Method Sleeping in a car can kill you? carbon monoxide poisoning.

[vonvonwantpeace]

Is it true that sleeping in the car while the A/C is on and the Windows are closed can kill you due to carbon monoxide poisoning?

 

[calendulo]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/carbon-monoxide-from-car.20697/

Multiple Deaths Reported After Snow Blocks Car Exhaust Pipes

In two separate incidents, a man, a woman, and a one-year-old child were killed while sitting in running vehicles with snow blocking their exhaust pipes, poisoning them with a flood of carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide is odorless and colorless, undetectable to the human senses. The man...

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Yes, IMHO it is possible. It needs a longer time and a lonely spot, but I think that is feasible.

 

[a.h]

If exhaust pipe is partly blogged by snow etc. or if the car is in garage.
I wrote "partly" because car engine don't work if the pipe is 100% clogged.

There are hundreds of cases like this.

At Least 6 Die of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning After Massive Snowstorm

At least six people have died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the wake of a massive blizzard that pounded the Eastern U.S. The deaths have many fire departments — including some in the D.C. area –reminding residents to clear home and car exhausts.

www.nbcwashington.com

In winter when the car is cold the engine will produce 50000ppm CO (same than generators) in first 5 min when the car is started because the converter don't work at first. If the car is started few times then it creates more CO also.
So that's why it happens so fast and without any symptoms then. The amount of cracks in car where CO leaks inside car affects also.

But I would assume that with warm car it would take longer time if someone was sleeping outside in car. If the exhaust wasn't clogged at all then my guess is that it could just give some headache.

Cars have more power without catalytic converter which is why some people take it off.

 

[sanction]

If exhaust pipe is partly blogged by snow etc. or if the car is in garage.
I wrote "partly" because car engine don't work if the pipe is 100% clogged.

There are hundreds of cases like this.

At Least 6 Die of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning After Massive Snowstorm

At least six people have died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the wake of a massive blizzard that pounded the Eastern U.S. The deaths have many fire departments — including some in the D.C. area –reminding residents to clear home and car exhausts.

www.nbcwashington.com

In winter when the car is cold the engine will produce 50000ppm CO (same than generators) in first 5 min when the car is started because the converter don't work at first. If the car is started few times then it creates more CO also.
So that's why it happens so fast and without any symptoms then. The amount of cracks in car where CO leaks inside car affects also.

But I would assume that with warm car it would take longer time if someone was sleeping outside in car. If the exhaust wasn't clogged at all then my guess is that it could just give some headache.

Cars have more power without catalytic converter which is why some people take it off.

How does a car have more power without catalytic converter? Just so I know what to say if I were to get it removed at a shop. So it won't raise suspicions

 

[a.h]

I try to find links for you. In Mexico it's legal to remove them. But in most other countries it's illegal so the shops will most likely not do it. Converters were made for environmental reasons. People use less portable generators so there's no converters to those yet.

How does a car have more power without catalytic converter? Just so I know what to say if I were to get it removed at a shop. So it won't raise suspicions

 

[calendulo]

If exhaust pipe is partly blogged by snow etc. or if the car is in garage.
I wrote "partly" because car engine don't work if the pipe is 100% clogged.

There are hundreds of cases like this.

At Least 6 Die of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning After Massive Snowstorm

At least six people have died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the wake of a massive blizzard that pounded the Eastern U.S. The deaths have many fire departments — including some in the D.C. area –reminding residents to clear home and car exhausts.

www.nbcwashington.com

In winter when the car is cold the engine will produce 50000ppm CO (same than generators) in first 5 min when the car is started because the converter don't work at first. If the car is started few times then it creates more CO also.
So that's why it happens so fast and without any symptoms then. The amount of cracks in car where CO leaks inside car affects also.

But I would assume that with warm car it would take longer time if someone was sleeping outside in car. If the exhaust wasn't clogged at all then my guess is that it could just give some headache.

Cars have more power without catalytic converter which is why some people take it off.

I did not knew that exhaust pipe does not working when it is totally blogged. Zero knowledge about car mechanics
I guess that exhaust pipe in those cases would be partly blogged because news tells they were dead.

 

[a.h]

I wrote "partly" because car engine don't work if the pipe is 100% clogged.

There are hundreds of cases like this.

At Least 6 Die of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning After Massive Snowstorm

At least six people have died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the wake of a massive blizzard that pounded the Eastern U.S. The deaths have many fire departments — including some in the D.C. area –reminding residents to clear home and car exhausts.

www.nbcwashington.com

In winter when the car is cold the engine will produce 50000ppm CO (same than generators) in first 5 min when the car is started because the converter don't work at first. If the car is started few times then it creates more CO also.
So that's why it happens so fast and without any symptoms then. The amount of cracks in car where CO leaks inside car affects also.

But I would assume that with warm car it would take longer time if someone was sleeping outside in car. If the exhaust wasn't clogged at all then my guess is that it could just give some headache.

Cars have more power without catalytic converter which is why some people take it off.

What Are the Benefits of Removing the Catalytic Converters From Cars?

Catalytic converters, which are responsible for igniting and burning unburned engine exhaust gases, became standard automotive equipment on all cars beginning with model year 1975. Although catalytic converters help to make engine exhaust gases cleaner, they are not without their minuses. What...

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I'm no expert either. I read it from site where people were adviced by professionals of cars and car troubles.
I did not knew that exhaust pipe does not working when it is totally blogged. Zero knowledge about car mechanics
I guess that exhaust pipe in those cases would be partly blogged because news tells they were dead.

 

[Stan]

you have to buy a really old car without the catalytic converter for this to work. Anything modern wont do the trick sadly

 

[Stan]

This friend had an old car (80 or 90).
What is a catalytic converter ? Why a catalytic can be a matter ?

It reduces harmful emissions into the environment, such as CO and other unhealthy gases

 

[merem]

Can we remove catalytic?

 

[a.h]

A friend of mine did not succeed with this method. It was in Europe in winter in a small garage. She connected the vent pot with a hose. She just has very beautiful headaches.

People who

Can we remove catalytic?

Can we remove catalytic?

There are guides in YouTube to those who are good with cars. People remove them to get more power to the car. But it can be very tricky.

You should check whether it's legal to remove it where you live. I read that fo example in Mexico one can get it removed in auto shops.

 

[SelfHatingAspie]

Is it true that sleeping in the car while the A/C is on and the Windows are closed can kill you due to carbon monoxide poisoning?

I've never heard that one before. Although it could under very specific circumstances. Think along the lines of the A/C set to fresh air mode, with the "fresh" air entering the cabin via an air intake located near an exhaust leak located somewhere between the engine and the catalytic converter.

Back in the day, people just used to attach a hose to the tailpipe. Thanks to the aforementioned catalytic converters on most cars these days, it's much more difficult to get enough CO into the car using this method (again, unless you have the time and mechanical skill to make a hole in your car's exhaust before it gets to the cat, or just remove the cat and attach the hose to the engine side of the exhaust).

That said, if you have an old car where the check engine light is constantly on, there's a strong possibility that your car's cat has stopped working ... but there's also a possibility that it still kinda works, which means there might not be enough CO to do the job.

If you can stand the noise, a generator or even a lawnmower engine with a reasonably sized fuel tank may be more effective.

 

[a.h]

There is not yet catalytic converters in gas operating electricity generators (not in any gas operating small machinery like leaf blowers etc. but they have less CO emissions) so they still has 50 000ppm (5%) CO in it's exhaust air. I read that in few years they start to put converters to portable generators in American factories for safety issues.
Peacefull pill handbook advices for euthanasia 10 000ppm CO which will knock one out after 1-2 breaths and death will come in 1-3 min.

People have accidentally died even when plugging/unplugging it because often the plugging and power buttons are in same side where the exhaust air comes out ( it comes from both sides).

There is not yet catalytic converters in gas operating electricity generators (not in any gas operating small machinery like leaf blowers etc. but they have less CO emissions) so they still has 50 000ppm (5%) CO in it's exhaust air. I read that in few years they start to put converters to portable generators in American factories for safety issues.
Peacefull pill handbook advices for euthanasia 10 000ppm CO which will knock one out after 1-2 breaths and death will come in 1-3 min.

People have accidentally died even when plugging/unplugging it because often the plugging and power buttons are in same side where the exhaust air comes out ( it comes from both sides).

There is not yet catalytic converters in gas operating electricity generators (not in any gas operating small machinery like leaf blowers etc. but they have less CO emissions) so they still has 50 000ppm (5%) CO in it's exhaust air. I read that in few years they start to put converters to portable generators in American factories for safety issues.
Peacefull pill handbook advices for euthanasia 10 000ppm CO which will knock one out after 1-2 breaths and death will come in 1-3 min.

People have accidentally died even when plugging/unplugging it because often the plugging and power buttons are in same side where the exhaust air comes out ( it comes from both sides).

USA always comes first with safety restrictions. ;) They still sell 100% helium in Europe too.

 

[dmsdnd18]

Living in new york i remember reading about accidental deaths from people warming up their car and not clearing the snow from the exhaust pipe. I do no know much about cars but have always been curious how efficient this is

 

[a.h]

I read that cars create 70000ppm in first 5 min when you start a cold car. There are many accidents like that where exhaust pipe is covered in snow completely (snow melts inside it) every year. People have died inside cold car from CO (that was put on to warm up) in many occasions while one family member has been cleaning the car from snow. So it seems the levels have gone high fast.

Good thing about that would be that it would be seen as accident.

I tested if new cars had leaks under them with blogging half of the pipe in warm car and it became 200ppm CO inside the car. Warm, new cars with CAT's create hardly any CO normally.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

I'm guessing something like this isn't as possible with something like a 2023 Honda Civic?