Death
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| Official | "SN Poisoning"
- Easily detectable, nothing more to it.
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| How does it work exactly? |
- Blood cells do not carry oxygen, though lungs continue to supply it, and brain is still working.
- Cells in body turn to anaerobic metabolism for a while and eventually die , after couple of hours .
- SN also causes blood cell destruction, plus circulatory disorder (blood cannot flow to tissue).
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| What's the medical state? | The body can be described as suffering:
- hemolytic anemia, "blood failure", or
- anemic hypoxia, "blood fails to deliver oxygen".
Tissue slowly dies, but not due to lack of oxygen in cells (like cyanide) or lungs (like suffocation), rather due to 'bad blood' . It shares similarities with CO2 poisoning . |
| Is it like suffocation? | No.
- Suffocation (hypoxic hypoxia) is a stressful experience, involving reflexes, pain, and rapid damage within minutes.
- SN does not deprive oxygen from you body, but to individual cells within your body.
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| Will my brain continue to function? | Yes.
- Brain continues to function, even with 30% oxygen level. SN is a gradual slow process.
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| Will I feel death? | No, if regime followed.
- With low oxygen levels you faint and lose consciousness.
- Brain goes into "sleep mode" – everything keeps working, but you fall asleep.
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| Can it be disguised as accident? | Never .
- Your face turns blue and your blood turns dark -- that's visible .
- It cannot be disguised as hypothermia or suffocation
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| Can I donate organs? | Never.
- Suspicion of either suicide or poisoning forbids that.
- Autopsy and inquest required , cannot harvest organs (even if permitted) .
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| Do you "fall asleep" due to hypoxia or sedatives? | Either or both.
- SN: faint around 13m , unconsciousness around 20m.
- Benzo: taking several can knock out , in 15m-30m
- So either / both
- You may time to be asleep when SN affects
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Recovery
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| SN fatal even in small dosages? | YES. DO NOT TRY OR TASTE IT. |
| Can I recover? | YES – with HOSPITAL CARE. |
| Can I recover on my own? | NO. |
| What happens in recovery/hospital? |
- Methylene Blue is an antidote.
- Minute dosage of it increases oxygen from fatal 20% to healthy 90% within 30-60m.
- Patients regain consciousness within 2-8 hours; dissmissed after 1-3 days; unless kept for psychiatric evaluation.
- Hospitals sometime follow further procedures, but these were not found to be crucial just supportive, may hasten recovery: Oxygen therapy, Ascorbic acid (MetHb elimination), Cimetidine (reduces hematotoxins).
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| Can I be rescued? | YES.
- Usually within 1-2 hours.
- Sometimes up to 3-4h after ingestion.
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| Will I have permanent damage? | NO – You either die or recover
- Plethora of SN poisoning cases with no medical evidence of damage.
- Probably due to mode of action – slow cell/tissue death until total collapse. In the meantime everything is working.
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| If only small amount digested can I recover alone? | NO . This is extremely rare . |
Will I have permanent damage if SN taken without medical intervention?
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- You will not have permanent damage. But you won't survive – scenario very unlikely – without rescue 99% fatal.
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| Why SN does not cause brain damage? |
- Hypoxic brain injury (drastic reduction in oxygen) is much slower than anoxic brain injury (sudden shutoff of oxygen, kills brain cells in 4 minutes).
- Other organs die first . Heart, kidneys, etc collapse first – see research link
- Possible temporary damage to globus pallidus (basal ganglia) – spontanously healed after few days [1]
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| Chances of coma / becoming vegetable? | Currently 0% , as far as we know:
- Out of thousands poisoning cases throughout centuries – there are no such documented cases. [1] [2]
- "The Chinese Case" is not documented , we don't know patient background , and family claims malpractice . The child is not vegetative but brain dead (no chances of waking up). It is not a good case to study . [1]
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Storage
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| Primer | SN acts much like table salt (NaCl).
- Hygroscopic – absorbs water .
- Does not reactwith water but dissolves to ions , suspended between H20 molecules .
- Google "reactions vs ionic solution" .
- Dissolves readily up to 40% (see graph)
- Should not be heated . Combustible .
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| Can I open and close bottle? | YES. Unless you're in a sauna ..
- It does not oxidize with oxygen , only with water (that solution is potent)
- Frequent exposure will damage it, but over time. Occasional won't.
- Clamps are fine
- Normal temperatures are fine . SN is transported in trucks/airplanes neither heated nor cooled .
- SN storage warnings mention only high heat, reagents, pressure, and combustion.
- That includes strong acids / bases / oxidizers . These may cause reaction .
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| Refrigerate? | No.
- SN is not reactive (only to moisture, heat, strong acid/base)
- In industry kept at room temperature for years – simple plastic container
- Refrigerators have moisture – don't overdo [1]
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| Extreme weather for transport/storage problem? | No.
- SN is transported in all climates without any heating/cooling.
- SN is simply not reactive – only to moisture, acid, extreme heat, etc
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Solution (liquid) | |
| Will it go bad quickly? | NO. Only after few hours.
- Strong solutions (40%) are potent and durable . Weaker solutions will slightly react to create nitrates (aquarium) .
- Labs store 40% solution in room temperature, open and close it, so some oxygen is fine.
- Pure 100%, required in delicate biochem tests (DNA), must be prepared freshly ; but 99% is fine for us .
- Labs use purified water and under sterile condition.
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| How long is it potent? | At least several hours, if not more.
- It has nothing to react with – but minute minerals, dirt, etc in drinking water .
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| Should I refrigerate? | No.
- While labs store 40% solution, our water is "dirty", and we lack sterile environment.
- Cooling should not cause SN to change behaviour , but don't .
- See saturation/temperature graph (OP)
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| Should I use heated water? | No.
- SN , like salt , readily dissolves in room temperature water . Stir it .
- Heating will cause SN to change behaviour – don't.
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| | | | Few Hours | | | Few Years | Clumps, temporary exposure to air , are okay | | | | | Few Weeks | Will lose potency slowly, due to humidity (H2O) not oxygen |
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