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Something just crossed my mind. I once used to live near a slaughter house. Then every day around 4-5 am, we'd hear these bulls/cows, pigs and goats screaming and the thuds as they shot them to death....., And they were/and still do kill them in thousands in a day....., And everyone pretends it doesn't happen! ...., Just a thought I remembered. My wife used to get so sad hearing those animals crying.
I'm not making this up.
She even stopped eating meat.
 
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ya its really weird how people assign worth to certain animals, like where i live, we have an issue with too many cats in the neighborhood throwing off the ecosystem because they kill all the birds. But yet, my neighbors think it's fine to kill the raccoons in the forest when they aren't doing anything wrong. Crazy double standards, and if you Google it, raccoons are smarter then cats, so why is it ok to murder them when they aren't hurting anyone? I don't get it... But ya what you said sounds difficult, i've never been near a slaughterhouse but those places look stinky and unsanitary. There's humane ways they could kill the animals but they often choose not too because i think people who work at those places don't really care. Maybe they aren't paid much, idk. But I just hate how it's literally totally normal for people to kill the animals that i like (birds and raccoons) but yet it's illegal to kill the cats. Make it make sense :/ I can't even buy the bird bath I wanted to buy because I remembered the cats here would just kill the birds anyways. I hate where i live because there's so many bugs, so i thought maybe bringing more birds in the area would help get rid of the bugs. But nope, because there's too many cats. So i'd just be feeding the cats and still getting bug bites. It's frustrating!
 
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ya its really weird how people assign worth to certain animals, like where i live, we have an issue with too many cats in the neighborhood throwing off the ecosystem because they kill all the birds. But yet, my neighbors think it's fine to kill the raccoons in the forest when they aren't doing anything wrong. Crazy double standards, and if you Google it, raccoons are smarter then cats, so why is it ok to murder them when they aren't hurting anyone? I don't get it... But ya what you said sounds difficult, i've never been near a slaughterhouse but those places look stinky and unsanitary. There's humane ways they could kill the animals but they often choose not too because i think people who work at those places don't really care. Maybe they aren't paid much, idk. But I just hate how it's literally totally normal for people to kill the animals that i like (birds and raccoons) but yet it's illegal to kill the cats. Make it make sense :/ I can't even buy the bird bath I wanted to buy because I remembered the cats here would just kill the birds anyways. I hate where i live because there's so many bugs, so i thought maybe bringing more birds in the area would help get rid of the bugs. But nope, because there's too many cats. So i'd just be feeding the cats and still getting bug bites. It's frustrating!
Sure. It's a very frustrating business of dealing with cats and bugs. I'm sure you have thousands of cats and bugs and trying to balance them; just like they have thousands of beef/cow, goats and pigs they Slaughter in a day to feed a city of 4 million people. Just like your cat and bug problem, they'd bring like 200-300 truckloads of beef/cows, goats and pigs. Then the murders start around 3am...., My friend, my wife never ate meat, even today and we divotced. THE EVIL MEN DO
 
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personally i don't eat meat either, i dont get why we get to pick and choose what life has value and which don't.. but i don't understand a lot of things about this place lol
 
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personally i don't eat meat either, i dont get why we get to pick and choose what life has value and which don't.. but i don't understand a lot of things about this place lol
I like meat. Beef ribs..., This place- you mean this site? It's cool and cool. You say you are killing yourself now- they understand. You open up- they don't judge...., or ban you. That's all.
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I like meat. Beef ribs..., This place- you mean this site? It's cool and cool. You say you are killing yourself now- they understand. You open up- they don't judge...., or ban you. That's all.
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Why give money to people who mass breed, exploit, and torture animals for their own temporary and selfish desires? Why eat the remains of said tortured and exploited animals when you could reduce the suffering you cause by going vegan instead?
 
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Something just crossed my mind. I once used to live near a slaughter house. Then every day around 4-5 am, we'd hear these bulls/cows, pigs and goats screaming and the thuds as they shot them to death....., And they were/and still do kill them in thousands in a day....., And everyone pretends it doesn't happen! ...., Just a thought I remembered. My wife used to get so sad hearing those animals crying.
I'm not making this up.
She even stopped eating meat.
That's a big part of the reason I;m veggie and have been for decades. If more people thought about what is required to turn a living creature into a piece of meat on their plate, they would be veggie too.
 
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Friendly reminder that dairy cows and egg laying hens also get slaughtered. Veganism is the kindest option
 
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The anhedonic one

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I once worked for a construction company and one of the clients was a slaughterhouse.
Working on that particular job was a nightmare.
We had to build an extension right next to the killing room.
I ended up having to wear earbuds and play loud music all day to cut out the noise of animals crying.
The animals KNEW what was soon going to happen to them.
I still get tearful just thinking of that dreadful place.
I've been vegan for a long time now. The thought of eating meat makes me feel ill.
 
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Forever Sleep

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That must have been really distressing. Yeah- I'd say- if you want to stop eating meat and you want to feel even more disgusted with the human race- watch 'The Final Race' on YouTube. It looks inside a horse abatoir and all the cruelty that went on. That was enough to finally turn me vegetarian.

Not that it always happens but just using your common sense dictates that cheap meat is produced inhumanely. We just don't like to think about it and for the most part- we don't. Our dead animal remains come dyed and wrapped in plastic so we don't need to REALLY think where it came from and how. That said- I can't really preach because I'm not vegan and I've only been vegetarian a few years. God knows how many animals I've indirectly killed. Pretty depressing really.
 
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That must have been really distressing. Yeah- I'd say- if you want to stop eating meat and you want to feel even more disgusted with the human race- watch 'The Final Race' on YouTube. It looks inside a horse abatoir and all the cruelty that went on. That was enough to finally turn me vegetarian.

Not that it always happens but just using your common sense dictates that cheap meat is produced inhumanely. We just don't like to think about it and for the most part- we don't. Our dead animal remains come dyed and wrapped in plastic so we don't need to REALLY think where it came from and how. That said- I can't really preach because I'm not vegan and I've only been vegetarian a few years. God knows how many animals I've indirectly killed. Pretty depressing really.
I honestly couldn't even think of watching " The final race ".
I'm way too much of a highly sensitive person for that.
But I should imagine that it is very upsetting to watch.
 
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I honestly couldn't even think of watching " The final race ".
I'm way too much of a highly sensitive person for that.
But I should imagine that it is very upsetting to watch.
Yeah- it really is but in a way I'm glad I watched it. It gave me the push I needed. I wanted to be vegetarian for years. There's that other one that I don't think I could stomach but I can't remember the name. It shows dolphins being slaughtered by fisherman. Even the trailer was sickening. Sometimes I think it's good to be aware but I agree- it can be so disturbing, you don't really know what to do with yourself.
 
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Agreed on all points. I've been vegetarian for about 23 years but still don't feel right about being on this planet at all. Have to normally keep it hidden because apparently I'm a weirdo for not being cool with cruelty on an unimaginable scale. Or normies use the argument, "well you are cruel to potatoes by eating them" or some crap. Great.
 
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It truly is horrific the amount of suffering that exists here, it's impossible to comprehend and it's undeniable that this reality is so hellish, there's far too much senseless cruelty and unnecessary torment in this world, I wish life never existed at all in the first place as it would had prevented all this. To me it would be ideal if this disgusting world peacefully disappeared into nothingness so that nothing would have to suffer so unnecessarily ever again.
 
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I like meat. Beef ribs..., This place- you mean this site? It's cool and cool. You say you are killing yourself now- they understand. You open up- they don't judge...., or ban you. That's all.
Not bad
personally i don't eat meat bc i'm just disgusted by meat and the meat industry, not so much bc i care about pigs.. but even with that being said pigs can have an iq as high as a human toddler but we don't treat them like such.. i think that's a bit strange whether you eat meat or not. and yeah this site can definitely be a lil goofy but we're both here so it can't be terrible lol
 
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May 6, 2023
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I used to work on a cow farm and it made me a vegetarian (always trying to be fully vegan). I didn't eat meat since 2016 and I will never ever go back to it. Animal cruelty is something I cannot tolerate in any shape or form. I can't even stand people who doesn't respect ALL the animals equally.
And no, there's not too much animals in this planet, there's only TOO MUCH people. We are the only problem here. Sick, twisted humans should be slaughtered and not animals 🤷
 
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It must be awful. Ive been vegan most of my life and.so glad i chose this lifestyle. Humankind is.just cruel. I could never intentionally harm another life. Nature is being destroyed by humankind anyhows, and we are now paying the price as eco systems fail; the whole human structure collapse too.
 
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i want to be vegan but i think meat taste too good:( can someone help convincing me to be fully vegan?
 
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egg laying hens also get slaughtered
Yes and baby chicks are killed in what equate to industrial blenders in preposterous numbers. That's an important detail as well. The further you look into the industry, the worse it seems to get.
 
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I didn't turn vegan until 2021... I wish I stopped sooner but ignorance and denial is powerful. Animal agriculture is good at hiding the evidence and separating the consumer from the horrors of the industry.

i want to be vegan but i think meat taste too good:( can someone help convincing me to be fully vegan?
Try watching the documentary "Dominion" on YouTube. A fair warning: it was very graphic and a bit traumatizing for me. But it gave me the push I needed to commit to being vegan (especially seeing what happens in the dairy/egg industries).
Yeah- it really is but in a way I'm glad I watched it. It gave me the push I needed. I wanted to be vegetarian for years. There's that other one that I don't think I could stomach but I can't remember the name. It shows dolphins being slaughtered by fisherman. Even the trailer was sickening. Sometimes I think it's good to be aware but I agree- it can be so disturbing, you don't really know what to do with yourself.
I believe that was "Seaspiracy."
 
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Not that it always happens but just using your common sense dictates that cheap meat is produced inhumanely.
It seems damn near impossible to keep up with demand around the world without opting for the sloppy and easy ways of getting the animals into a supermarket. I do think that small family farms probably don't give the animals there as much of a hellish life (probably not a much better death though) but realistically just about all of the meat comes from factory farms, at least in the countries whose statistics I'm familiar with. I guess it makes sense when you think about it. It's not like every animal can get a bottle of Nembutal and die alongside their family lol. It's clear as day that it's gonna end up ugly and painful to meet the desires of a large human population.
 
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It seems damn near impossible to keep up with demand around the world without opting for the sloppy and easy ways of getting the animals into a supermarket. I do think that small family farms probably don't give the animals there as much of a hellish life (probably not a much better death though) but realistically just about all of the meat comes from factory farms, at least in the countries whose statistics I'm familiar with. I guess it makes sense when you think about it. It's not like every animal can get a bottle of Nembutal and die alongside their family lol. It's clear as day that it's gonna end up ugly and painful to meet the desires of a large human population.

Yeah- I think for ages- I was just like- oh but they must have standards to adhere to in terms of welfare. Especially big supermarkets- surely there would be scandals otherwise. I decided to just Google my local supermarket plus animal cruelty and yeah- up it all comes. Pigs barely able to turn round and resorting to cannibalism. I was horrified to learn that 'free range' doesn't necessarily mean bounding around in lush pastures. There were these massive hangers filled with chickens. ☹️

Yeah- I would have thought that smaller farms would be slightly better. Still- I watched a documentary recently specifically about the UK trying to broker trade deals with the USA and that was pretty disturbing. Not that I'm trying to offend any USA members. I expect all food production is heading in this direction. But yeah- they're basically saying- if UK farmers still have to adhere to strict guidelines when the USA imports don't- they simply won't be able to compete:


I didn't turn vegan until 2021... I wish I stopped sooner but ignorance and denial is powerful. Animal agriculture is good at hiding the evidence and separating the consumer from the horrors of the industry.


Try watching the documentary "Dominion" on YouTube. A fair warning: it was very graphic and a bit traumatizing for me. But it gave me the push I needed to commit to being vegan (especially seeing what happens in the dairy/egg industries).

I believe that was "Seaspiracy."

Thanks but I feel like it was an older film... 🤔. I don't know- I can't seem to find anything today! It was one of those where I thought- I probably SHOULD watch this but I don't think I can... I don't think I could watch 'Seaspiracy' either. I love the ocean. I actually gave up eating fish for a long time as a child- before I stopped eating meat.
 
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well, being breeded by humans and then get slaughtered as quick as possible after some time is way better than being left in to the wild to get painfully torn to pieces by predators. animals are going to get killed anyway or they will die from some kind of disease. they will still have to go through that pain so why not to gather some food from them? personally i don't see anything wrong with slaughtering, been eating meat for the whole life. saw the slaughter of a sheep myself, one precise cut at the neck was enough and it died after few seconds. i mean it is painful, but not for that long...
 
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I was vegan for a number of years, started for health reasons, but then you tend to learn about all the other stuff like everyone's mentioned.

Apparently there's also a documentary called "Earthlings" that pushes a lot of people over the edge towards veganism. I could never bring myself to watch it though.

Funny how so many people on here are so compassionate towards other living beings...goes against the notion that we are all just pro-death murderers who don't value life.
 
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Friendly reminder that dairy cows and egg laying hens also get slaughtered. Veganism is the kindest option
Thank you, so true. As soon as I realised this I quit veggie and went vegan.💚🌿
well, being breeded by humans and then get slaughtered as quick as possible after some time is way better than being left in to the wild to get painfully torn to pieces by predators. animals are going to get killed anyway or they will die from some kind of disease. they will still have to go through that pain so why not to gather some food from them? personally i don't see anything wrong with slaughtering, been eating meat for the whole life. saw the slaughter of a sheep myself, one precise cut at the neck was enough and it died after few seconds. i mean it is painful, but not for that long...
It still doesn't justify it. Life is life, sentience is sentience, they feel pain and have fear and don't want to be slaughtered. Hear me out, we slaughter billions of animals at a fraction of their natural livespans, for what?...a 5 minute meal for our taste buds when we can eat something else?

Whether an animal is bred for food or not, it is simply not in the animal's best interest for us to slit their throat and eat them. So this argument, as per all the arguments used for exploiting animals, fails to address things from the victim's perspective. I understand in this case (assuming you are suicidal) it may be hard to understand the victims perspective fully since if I were to ask you "if you were in the animals shoes would you want to be bred and slaughtered?" you may say yes...but most people would say no..they would not want to be slaughtered.

An animal does not care what they are bred for—they just want to live. And it is not our right to dictate a purpose for someone else's life.

If we didn't breed and slaughter billions there wouldn't simply be billions of these animals roaming free. Supply and demand is real, and if the world went vegan (in my dreams) then I assume we would only have a select number of these beautiful animals in sanctuaries-living out their entire lives like they are meant to. Happy and free.
 
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Ya vry know how, awfl species callous species all prtnde no hpn any. See all awfl life this ppl prtnd no thing all lie, awfl life awfl species poor anmal sffr evrd this need stoo
 
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well, being breeded by humans and then get slaughtered as quick as possible after some time is way better than being left in to the wild to get painfully torn to pieces by predators. animals are going to get killed anyway or they will die from some kind of disease. they will still have to go through that pain so why not to gather some food from them? personally i don't see anything wrong with slaughtering, been eating meat for the whole life. saw the slaughter of a sheep myself, one precise cut at the neck was enough and it died after few seconds. i mean it is painful, but not for that long...
That's not true. These animals only exist because we breed them to kill them. Otherwise they'd be much better off as non-existers. I do agree with you however that animals have a really bad deal in nature.
Funny how so many people on here are so compassionate towards other living beings...goes against the notion that we are all just pro-death murderers who don't value life.
I'd like to think that immense suffering can really teach one that suffering is suffering, no matter the creature experiencing it nor what instigates it. Maybe it's not so simple as that but I'd like to think it's made me more compassionate at times, also more resentful and bitter at others lol.
Pigs barely able to turn round and resorting to cannibalism
If they were humans, I think that virtually everyone would see it as something on par with a horror film.
 
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rabid_aspie_yokai

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Thank you, so true. As soon as I realised this I quit veggie and went vegan.💚🌿

It still doesn't justify it. Life is life, sentience is sentience, they feel pain and have fear and don't want to be slaughtered. Hear me out, we slaughter billions of animals at a fraction of their natural livespans, for what?...a 5 minute meal for our taste buds when we can eat something else?

Whether an animal is bred for food or not, it is simply not in the animal's best interest for us to slit their throat and eat them. So this argument, as per all the arguments used for exploiting animals, fails to address things from the victim's perspective. I understand in this case (assuming you are suicidal) it may be hard to understand the victims perspective fully since if I were to ask you "if you were in the animals shoes would you want to be bred and slaughtered?" you may say yes...but most people would say no..they would not want to be slaughtered.

An animal does not care what they are bred for—they just want to live. And it is not our right to dictate a purpose for someone else's life.

If we didn't breed and slaughter billions there wouldn't simply be billions of these animals roaming free. Supply and demand is real, and if the world went vegan (in my dreams) then I assume we would only have a select number of these beautiful animals in sanctuaries-living out their entire lives like they are meant to. Happy and free.
Proud of you for going vegan, even if it's the moral baseline, humans have a hard time when it comes to change. Also great "argument" 100% agree
 
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Something just crossed my mind. I once used to live near a slaughter house. Then every day around 4-5 am, we'd hear these bulls/cows, pigs and goats screaming and the thuds as they shot them to death....., And they were/and still do kill them in thousands in a day....., And everyone pretends it doesn't happen! ...., Just a thought I remembered. My wife used to get so sad hearing those animals crying.
I'm not making this up.
She even stopped eating meat.
I'm not a vegan because i have no self control but I hate how the entire collective internet pretends vegans are all ridiculous or whatever. It's not just the right, it's everyone. If we lived in hunter gathered times I would get it, if you hunt your food that is much more humane, but there is the literal systematic slaughter of living things and anyone who is against it is portrayed as a pussy?
 
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Just reading the text makes me sad. an unfair world :'(
 

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