Help SN and intervenous thiopental

[marcy2022]

Now that I have SN too and I think I might be able to get the required medications for SN. I was wondering if there are any complications if I take oral SN and intervenous thopental. I might go with one or the other but if possible I'd like to go with both. I know it's probably too much but if there are no complications then I prefer to go with both just in case one doesn't work, other does the job.

For SN so far what I'm thinking is
25g sn mixed in 50-100ml water (preferably 50ml)
Anti-emetics and potentiation meds 40 mins before the SN solution drink
10mg x 3 metocloprmide
8mg x 1 ondansetron
ranitidine 800mg or esomeptizole 80mg or omeprazole 80mg
propranolol 2g or 400mg (not sure about the dosage on this one)

Still having some difficulties regarding how am I going to setup the intervenous cannula but if I can get it done then I'll be doing the following
Thiopental intervenous route
30g mixed with around 300ml 0.9 sodium chloride/normal saline
Possibly add 1-3g phenytoin sodium pills crushed and mixed into the iv solution along with thiopental
Take meto as anti-emetic

Same anti-emetic for SN as in meto should work for thiopental too.
Not sure how the other meds interact with each other.

I'm wondering if anyone know if it's a good idea to do both SN oral and thiopental intervenous along with all the suggested meds? And if any of the medications such as anti-emetics or medications to potentiate SN or thiopental solution may interact with each other negatively?

I know the idea may sound crazy but I just don't want to fail and if doing both increase the chances, I'll do it. I have doubts about the purity of both SN and thiopental and I have no way of testing them.

 

[Sunset Limited]

10 grams of IV thiopental is deadly for everyone, nothing more needs to be added. Never give drugs that are not specifically prepared for IV administration by the IV route. If you think you need phenytoin for its cardiac toxicity, you're wrong. Thiopental will cause circulatory collapse within 2-3 minutes. Mixing methods further reduces your chances of success. You have one of the most ideal drugs for euthanasia. There is no difference between thiopental and N, even thiopental is faster because the hemodynamic effects work faster. I wish I had thiopental instead of propofol.

 

[marcy2022]

10 grams of IV thiopental is deadly for everyone, nothing more needs to be added. Never give drugs that are not specifically prepared for IV administration by the IV route. If you think you need phenytoin for its cardiac toxicity, you're wrong. Thiopental will cause circulatory collapse within 2-3 minutes. Mixing methods further reduces your chances of success. You have one of the most ideal drugs for euthanasia. There is no difference between thiopental and N, even thiopental is faster because the hemodynamic effects work faster. I wish I had thiopental instead of propofol.

Thanks I just have one question, ppeh suggests to use phenytoin sodium along with thiopental both for oral and intervenous administration. According to the ppeh its supposed to potentiate. I understand that its not necessary as thiopental itself should be enough provided dosage is right and the purity as well however if I can access the medication necessary to potentiate, why not? Unless ppeh is wrong about phenytoin sodium cuz you said it further reduces success chance. I'm not saying ppeh is correct on the matter or questioning what you said, I'm just trying to understand. My knowledge on the subject matter is low.
Another question, I've mentioned that I have 30g of thiopental and I think if needed I can get more. I know 10g is the suggested dosage but isn't better to big cuz just incase. To be absolutely honest, the only reason that I'm leaning towards a stronger dosage is because of the previous failure, reason to which is still unknown. My best guess so far is the purity. Which is also why I'm thinking maybe with a stronger dosage it might help regardless of the purity unless there's any reason not to?

 

[Sunset Limited]

Do you have medical use thiopental? If it is, you can be sure about purity. If it is not expired ofc.

 

[marcy2022]

Do you have medical use thiopental? If it is, you can be sure about purity. If it is not expired ofc.

Yes! It says on the label that its for intervenous injection

 

[Sunset Limited]

Yes! It says on the label that its for intervenous injection

You can be sure about purity of medical use form of chemicals if it is not expired.