[serious] can you get busted if you use paypal to buy SN?

[RealLostSoul]

Okay so I am about to order, everything is set clear, I will order to a friend's house because I am having a last vacation for a week in 2 weeks from now. The last thing I am concerned about in terms of the ordering process, can I seriously get busted (by police) because they can track me down due to me buying with my paypal? I mean my paypal has my bank and home adress full name and everything? I just can't get the hang of crypto shit it sucks big time. What do you guys think? I hope for fast answers because I really want to buy that shit now so it arrives when I am not at home.

 

[Eire1992]

Depends where you are. Where I live SN isn't illegal but it is known to be used to CTB so sometimes, and I stress sometimes, people have been known to receive welfare checks after ordering it (sometimes months later). If you're concerned about that, have a story prepared. Personally I'm taking up fishing because there's nothing like fresh fish but sometimes you're just not in the mood for it so you want to be able to store it. Discoloured meat puts me off though and SN is known to prevent discolouration in preserved meat. Now if you're a police officer at my door, are you gonna think "this guy is suicidal" or are you gonna think "ok enough about the fucking fish already, kid needs a new hobby, and I wanna go grab lunch, will he just shut up already?" I also have a jungle market shopping list full of fishing paraphernalia as well if I really needed to drive the point home.

My long and meandering point is, it's likely not illegal where you are, I don't know of anywhere where it IS 100% illegal. So just do your research on legitimate uses. If you can talk the talk, you'll be left alone.

 

[Samael96]

The purchase of SN is legal so i don't see why they should track every buyer from every site? You should be golden buying it with Paypal, and i did the same with it arriving tomorrow.
I don't know where you are buying it from, but i think the worst that can happen is what happened with my supplier where they sent me an email with a form to fill in with my details and for what reason am i going to use SN.
Of course i had to lie and say for my family's farm to work sausages etc.

I honestly think you are clear use the payment method you want with no issues, still you can wait for more answers to be 100% sure.

 

[RealLostSoul]

Guys it would suck if anyone shows up at my door because my parents will answer it and they know I am suicidal. So if they say I ordered NaNO2 it's game over. FUCK. I really don't want to do shitty partial hanging. Even if, let's say, hypothetically I answer the door, I can't lie that well because I have nothing to do with fishing, a farm, or meat in general, nor does any close relative or friend. Can I say for grilling or so? Even that, I am an anorexic pale guy who looks dead already but I guess I can talk myself out of that if I can see any valid believable story.

 

[Samael96]

Guys it would suck if anyone shows up at my door because my parents will answer it and they know I am suicidal. So if they say I ordered NaNO2 it's game over. FUCK. I really don't want to do shitty partial hanging. Even if, let's say, hypothetically I answer the door, I can't lie that well because I have nothing to do with fishing, a farm, or meat in general, nor does any close relative or friend. Can I say for grilling or so? Even that, I am an anorexic pale guy who looks dead already but I guess I can talk myself out of that if I can see any valid believable story.

You must take a deep breath and think this through deeply: read carefully on the net why is SN used and for what reasons. Has nothing to do with grilling.
I am pretty sure, but not 100%, that the delivery is gonna be made with some courier and they are not allowed to know what is inside the package, so on that note i think you should be fine (?).
About the delivery location this is pretty tough for me to answer or give advice.. i don't know for sure HOW they are gonna deliver it even tho, as i said, it should be a normal delivery.

I am really sorry for not being able to help you more than this.. i am so sorry you are actually having to go through this

 

[boc]

What's your timeline between receiving the package and completing your plan? I don't think the police would show up for a while to do a wellness check (weeks/months). So if you have everything else sorted, you could likely receive the package and just be done with it before they show up. And them showing up is still a low probability event.

 

[Eire1992]

Guys it would suck if anyone shows up at my door because my parents will answer it and they know I am suicidal. So if they say I ordered NaNO2 it's game over. FUCK. I really don't want to do shitty partial hanging. Even if, let's say, hypothetically I answer the door, I can't lie that well because I have nothing to do with fishing, a farm, or meat in general, nor does any close relative or friend. Can I say for grilling or so? Even that, I am an anorexic pale guy who looks dead already but I guess I can talk myself out of that if I can see any valid believable story.

One potential option to consider is have you got anything like Parcel Motel where you're from? We have it in Europe. Basically you make an account with them (fake name), order your parcel to their drop off point nearest to you (delivered to the fake name). Go to the collection point, punch in your code and pay the fee (€3 per 1kg delivery) and off you go with your delivery without speaking to a single person.

At the end of the day, SN isn't actually illegal (anywhere that I know of) and the welfare checks I've read about seem to be mostly in Europe (UK, and a one or two I've heard of here in Ireland) and they can't do jack shit without a warrant either. "Are you suicidal?" "No" "Ok have a nice day." I get the concern regarding parents though being present if a welfare check took place. I'd look into proxy deliveries like Parcel Motel, I'm sure there's an equivalent wherever you're from. As to your concern regarding PayPal, there shouldn't be an issue there really. Unless you're dealing in cryptocurrency, there's gonna be a trail to your bank account whether you use PayPal or not, so honestly there's no real reason not to.

 

[RealLostSoul]

What's your timeline between receiving the package and completing your plan? I don't think the police would show up for a while to do a wellness check (weeks/months). So if you have everything else sorted, you could likely receive the package and just be done with it before they show up. And them showing up is still a low probability event.

Good question. I can't tell you, depends on when it arrives but I want to do it between August to October. Will depend on some external factors.

One potential option to consider is have you got anything like Parcel Motel where you're from? We have it in Europe. Basically you make an account with them (fake name), order your parcel to their drop off point nearest to you (delivered to the fake name). Go to the collection point, punch in your code and pay the fee (€3 per 1kg delivery) and off you go with your delivery without speaking to a single person.

At the end of the day, SN isn't actually illegal (anywhere that I know of) and the welfare checks I've read about seem to be mostly in Europe (UK, and a one or two I've heard of here in Ireland) and they can't do jack shit without a warrant either. "Are you suicidal?" "No" "Ok have a nice day." I get the concern regarding parents though being present if a welfare check took place. I'd look into proxy deliveries like Parcel Motel, I'm sure there's an equivalent wherever you're from. As to your concern regarding PayPal, there shouldn't be an issue there really. Unless you're dealing in cryptocurrency, there's gonna be a trail to your bank account whether you use PayPal or not, so honestly there's no real reason not to.

Thanks. Like I said, my friend can receive it so there is no problem for me haha. I think I can tell him that he (as an ex cook) can take it for meat curing or whatever? That's what I found out about it in a quick search. As for me, no matter how I twist it. I can use a VPN (do you think it's necessary?) but I cannot hide my payment method/bank account.

 

[Eire1992]

Good question. I can't tell you, depends on when it arrives but I want to do it between August to October. Will depend on some external factors.



Thanks. Like I said, my friend can receive it so there is no problem for me haha. I think I can tell him that he (as an ex cook) can take it for meat curing or whatever? That's what I found out about it in a quick search. As for me, no matter how I twist it. I can use a VPN (do you think it's necessary?) but I cannot hide my payment method/bank account.

No you can't hide the payment of it realistically. Not easily anyway. I'd just use PayPal, as I said it's very very likely not illegal. I'd say your odds of receiving a welfare check for something that wasn't even ordered to your address is slim to zero. And even if they did? You've nothing to hide, people pay for things for friends all the time, and PayPal is the best way to do that. Just say you let a friend use your account for buying something online. And ye you are correct, SN is used in meat curing. I would strongly advise using a VPN whenever you're on sites such as SS or looking up stuff about methods and drug regimens for SN. Depending on how draconian your authorities are about monitoring. Personally I only access SS when I use a VPN and TOR. Better safe than sorry with data security.

 

[RealLostSoul]

No you can't hide the payment of it realistically. Not easily anyway. I'd just use PayPal, as I said it's very very likely not illegal. I'd say your odds of receiving a welfare check for something that wasn't even ordered to your address is slim to zero. And even if they did? You've nothing to hide, people pay for things for friends all the time, and PayPal is the best way to do that. Just say you let a friend use your account for buying something online. And ye you are correct, SN is used in meat curing. I would strongly advise using a VPN whenever you're on sites such as SS or looking up stuff about methods and drug regimens for SN. Depending on how draconian your authorities are about monitoring. Personally I only access SS when I use a VPN and TOR. Better safe than sorry with data security.

okay thank you! Yea I never use a vpn and have been getting concerning messages from google which made me afraid. Anyways, one last question for you, do you think if I order from ukraine to the EU, will the costums be any problem? What is controlled there?

 

[Cockney_Rebel]

At least you'll have PayPal Protection, if it turns out to be fake .

 

[RealLostSoul]

Guys important question;
I talked to my friend. He said it's okay he is an ex cook and we buy it for meat curing purposes to make a special steak. But he doesn't want to order from Ukraine (because of the costums). I told him you need high purity SN but yea that's kinda the problem rn. Do you think it's safe ordering from there due to costums?

 

[Eire1992]

okay thank you! Yea I never use a vpn and have been getting concerning messages from google which made me afraid. Anyways, one last question for you, do you think if I order from ukraine to the EU, will the costums be any problem? What is controlled there?

Ye it should be fine. Mine is coming from Turkey and no problems so far and I've read from numerous people who've gotten theirs from either Ukraine or Turkey without issues. There's always a chance of it getting snagged by customs regardless of where it comes from, but at the end of the day, it's not illegal.