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RottenSoul

Disociating through life
Dec 20, 2021
4
Hello everyone, this is my first post here, i wanted to write down some realizations i had about self hatred. Everyone else (my therapist and my "close friends") just try to tell me that i am a valuable person but it never works, it never works because self hatred is a deep rooted cancer inside ones soul (at least that's how i feel about it). Self hatred is not something you can disassemble easily with logic because it's not based around logic. My brain has already decided that i am a piece of garbage and is constantly looking for ways to prove it to me. No matter how much logic you put into trying to prove it wrong the self hatred always wins because it hurts so much that it feels real. The anxiety, the racing thoughts of your inner critic, the self loathing, it hurts so much that logic can not fight it because it's based in emotion and if it feels so real then it must be real. It's so hard when my whole teenage years i grew up thinking i was the guy nobody cared about. Not unlikable, just someone who existed without participating. An observer watching other people have friends, romantic partners, a life, while i was there just existing with people occasionally talking to me to see if i was fine, but they didn't care about me. If i disappeared nobody would notice, at least that's how i felt and no person can tell me otherwise, that was my reality, my absolute truth.

Self hatred is also a self fulfilling prophecy. If i am too busy living inside my own head and in my thoughts i am never truly there. My body might be present but my mind is not, thus i seem distant or shy or not interested. They don't know it's because i hate myself they think that i am just a bit anxious and they don't understand why. Therefore i remain a person always on the sidelines, even if am am outside with other people i don't feel like i belong with them, like an alien guest in their already established group. Never on the main plans of anyone, never invited anywhere for who i am. I am also autistic but this is not because of my autism, i don't fit with other autistic people either, even with them i feel distant and not belonging there. The difference lies not in the autism but in the self-loathing. I know autistic people who are completely alone, others who are not, others who are way weirder than i am but they are okay with it. That's why they can be themselves, their true selves, and be satisfied with who they are, because you can never truly be yourself when you hate yourself, you always try hide what you hate.

After that i realized that i will never be able to be truly happy around other people in general. Because when i am with other people i always compare myself to them, feel inferior to them and feel like i always have to seem likable because else they will leave me. Who would want to be with a boring, self loathing piece of garbage like me? Being with other people is not enjoyable, it feels like a task, a task where i have to hide who i am, where i force myself to talk else i will be ditched and be left alone again. The only moments when i don't feel like a subhuman is when i am alone, who is there to compare yourself to when you are alone? You will always be the worthiest among the bunch.

That's why no matter what i do or what i achieve i will always feel like a piece of garbage. All the academic achievements i made and all the groups of people i have available to go out if want to are just temporary reliefs from the one absolute truth that has already been decided and rooted deep inside my mind: I hate myself. That's why i will always be an observer of life among the participants, the unworthy among the worthy.

Sorry about the long post, i just wanted to write what i was thinking these past few and see if anyone else can relate. Maybe this can be a realization that in the end helps me find if and how tore out of my soul this curse that's called self hatred.
 
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Cyc

It's my fight.
Jan 22, 2026
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That's why no matter what i do or what i achieve i will always feel like a piece of garbage. All the academic achievements i made and all the groups of people i have available to go out if want to are just temporary reliefs from the one absolute truth that has already been decided and rooted deep inside my mind: I hate myself. That's why i will always be an observer of life among the participants, the unworthy among the worthy.
This is the most relatable part imo. I feel like I can't get rid of my self hatred no matter how much I try
 
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Jan 5, 2026
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I relate to what you wrote so so much. im tired of always reaching the conclusion that I'm less than, less worthy, less smart or talented, less deserving of love, and i have mountains of memories and experiences that support those claims, and being left out by "friends" its like a vicious cycle

I also noticed that I remember every fuck up, every lose, every cringe in 4k while every achievement or anything i do acomplish and im proud of is forgotten and disappears pretty much that same second.

I dont know if you will relate but i think I experience the world is through tinted glasses that i just cannot take off, they make me
see and project things that are not necessarily there and that people think about me stuff that are not necessarily true
and it doesnt matter how much good stuff and if i get praise, I can't internalize it the way other people do my brain just ejects it immediately
Maybe part of it is also being addicted to the loser mindset idk.

I think was over for me the second i was born into a household with abusive parent who would scream and threaten and manipulate me and my mother everyday

only thing that helps me is just focusing on myself and the hobbies that makes me happy, i try to reject the thoughts and mindset when it attacks me
like you are worthless - so what? you will fail those tests- so what? ill figure it out ive been through harder things
you are alone you have no friends and you will be like that forever - so what? im doing what makes me happy, i have many more years to save and go for trips around the globe and so many things to see, im healthy etc

ironically when you start thinking only on yourself and what makes you happy, and dress how ever you want beacuse you dont have to impress anyone anymore etc people pick up on it as confidence? and gravitate a bit towards you idk it wont solve anything but its nice to chat with someone every so often


good luck wishing for all of us to figure this **** out and
 
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RottenSoul

Disociating through life
Dec 20, 2021
4
This is the most relatable part imo. I feel like I can't get rid of my self hatred no matter how much I try
I am sorry to hear that you relate to this. It's such a horrible thing to carry, the worst thing is that it feels like it can't change. Sometimes i am afraid that i will always be unhappy no matter what i do because of this. The only thing i can say is that life is so absurd, like you just do stuff that have no point, anything. That's the thing that keeps me alive right now. Learning something, playing a video game, watching an anime or even exercising. They are all things that can keep someone awaiting to experience or to achieve something or they can maybe let you feel a bit better about yourself. Sometimes it's worth to exist just for the fun of it, it's good i think to create purpose out of thin air, everything is so absurd anyway.
I relate to what you wrote so so much. im tired of always reaching the conclusion that I'm less than, less worthy, less smart or talented, less deserving of love, and i have mountains of memories and experiences that support those claims, and being left out by "friends" its like a vicious cycle

I also noticed that I remember every fuck up, every lose, every cringe in 4k while every achievement or anything i do acomplish and im proud of is forgotten and disappears pretty much that same second.

I dont know if you will relate but i think I experience the world is through tinted glasses that i just cannot take off, they make me
see and project things that are not necessarily there and that people think about me stuff that are not necessarily true
and it doesnt matter how much good stuff and if i get praise, I can't internalize it the way other people do my brain just ejects it immediately
Maybe part of it is also being addicted to the loser mindset idk.

I think was over for me the second i was born into a household with abusive parent who would scream and threaten and manipulate me and my mother everyday

only thing that helps me is just focusing on myself and the hobbies that makes me happy, i try to reject the thoughts and mindset when it attacks me
like you are worthless - so what? you will fail those tests- so what? ill figure it out ive been through harder things
you are alone you have no friends and you will be like that forever - so what? im doing what makes me happy, i have many more years to save and go for trips around the globe and so many things to see, im healthy etc

ironically when you start thinking only on yourself and what makes you happy, and dress how ever you want beacuse you dont have to impress anyone anymore etc people pick up on it as confidence? and gravitate a bit towards you idk it wont solve anything but its nice to chat with someone every so often


good luck wishing for all of us to figure this **** out andI think you get the point here.
I am sorry you went through that with the abusive household although it's not like my household was much better. I live in a country where people go live on their own much later than most countries and family is a pretty big thing. The thing is my grandma has gone paranoid lately and doesn't want to pay the electricity bill of the basement is spend most of my time and threatening me and my parents that the power is gonna be cut (yes i am 19 and spending a lot of my time in my parents basement, it's really nice and quiet lol). Anyway enough about me. You can see what i wrote to Cyc. That's how i also deal with life a lot of the time. Life is so absurd that you just do stuff that have no point really. One way to go through is basically what you described and just create artificial meaning, it's basically what people call goals but it can even more basic. Sometimes i feel like i want to be alive just to listen to music or play another video game because it's fun. Absurdity might sound like a heavy word but it is so fun, i think some people might call this optimistic nihilism but i prefer the term absurdity.
 
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