Discussion Should there be a petition to stop the work of a peadophile to be displayed by BBC?

[Kit1]

BBC reinstalls sculpture by paedophile Eric Gill with new protective screen

Broadcaster says it does not condone ‘abusive behaviour’ of its creator after repairs to statue of Ariel and Prospero

www.theguardian.com

 

[rs929]

This is interesting. I think that you should separate the piece of art from the author. You can be a son of a bitch as a person, but a good artist. Just my two cents.

 

[Droso]

Why is this in the suicide subforum? This is so off topic. This would be better in politics & philosophy.

 

[Kit1]

I am on this forum because I have CPTSD with suicidal Ideation (also autistic) - all due to my crappy childhood where I was sexually abused. There are so many of us on this forum due to this. This is very relevant to us.

 

[Droso]

I am on this forum because I have CPTSD with suicidal Ideation (also autistic) - all due to my crappy childhood where I was sexually abused. There are so many of us on this forum due to this. This is very relevant to us.

Sure. But in the post you never addressed that. You just made a poll about if a petition should be made. If you brought this up along with your struggles of suicidal ideation, yeah it would belong. But you didn't. The way it's framed is a political issue, not a suicidal one.

 

[Kit1]

True. I have to be honest - I was/still am feeling like crap when I read about it a few hours ago. I started throwing up, took an overdose (I am used to this and will get over it), am still throwing up and just came online and posted this. I am sorry if I have upset you or anyone else.

 

[SVEN]

If the BBC wasn't funded by public money and effectively unanswerable to the public this question wouldn't even have arisen. I doubt the chatterers who are employed there (I can't bring myself to say "work") would have paid out their own pockets to have this statue repaired.

 

[HouseofMortok]

This is interesting. I think that you should separate the piece of art from the author. You can be a son of a bitch as a person, but a good artist. Just my two cents.

I mean, Hitler was quite the artist wasn't he? I wouldn't strive toward hanging his paintings on my wall let alone in public. Nor should we strive to having statues on public display created by just another form of monster.

Quite relevant and important to not seperate the art from the artist. By liking the art, you don't have to like the artist, but you are still supporting the artist by supporting and standing by their work. Fuck them, plenty of art out there to appreciate from non vile monsters.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

"The BBC in no way condones Gill's abusive behaviour, but it draws a line across the actions of Gill so everyone can instead focus on pretty rocks while we glorify a monster."

Oh, but there's a QR next to the definitely not ominous protective barrier paid with taxpayer money, never mind!

 

[HouseofMortok]

"The BBC in no way condones Gill's abusive behaviour, but it draws a line across the actions of Gill so everyone can instead focus on pretty rocks while glorify a monster."

Oh, but there's a QR next to the definitely not ominous protective barrier paid with taxpayer dollars, never mind!

What I find odd (now my ignorance doesn't yet know the story of Ariel and Prospero) but the line about "symbolism of broadcasting"

How?! How is a carving of a clothed adult male, dry humping a naked child any way a symbolism of broadcasting other than its perverse nature to rot our brains?.. Seems more like peadophilia symbolism into getting to the nations children through the Television sets. Suspicions confirmed when the artist has a history of sexual abuse against his daughters AND the RELUCTANCE from the BBC to distance themselves from it.

Like, let it go and reinvent the institution away from these things to a modern era. Place your bets now, 2025 exposes another wrong'n in the BBC.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

What I find odd (now my ignorance doesn't yet know the story of Ariel and Prospero) but the line about "symbolism of broadcasting"

How?! How is a carving of a clothed adult male, dry humping a naked child any way a symbolism of broadcasting other than its perverse nature to rot our brains?.. Seems more like peadophilia symbolism into getting to the nations children through the Television sets. Suspicions confirmed when the artist has a history of sexual abuse against his daughters AND the RELUCTANCE from the BBC to distance themselves from it.

Like, let it go and reinvent the institution away from these things to a modern era. Place your bets now, 2025 exposes another wrong'n in the BBC.

No worries, it's not a matter of ignorance, some things don't require an extensive and academic textual analysis because they're quite simple in their message: putting the work and name of a pedophile on a pedestal is a symbol of exactly that, putting a pedophile on a pedestal. The argument of so-called defenders of memory and art just falls to the ground when you tell them, okay, keep the statue but place it outside a place of prominence. The statue could've been kept in a museum for those who're interested in art and history to see, to experience with calm and nuance, but no: the BBC chose to put the work of a pedophile in a public place with public funds.

They'll tell you it's about erasure, but nobody is talking about erasing history, quite the opposite: it's because we respect history that we think certain figures should no longer be in a pedestal.

 

[Winterreise]

Pathetic conservative hysteria. Even worse than their hotline
Drama queen don't even begin to describe this mass detriment in brain functions
Drama queen don't even begin to describe this mass detriment in brain functions

 

[Linda]

If his work has any artistic merit, I have no problem with them displaying it. If it doesn't, they shouldn't.
Surely we are all adult enough to be able to separate what a person produces from other aspects of that person's life.