Seeking treatment can work against you.

[Seiko]

If you voluntarily seek treatment at an inpatient care facility—for depression, addiction, etc.—you are (at least in the U.S):

• Permanently DQ'd from all branches of the military.
• Less likely to obtain a security clearance for federal employment.
• Vulnerable to your medical records being subpoenaed in a lawsuit.
• At the risk of being uninsurable—or having premiums increased with coverage reduced.

Mental illness is still very much stigmatized to employers and insurance companies.

 

[DivineMedicus]

On the topic of military disqualification, it is most troubling that the individuals who have experienced a significant period of time in situations fighting and fearing for their lives will most likely be afflicted with debilitating mental disorders. What can they do? Are they going to quit, seek treatment, and live an objectively shittier life because they defended their country and the reluctant government which refuses to address these issues? Or should they succumb to their impairments and potentially end up taking their lives, further encouraging the deplorable statistic of military suicides? It's a lose-lose situation all the way, and many of these stories do not have happy endings.

 

[LivideLamb]

Mental illness is still very much stigmatized to employers and insurance companies.

Sadly, you're entirely right.

Mental illnesses should be treated as seriously as physical illnesses and treated with the same strength and without judgment. You don't refuse a job to a diabetic guy, so don't refuse a job to a depressed one.

Also, by being "too honest" with your therapist, you could end up in a facility against your will and that can seriously fuck with your future. Like you said, the military, gun's and weapon ownership, college, bank, money, etc.
People around you will never blink an eye if you have a heart condition, yet as soon as they can see the anxiety, the depression, the psychosis (and basically everything mental illness related) they'll freak out, mostly not because they care about you but because you scare them, and "you're not the same person as you were before".
(Anyway sowwy for the rambling)

 

[Wrennie]

Sadly, you're entirely right.

Mental illnesses should be treated as seriously as physical illnesses and treated with the same strength and without judgment. You don't refuse a job to a diabetic guy, so don't refuse a job to a depressed one.

Also, by being "too honest" with your therapist, you could end up in a facility against your will and that can seriously fuck with your future. Like you said, the military, gun's and weapon ownership, college, bank, money, etc.
People around you will never blink an eye if you have a heart condition, yet as soon as they can see the anxiety, the depression, the psychosis (and basically everything mental illness related) they'll freak out, mostly not because they care about you but because you scare them, and "you're not the same person as you were before".
(Anyway sowwy for the rambling)

I do agree for the most part, except for that I don't think my physical illnesses are being "taken seriously", either (by the medical establishment). Doctors are also quick to judge a physical ailment that they are incapable of diagnosing outright as "being in your head".

A lot of times physical illnesses can lead to the development of mental illness or even exacerbate pre-existing mental illness, and even in spite of your obvious physical deterioration people will still treat you like you're "insane" if you ever express your desire to die because the pain is so severe. Society's attitudes toward this are downright abhorrent.

 

[noaccount]

True for inpatient definitely, those lucky enough to be able to access outpatient treatment / counseling, and able to walk the line where they can meet their needs without saying anything that gets them locked in inpatient, can sometimes get some good out of it, but that's only possible for so many people, not everyone, the system is rotten.

 

[Crazy4u]

I do agree for the most part, except for that I don't think my physical illnesses are being "taken seriously", either (by the medical establishment). Doctors are also quick to judge a physical ailment that they are incapable of diagnosing outright as "being in your head".

A lot of times physical illnesses can lead to the development of mental illness or even exacerbate pre-existing mental illness, and even in spite of your obvious physical deterioration people will still treat you like you're "insane" if you ever express your desire to die because the pain is so severe. Society's attitudes toward this are downright abhorrent.

Physical illness is not taken seriously especially if the patient is a woman, and the pain is something like chest pain or headaches. This is based on personal experience in multiple clinics

 

[Cameron Diazepam]

The irony is that suicide is called an impulsive and permanent solution to a short-term problem but voluntary commitment can also permanently fuck one over.

 

[TheBestUsernameEver]

If you voluntarily seek treatment at an inpatient care facility—for depression, addiction, etc.—you are (at least in the U.S):

• Permanently DQ'd from all branches of the military.
• Less likely to obtain a security clearance for federal employment.
• Vulnerable to your medical records being subpoenaed in a lawsuit.
• At the risk of being uninsurable—or having premiums increased with coverage reduced.

Mental illness is still very much stigmatized to employers and insurance companies.

1. Military: don't care anyway.
2. Security clearance: damn, I may never know if there are aliens working at area 51
3. Lawsuits: I don't get into trouble anyway.
4. Insurance: yeah that sucks.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

This definitely gets to the root of one of the main issues of current mental health services. Treatment doesn't actually seem to help some of us, it just attempts to make people better at lying about how they feel and getting better at bottling it all up too.

I speak for myself when I say that if I was able to be more open and honest on exactly how I'm feeling without fear of any repercussion whatsoever then that much alone would help more with coping at the bare minimum and yet this tiny thing alone is still barred for many people. Until this changes, which I doubt it ever will, then mental health services are never going to be able to help so many of the people who need it.

 

[Kristicide]

Sadly, you're entirely right.

Mental illnesses should be treated as seriously as physical illnesses and treated with the same strength and without judgment. You don't refuse a job to a diabetic guy, so don't refuse a job to a depressed one.

Also, by being "too honest" with your therapist, you could end up in a facility against your will and that can seriously fuck with your future. Like you said, the military, gun's and weapon ownership, college, bank, money, etc.
People around you will never blink an eye if you have a heart condition, yet as soon as they can see the anxiety, the depression, the psychosis (and basically everything mental illness related) they'll freak out, mostly not because they care about you but because you scare them, and "you're not the same person as you were before".
(Anyway sowwy for the rambling)

When I apply for jobs and it asks if I've ever been diagnosed with a mental illness I always check off no. Like I need another reason for them to immediately write me off. It's their sham way of saying "look we try to hire the minimum amount of people with disabilities".

True for inpatient definitely, those lucky enough to be able to access outpatient treatment / counseling, and able to walk the line where they can meet their needs without saying anything that gets them locked in inpatient, can sometimes get some good out of it, but that's only possible for so many people, not everyone, the system is rotten.

When I was put inpatient treatment I basically was forced to stay there until I accepted to take the medications they wanted me to take. I refused for a while but they beat you down everyday until you know your only hope of eventually getting out is by swallowing the damn things.

 

[noaccount]

I know it's fucking evil. Prisons are for burning.

 

[Zzzzz]

It's barbaric how people who don't or are unable to conform are labeled as both irrational and a liability. No, society is much more irrational. Thinking a predatory system of evolution is both a gift and a great place to raise the fucking children. And people's barbarism towards the depressed , mentally ill,or suicidal unfortunately proves what kind of world this is and encourages suicide.

 

[myopybyproxy]

What about treatment forced upon you?