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mondoCruel

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Jul 13, 2021
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I know it's the "kids in africa" argument, but what is your opinion?

I do sometimes feel kinda guilty rationalizing how "good" I have it compared to others. But at the same time, I don't give a shit about people having it "better" than me and whether they might CBT or not
 
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Life_and_Death

Life_and_Death

Do what's best for you 🕯️ I'm............
Jul 1, 2020
7,031
shinedown what a shame
There's a hard life
For every silver spoon
There's a touch of gray
For every shade of blue
That's the way that I see life
If there was nothing wrong
Then there'd be nothing right
 
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Ligottian

Paragon
Dec 19, 2021
965
I feel sorry for the retail clerks I see every time I shop. There but for fortune would gone I.. But I know those better off than me and others don't give a rat's ass about us. The whole arrangement will never change.
 
Dead beat dad

Dead beat dad

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Mar 5, 2019
1,029
I know it's the "kids in africa" argument, but what is your opinion?

I do sometimes feel kinda guilty rationalizing how "good" I have it compared to others. But at the same time, I don't give a shit about people having it "better" than me and whether they might CBT or not
Not everyone would define good in the same way; one man's nightmare may be another man's dream.
This topic may go deeper than the initial stay but there are studies that say suicide rates are less in developing countries than in the 'first world.'
What is it they say about the things we own end up owning us? Maybe this include our demon.

Love and respect brother.

DBD
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,427
Of course many others will have it worse but my life will always be horrible and the fact that others suffer more does not take away any of that. I am not experiencing their lives but instead I am experiencing mine and I hate it. Life could never be good at all to me and things could easily get worse for anyone.

In my opinion, no one should feel guilty for not 'appreciating' how their life is not as bad as many others. None of us asked to exist in the first place and suicide is a human right after all. If someone decides to leave then that is their choice and they do not need to justify their reasons for leaving. All life is meaningless after all, no matter how 'good' or 'bad' our lives seem to be, we will all be equal when we no longer exist.
 
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toforigivelife

Arcanist
Jul 5, 2021
493
I used to do that to myself at every turn, I'm trying to get out of that habit but it's a hard habit to break.

I've learned that it doesn't do you or anyone else any good to try and compare your life to other's lives.

This lesson came to me over the past couple of years. My state of mind has been that if I won millions in the lottery or if a rich, famous celebrity who I found sexy and attractive came along and swept me off to their mansion and luxurious lifestyle it honestly wouldn't have made a difference. I wouldn't be able to receive the love or the joy.

I learned that no matter how "good" you have it, when you're sick you're sick.

They say that if you don't have your health you have nothing. I now know firsthand what that means.

I see people who are worse off than me and I wonder what makes them want to continue to live while I'm making plans to die. Do they have a fear of death that I don't have?

Or maybe in some ways they're better off than me. Maybe they have a connection to life that I don't have. Maybe they are able to connect with others and have two-way connection with them, maybe they have people who love and care for them and who they love and care for, maybe they have a sense of family and connection.

I don't know.

I'm not trying to encourage you to CTB. I hope that you can find love, health and healing. But I also respect that it is up to you to decide your quality of life and that the decision of whether or not to continue this life is ultimately up to you.

If you're in a state where you're coming on a site like Sanctioned Suicide then you're in the position of, "If you're sick, you're sick". Not sick in a negative, creepy way but in a way where your mental health and level of pain is so great that you have a desire to end your life.

Don't add an extra layer of torment and misery to what you're already dealing with by laying bogus guilt trips on yourself.

You have a legitimate condition, a legitimate problem.

I hope that not comparing yourself to others will help clear your mind so that you make a decision that is truly right for you. Whatever that decision may be.

Wishing you well.
 
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Seeking_Peace

Arcanist
May 18, 2022
476
If the Africa argument doesn't fix my suffering then I don't care. Parents love to use that line.
 
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betternever2havbeen

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Jun 19, 2022
1,030
If kids in Africa is a valid argument then surely you could compare yourself to someone who has a better life and that'd be just as valid? All I know is I was doing better in 1986 before I was born and I never asked for any life. There will always be plenty of suffering to go round in any life.
 
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Deformationalplagio

Born deformed
Dec 28, 2019
378
I dont know man. There is always somewhere in the world someone doing worse then you or better. Its more like "where can we draw the line" like most already know i have a serious facial deformity and hell im pretty sure some of those african kids really do have it better then me, in fact most people prob do, but that doesnt neceserally says people cant feel very bad and their feelings are invalid. So you feeling that way is valid and you shouldnt feel bad for feeling that way.
 
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Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

Enlightened
Apr 5, 2020
1,876
I can't say whether or not I should care, but I certainly do care.
 
Zegers

Zegers

Enlightened
Dec 15, 2021
1,758
I think everyone has their own circumstances and what may seem like a stupid problem for one person may be a big problem for another and well, money isn't everything, idk this place is complicated.
 
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betternever2havbeen

Enlightened
Jun 19, 2022
1,030
Plus you can also feel bad that others are suffering and that can affect you if you are highly empathic. Meanwhile everyone else says "at least I'm not that poor bugger in XYZ country" and expects you to do the same.
 
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