread'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sources-and-scam-megathread.94434/post-1728298

"Our friend passed away last week with SN. He suffered terribly and had a terrible death struggle even though he followed the guide."

It is obvious that following a regime (pills) does not guarantee a peaceful death, but somehow this is a common misconception.

Do you have similar documentation on things going smoothly?

 

[freelifexit]

Do you have similar documentation on things going smoothly?

I shared link to document with failed cases described, most of them painless. Recommend you to read it, it is very informative.

 

[Teddybear]

One Reddit there is a post from a nurse, paramedic and someone's uncle who said they witnessed SN deaths and they are absolutely horrific.

Can you post a URL for that, please, or PM it to me?

 

[achromatic]

I was worried about it too, gosh
After waking up from attempt I was terrified that my cat licked the glass and died and that my parents hide his death from me to not make me even more mentally disturbed. He is fine, btw - cops creeped him out and he stayed hidden somewhere.
Wanted to let him go to the garden, before, but took propranolol, forgot and had intense staring contest with SN bottle.
Yeah I'm dumb cock not a person, confirmed
Pls y'all for the love of whatever take good take of your animals safety before ctb and your success might depend on it as well.
Blue man and dead cats- sounds like great novel title, though
Btw I'm not a cat ( I wish I were) but I supposedly screamed after poisoning and have no reason to believe I did not.

 

[hopelessgirl]

if you just google SN and reddit you'll find it

I tried to Google it and couldn't find it

 

[ge0rge]

 

[Papilio_polyxenes]

SN is fatal because it is an oxidizing agent that results in an overproduction of methemoglobin at the expense of hemoglobin.

In plain language, it starves vital organs of oxygen by interfering with your red blood cells. That's why the skin turns blue afterwards - cyanosis.

There is a risk that you wake up screaming covered in your own shit and bloody vomit. SN is a foreign substance that the body will try to expel. It is only peaceful if you lose consciousness before it takes full effect.

If you stay awake past 20 minutes, then you'd experience confusion (losing oxygen to brain), respiratory distress, and arrhythmic episodes. SN is not a magic sleeping powder. Even I make the mistake of calling it painless, but there's simply no guarantee that it will be.

Don't rush into doing anything without research because of what other people say.

 

[Judy Garland]

SN is fatal because it is an oxidizing agent that results in an overproduction of methemoglobin at the expense of hemoglobin.

In plain language, it starves vital organs of oxygen by interfering with your red blood cells. That's why the skin turns blue afterwards - cyanosis.

There is a risk that you wake up screaming covered in your own shit and bloody vomit. SN is a foreign substance that the body will try to expel. It is only peaceful if you lose consciousness before it takes full effect.

If you stay awake past 20 minutes, then you'd experience confusion (losing oxygen to brain), respiratory distress, and arrhythmic episodes. SN is not a magic sleeping powder. Even I make the mistake of calling it painless, but there's simply no guarantee that it will be.

Don't rush into doing anything without research because of what other people say.

Why is everyone saying you wake up screaming. Are these involuntary screams? I'm planning on doing SN in my apartment and I don't want neighbors to hear me and call the police. Am I going to scream?

I was worried about it too, gosh
After waking up from attempt I was terrified that my cat licked the glass and died and that my parents hide his death from me to not make me even more mentally disturbed. He is fine, btw - cops creeped him out and he stayed hidden somewhere.
Wanted to let him go to the garden, before, but took propranolol, forgot and had intense staring contest with SN bottle.
Yeah I'm dumb cock not a person, confirmed
Pls y'all for the love of whatever take good take of your animals safety before ctb and your success might depend on it as well.
Blue man and dead cats- sounds like great novel title, though
Btw I'm not a cat ( I wish I were) but I supposedly screamed after poisoning and have no reason to believe I did not.

What do you mean you screamed after poisoning? Was this involuntary? Did you scream for help? I'm concerned with this because I like I said above, I plan on doing this in my apartment. Am I going to scream? This is freaking me out now.

 

[Willto]

One Reddit there is a post from a nurse, paramedic and someone's uncle who said they witnessed SN deaths and they are absolutely horrific.

Can't find it, do you have an adress?

 

[achromatic]

Why is everyone saying you wake up screaming. Are these involuntary screams? I'm planning on doing SN in my apartment and I don't want neighbors to hear me and call the police. Am I going to scream?

What do you mean you screamed after poisoning? Was this involuntary? Did you scream for help? I'm concerned with this because I like I said above, I plan on doing this in my apartment. Am I going to scream? This is freaking me out now.

I wasn't screaming for help, lol involuntary maybe, was getting too confused from hypoxia, prob
Don't remember it, was only told by mother that I did