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Daria98765

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I'm wondering if anxiety and fear are not constant, but are caused by certain triggers, then can some sedative or relaxing drugs like mushrooms, cannabis remove anxiety, fear when you meet a trigger?
Answer based on your experience please.

Simplified example:
Would a person who has experienced traumatic events on the subway be able to stop experiencing fear, anxiety near the subway if they use sedatives/drugs? If so, will he be able in the future not to experience the mentioned emotions without the help of sedatives/narcotics?
 
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catastrophix

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Feb 20, 2023
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I've used Xanax and cannabis seperately, but I'm on a lot of other medication, so take this with a pinch of salt.

Xanax has helped me feel more calm and mellow, but it doesn't really make fear go away. It definitely takes some anxiety away, but there is still some fear— it's kinda foggy and delayed. For example, I have a huge phobia with certain bugs. When I take a Xanax, I'm still fearful of any bugs I come across, but it's almost as if it doesn't completely register in my brain that the bugs are actually real.

Cannabis, on the other hand, I have had some absolutely awful experiences with. It starts with a rush of euphoria, but it quickly turns sour. Most times I've used cannabis (smoking or edibles), I usually end up having intense panic attacks and really terrifying hallucinations. I have hallucinated someone hurting me while I was catatonic, bugs, animals, voices, etc. Needless to say, I was fearful of these situations, so if I were seeing real bugs while high, I would have the same reaction— Panic, cry, try to get away, etc.

TLDR— Xanax is calming, but does not get rid of fear entirely, as if there is a haze or layer over my processing of the situation. Cannabis starts with an euphoric high, but ends up causing hallucinations of triggers for me, so it did not help with my anxiety or triggers.

I'm sorry if this doesn't all make sense, but I hope some of this was helpful? I can try to clarify anything if needed.
 
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Daria98765

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I've used Xanax and cannabis seperately, but I'm on a lot of other medication, so take this with a pinch of salt.

Xanax has helped me feel more calm and mellow, but it doesn't really make fear go away. It definitely takes some anxiety away, but there is still some fear— it's kinda foggy and delayed. For example, I have a huge phobia with certain bugs. When I take a Xanax, I'm still fearful of any bugs I come across, but it's almost as if it doesn't completely register in my brain that the bugs are actually real.

Cannabis, on the other hand, I have had some absolutely awful experiences with. It starts with a rush of euphoria, but it quickly turns sour. Most times I've used cannabis (smoking or edibles), I usually end up having intense panic attacks and really terrifying hallucinations. I have hallucinated someone hurting me while I was catatonic, bugs, animals, voices, etc. Needless to say, I was fearful of these situations, so if I were seeing real bugs while high, I would have the same reaction— Panic, cry, try to get away, etc.

TLDR— Xanax is calming, but does not get rid of fear entirely, as if there is a haze or layer over my processing of the situation. Cannabis starts with an euphoric high, but ends up causing hallucinations of triggers for me, so it did not help with my anxiety or triggers.

I'm sorry if this doesn't all make sense, but I hope some of this was helpful? I can try to clarify anything if needed.
Thank you very much. This kind of feedback i was looking for. I was expecting that medication might not really make fear go away and got your answer as an example. Your cannabis experience surprised me,i thought it supposed make me relaxed,not hyped and attacked by hallucinations like LSD would do. Can you advice me anything how i could gather more information about relaxing/sedative/removing fear medications/drugs? I need people's cases,experience.
 
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if benzos work for you (I mean valium has occasionally worked for me but not every time, and I have only used it occasionally) it puts a blanket of calm over you which helps you cope with anything on the day. It only lasts as long as it is working for you e.g. 4-12 hours. It does not give any lasting effect e.g. it does not make you feel calm about things once it's out your system. Hence the possibility of addiction. I used it occasionally to get through days I needed to function better/for relief, but it is not a cure. It doesn't addict everyone but hard to get these days from doctors for this reason. Back in the old days, my dad used it for three months solid and was not addicted…but who knows who gets addicted and who does not…

I've heard propanolol can be used for anxiety. I can't use it due to asthma.

Weed: for some people it worsens anxiety/leads to paranoia, panic etc. And for some it is calming. Weed calmed my agitation for years and made me breathe more deeply. I also used it for example to cope with seeing my mother. Nowadays , I just don't see her. However, I don't think it would help to face somewhere where you'd had a lot of trauma.

For trauma, MDMA therapy is the most promising treatment in the pipeline. See if there is any research programme you can join e.g. in the UK MAPS are recruiting for an MDMA trial and maybe others…https://mapseurope.eu/
 
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Apr 3, 2023
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I'm wondering if anxiety and fear are not constant, but are caused by certain triggers, then can some sedative or relaxing drugs like mushrooms, cannabis remove anxiety, fear when you meet a trigger?
Answer based on your experience please.

Simplified example:
Would a person who has experienced traumatic events on the subway be able to stop experiencing fear, anxiety near the subway if they use sedatives/drugs? If so, will he be able in the future not to experience the mentioned emotions without the help of sedatives/narcotics?
I'm a daily drug user (sedatives an well as everything else) I have cptsd eupd mpd chronic depression all linked to trauma.
I started using valium at 14 and it became daily by 16, it provided me instant release from my pain but has ruined my life in so many ways. If you have an addictive personality stay away cos benzo addiction control every living minute of Ur life
Be left with no memories or braincells a sweating shaking mess
 
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Daria98765

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if benzos work for you (I mean valium has occasionally worked for me but not every time, and I have only used it occasionally) it puts a blanket of calm over you which helps you cope with anything on the day. It only lasts as long as it is working for you e.g. 4-12 hours. It does not give any lasting effect e.g. it does not make you feel calm about things once it's out your system. Hence the possibility of addiction. I used it occasionally to get through days I needed to function better/for relief, but it is not a cure. It doesn't addict everyone but hard to get these days from doctors for this reason. Back in the old days, my dad used it for three months solid and was not addicted…but who knows who gets addicted and who does not…

I've heard propanolol can be used for anxiety. I can't use it due to asthma.

Weed: for some people it worsens anxiety/leads to paranoia, panic etc. And for some it is calming. Weed calmed my agitation for years and made me breathe more deeply. I also used it for example to cope with seeing my mother. Nowadays , I just don't see her. However, I don't think it would help to face somewhere where you'd had a lot of trauma.

For trauma, MDMA therapy is the most promising treatment in the pipeline. See if there is any research programme you can join e.g. in the UK MAPS are recruiting for an MDMA trial and maybe others…https://mapseurope.eu/
Wow,thank you for such an informative feedback.
MDMA is illegal where I live,so it's dead end for me. I don't know for sure,but I think even if I traveled to UK,they won't accept me cause I'm from Non EU country. I think For me the only way to get the stuff from dark web or to Netherlands/Canada/Certain states in US where many drugs were legalized
 
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