Simulation Theory

[LilAddy]

I have derealization a lot and when I found out about this theory I got very interested in it.

I wanted to know what others think about this.

 

[Kyrok]

If everything is a simulation, what is generating it? If what is generating it is also a simulation, then what is the difference between the real and the simulated?

Personally, I don't think there is a way the world is independent of consciousness other than it being such that for consciousness it is such as it is for that consciousness.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

The more I researched it I found it to more and more likely that it´s the truth, I am very into this theory too and I can send you some links for several videos discussing this.

 

[Kyrok]

The more I researched it I found it to more and more likely that it´s the truth, I am very into this theory too and I can send you some links for several videos discussing this.

But all the evidence + all your reasoning would also be simulated. Why give either any credence?

 

[LilAddy]

The more I researched it I found it to more and more likely that it´s the truth, I am very into this theory too and I can send you some links for several videos discussing this.

What kind of videos did you watch? I would love to watch more of them.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

But all the evidence + all your reasoning would also be simulated. Why give either any credence?

If we are simulated we might be able to improvise, I am also looking into several simulation theories and not just the one that Nick Bostrom thought of.
Our simulation could also be like a look through history where everyone who ever lived is relieving their lives for people thousands of years in the future to figure our what out time was like this is just something I have thinking of their are several other theories, the NBC news even made an article a few days ago I can link it here.
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/scienc...CAmhERSQpfdjeZ26F1OpBmelXdqcBsda7yG1dDaeLNoyQ

Sorry I have a lot of say about all this because I have been trying to get the motivation to make a thread like this again for a few weeks I actually have an older thread about the simulation theory that I am sure you can find if you search for it.

What kind of videos did you watch? I would love to watch more of them.

I am sure you have already seen this one.




This one above provides the most "proof" that almost makes this theory a hypothesis they explain in great detail about physics.

This is the ones I have downloaded from YouTube I hope you will enjoy them.

 

[Xaphous]

I got interested in this too, especially when science tells us that solid objects are atoms and that is like 99.999% empty space so it's basically holographic. Our brain just interprets reality and even solidity, much like is said in the Matrix movie. Many researchers, authors have done a lot of research on it and so the theory holds weight. Elon Musk like says things like it is unlikely we are even in base reality, and that there are many parallel realities. It also could be some deception or truth mixed with lies so people will just believe whatever variation most pushed of what's becoming a more mainstream topic now, but I don't know. CERN and the D-Wave computers are some crazy stuff too, and they are doing some weird ritualistic stuff there. They obviously know a lot more about this, quantum entanglement and so on than they will tell. A detailed CIA FOIA document also mentions the holographic nature of reality and time travel. Whether that backs it up or discredits the theory is for anyone to decide.

 

[Kyrok]

Personally, I think entanglement as a quantum phenomenon is much more interesting vs treating it as a consequence of limited processing.

IMO, entanglement reflects the numerical identity of the particles. Look for example at Beta Barium Borate crystals in Quantum Eraser experiments. What if the two down-converted photons are the same particle, bi-located?

 

[LilAddy]

This hella crazy to think about this like mind blown

 

[RM5998]

As @Kyrok said, there is no detectable difference between the real and the simulated. If we argue along those lines, we essentially end up with the 'brain in a vat' scenario, with no real way of determining which side we are on.

TBH, I am more interested in how the discussion went to quantum entanglement and the CIA. I don't understand how that part relates to the central topic.

 

[Kyrok]

As @Kyrok said, there is no detectable difference between the real and the simulated. If we argue along those lines, we essentially end up with the 'brain in a vat' scenario, with no real way of determining which side we are on.

TBH, I am more interested in how the discussion went to quantum entanglement and the CIA. I don't understand how that part relates to the central topic.

One of the videos above suggests quantum phenomena explained by simulation theory.

 

[RM5998]

One of the videos above suggests quantum phenomena explained by simulation theory.

The one that deals with single particle diffraction experiments? Yeah, that didn't make much sense.

If you wanted to increase immersion, wouldn't you try to have simpler theories and not complex ones to explain reality? What rendering advantage do you get from using quantum mechanics as your physics base that isn't neutralized by the complexity of QM?

In either case, how does this relate to the CIA? That's the most confusing part.

 

[Life sucks]

Yes life is a simulation. Depending on the meaning of the word "simulation", It will always be a simulation

 

[Nanako]

The one that deals with single particle diffraction experiments? Yeah, that didn't make much sense.

If you wanted to increase immersion, wouldn't you try to have simpler theories and not complex ones to explain reality? What rendering advantage do you get from using quantum mechanics as your physics base that isn't neutralized by the complexity of QM?

In either case, how does this relate to the CIA? That's the most confusing part.

Uh can you tell me which video it is? Sorry I'm lazy.

 

[netrezven]

I can't find any real paper on this. Only statements from unknown sources. Does anyone have an idea what really happens if we perform the double split with delayed choice experiment. We set the system to make the measurements, but we hide results and no observer is going to see them? We don't know the results, but we know that the system is physically measured.
This won't answer are we in simulated reality, but will give two outcomes if we do - 1.if wave function collapses then the simulation is deeper and based on creating one objective reality for multiple subjects, 2-if wave function stays alive - the simulation is saving resources and is based into creating subjective reality.

 

[netrezven]

Did you knew that purple exists only in our brains - there is no specific wavelength of light for it. Our brains create it from combinations of different wavelengths.

 

[Alan James]

"What may have started as a science fiction speculation - that perhaps the universe as we know it is a computer simulation - has become a serious line of theoretical and experimental investigation among physicists, astrophysicists, and philosophers."

Are We Living in a Computer Simulation? - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-we-living-in-a-computer-simulation/


Our world could simply be a simulation, says Bank of America - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3788735/There-50-chance-living-Matrix-world-simply-SIMULATION-says-Bank-America.html

 

[Xaphous]

The one that deals with single particle diffraction experiments? Yeah, that didn't make much sense.

If you wanted to increase immersion, wouldn't you try to have simpler theories and not complex ones to explain reality? What rendering advantage do you get from using quantum mechanics as your physics base that isn't neutralized by the complexity of QM?

In either case, how does this relate to the CIA? That's the most confusing part.

I mentioned CIA only because there is a now-declassified document that talks In depth about the nature of reality being holographic, although it was written and classified in the 1980s. You will find a lot about in on YouTube which is also where I heard about it.

 

[EddieAllenPoe]

I remember going through a phase where I obsessed/wondered about everything being a simulation. I agree with what other's have said... What difference would it make knowing it is simulated? We'd be subjected to the same experience and it would be governed by the same rules. I've yet to have any experience similar to what you might see in the Matrix movies. It's the same old world.

One thing that drives me nuts is I have frequently experienced what you might call synchronicities. It feels like life is connected in ways that are hard for me to explain or verbalize, but thanks to the internet I know I'm not alone in my experiences.

I'm making this experience up to give an example, but this is how a "synchronicity" would look like. I can be sitting here and reading about some obscure topic. Let's say I'm reading about "Carl Jung". The next thing I know I'll turn on the TV and the news anchor will JUST happen to be talking about "Carl Jung". It's so random and weird. It doesn't have any real meaning but the two events seem to be clearly related.

I've seen something exactly like this happen enough times that it used to drive me insane. I wanted to know WHY it was happening. It's like there is some kind of invisible hyperlink tying unrelated events together in ways that seem improbable. It's hard to prove what I'm saying is real, but it happens to me all the time. I've spent hours upon hours reading about Law of Attraction or watching videos of other people talking about their synchronicity experiences. I'm none the wiser. I know I'm not the only one that has had this sort of experience though. Once you become aware of it you'll see it almost daily. It's weird.

 

[Memento Mori]

am not going into this since i get panic attacks when thinking too much about how possible this shit is. i dont want to live in a fuckin simulation
ill break out and kill them all

 

[Superfluous]

Not the first time this has been discussed on this forum. For those interested, an old post:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/simulation-theory.2531/