FireFox

FireFox

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Apr 8, 2020
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The people i went to school with are doing so much better than me in life.

Seeing thier twitter profiles, bumping in to them in public and knowing what thier lives are they are doing so well.

They have careers, partners and active meanigful lives

Seeing my life i realise i have wasted my life and have nothing to show for it.
 
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Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
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I know how you feel. Seeing people doing better than me makes me want to ctb even more, but at the same time, we have to realize that they might not be doing so well behind closed doors
 
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This is wat most painful thing
 
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Belit667

Belit667

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Aug 2, 2020
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I am 35, single, living alone, love reading comic books and watching anime and I don't care about sheeple and their shallow lives.
 
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Brick In The Wall

Brick In The Wall

2M Or Not 2B.
Oct 30, 2019
25,158
Social media is a poor indicator of how someones life actually is. I try to avoid social media use for multiple reasons.

Life also has a tendency of taking everything from you slowly over time. Which brings the age old question is it better to have had it and lost it, or to never have had it at all?

The answer depends on your personal preference or outlook. Both can be painful in their own right.
 
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Belit667

Belit667

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Aug 2, 2020
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Never have and never lose, that's my choice.
 
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FireFox

FireFox

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Apr 8, 2020
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I am 35, single, living alone, love reading comic books and watching anime and I don't care about sheeple and their shallow lives.
@Belit667
Comic books are cool :)
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,710
I used to be worried about it, but after making peace with the fact that this world sucks, everyone eventually dies (naturally or other cause), and that I don't care about all the things that people deem valuable, I have relegated myself to just existing and being on borrowed time while maintaining an facade, an appearance.
 
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Deleted member 17949

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May 9, 2020
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It's crippling. I have friends going to university now, one going to Cambridge, and it hurts so much knowing that they are all more successful in work and social life than I will ever be.
 
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Notmadeforthislife

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Jul 12, 2020
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I struggle with this as well. I can't function under stress because of my mental health problems. So I'll never have a good career. Everywhere I look I see people functioning well in their jobs. They have a job skill and they get to use it. I don't. I wish I knew how to function like a normal healthy adult.
 
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Belit667

Belit667

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Aug 2, 2020
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It's crippling. I have friends going to university now, one going to Cambridge, and it hurts so much knowing that they are all more successful in work and social life than I will ever be.

I guess you're smart enough to get to Cambridge, but for some reasons you decided to being active here instead of studying hard. Everyone has their reasons.
 
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Deleted member 17949

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I guess you're smart enough to get to Cambridge, but for some reasons you decided to being active here instead of studying hard. Everyone has their reasons.
don't have the motivation to study. I tried but gave up, it's too hard. Doubt I would be smart enough anyway.
 
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Huntfish34

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Mar 13, 2020
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I couldn't Agree with you Anymore on this. For many years of my life I've struggled with comparisons to other people / family / friends... You name it,. And then goes my self esteem, confidence, self worth,.. It's been Very draining to say the least. Wish you the best.
 
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DeathNoot

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Feb 19, 2020
137
For all you know they may also be on this site too... I understand the feeling tho , I get it all time. I don't go on social media anymore, it helps a lot. I've been trying to change my mind set but well, it's easier said than done.
 
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Shinkansen

Shinkansen

life is pain
Jul 14, 2020
615
I avoid leaving home except for work or urgent things, it hurts me too much to see people around who have an easier life than mine:
I see people younger than me who take their girlfriend to go to the beach with the convertible car, while I'm a virgin and I've never had a girlfriend in 28 years, and because of my anxiety I've never been able to get a driving license.

from the people around me I'm considered a real loser, I have no friends and nobody wants to talk to me, even my parents complain that I'm unable to do anything.
 
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Belit667

Belit667

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Aug 2, 2020
247
I avoid leaving home except for work or urgent things, it hurts me too much to see people around who have an easier life than mine:
I see people younger than me who take their girlfriend to go to the beach with the convertible car, while I'm a virgin and I've never had a girlfriend in 28 years, and because of my anxiety I've never been able to get a driving license.

from the people around me I'm considered a real loser, I have no friends and nobody wants to talk to me, even my parents complain that I'm unable to do anything.

I hear you. Similar to my situation although I had few girlfriends in the past when I was much better looking. Now I'm friendless, considered a total loser and a nuisance, also sheeple ignore me too. No-one wants talk to me ever.
 
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Ghettofunk

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Jan 27, 2020
30
No one would guess the depth of my mental health problems. I put a very good face on in public and people would think that I'm quite confident and content. Yet here I am on a suicide advise forum.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
6,727
There was a core course for my major that I needed in college, communications theory, but the way it was scheduled in the night program the prerequisite always came after. I finally had no choice but to take the course without the prerequisite or wait another year, because there was nothing else offered at night that would keep me at the minimum full-time load, I'd already taken all of my electives. I was never going to graduate if I didn't take the risk.

The first night of class, the professor followed me outside during the break and pulled me aside. He said, "I saw your transcript and I see you're used to making A's, but I have to tell you, without the prerequisite, you'll be lucky to make a C." He said it in a really condescending, fake-caring, authoritarian way. It was an attack.

I'm 5'3". He was over 6'. I was in my mid-twenties, with some life experience yet also somewhat naive and too open, and looked younger than my years. He was in his late fifties to early sixties, tenured, experienced, and in a position of power in the department. It was very much a David and Goliath moment.

I started to shake a bit, and even more so after I declined to drop and he walked away, the covert assault over and my adrenaline flooding, but what rose up inside almost immediately after that first weakening blow, while he was in front of me, when classmates were watching and listening, was, Aw hell no.

Among the other students, there was a silent, collective, "Oh fuck." Many came up to me after, both that night and in the following weeks, shocked at how he'd acted, shocked at me holding my ground. Some said fuck him, some said they would have never been able to handle it and would've dropped.

He'd thrown down a gauntlet and for a while we were like adversaries watching each other from opposite sides of the ring, sizing each other up, preparing for battle. And the whole class was watching.

I ended up being the top student in the class. Communication theory was not that hard. (And the next quarter I learned the prerequisite had nothing to do with theory at all. I don't ever remember what it was, it was that irrelevant.)

Halfway through the quarter, after being highly engaged in class and then blowing away the midterm, he admitted he was wrong and started showing me respect, something shifted, and we ended up being buddies for the rest of the term. The spectators were shocked at the shift. Afterward, he was one of the professors I went to whenever I needed references, and they were always glowing.

Had I crumbled and dropped, it would have really fucked things up for me. It would have taken even longer to graduate, and it already took eight years as I worked full-time throughout college, and at one point took an opportunity to work at night so that I could finally take some day courses and finish, because the school really didn't care about night students.

@FireFox, I think at some point you need to connect with your self-respect, your self-worth, and your Aw hell no. Or you can remain crumbled and feel like everything is hopeless and out of reach and you'll never finish. You still may finish, but the way you feel about yourself, people in positions of authority and even men you'd want to date and start a family with are going to see that you're beaten down, that you won't say Aw hell no, and beat you down further for their own amusement or fulfillment. You posted yesterday that life is hard and you don't have the strength. Yes, @FireFox, life is fucking goddamned hard. You may get twenty years down the road and feel empowered in spite of how hard life is, or you may feel like you would have been better to have ended your life in your early twenties. Either one is okay. Life is fucking brutal, sometimes with reprieves, sometimes with high moments. It's your choice what to do with that knowledge, and there is no wrong choice. You may fight and not win; as Samuel Johnson said, winning is best, but when you can't win, then second-best is knowing you were worthy to win. Either way, that's self-respect, it's something one has to work to achieve and/or work to maintain, and without it, life is even harder. It's lying on the bed, not for rest or recovery, but as an invalid at the level of the spirit.

You posted yesterday that your reason for ctb'ing is not knowing your purpose. All living beings have to toil to survive, that is the purpose. It sucks. Any higher purpose is new age and self-help social engineering opiate bullshit. Along the way you may discover a fulfilling purpose in what you do, or you may get fed up and make your own purpose. You may repeatedly fail and not find success until you're in you're sixties like Colonel Sanders. You may find it earlier, you may never find it. You may find that success is not what the world says it is, which is always fragile, fleeting, and causes desperate clinging (and already you are desperate for it), but instead that it is something that arises from within, almost always from challenge and adversity. If you keep giving yourself permission to wallow full-time, guess what? That is your purpose, and I've seen plenty of people who do it for the rest of their lives. Like my grandmother, the queen of the whiners and guilt-trippers, they are a drain to everyone around them yet get no power from what they drain, they are the most piteous waifs, their spirits languish, they are internal invalids, they never connect with the power of their unique life forces, and goddamn if they don't outlast everyone, in spite of being helpless and incapable, and in spite of wanting to die.
 
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rt1989526

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Aug 2, 2020
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Ya this weighs on me often too. My 20s were completely consumed by mental illness while they are thrived in school and work and now the effects have taken place.

It's incredible what mental illness has done to my life, I could've been like them.
 
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Ardesevent

Ardesevent

It’s the end of the line, cowboy
Feb 2, 2020
358
Same for me too. I peaked in fifth grade and it all went downhill from there. People my age are typically still in college or already at a dead end job so I don't have to worry about them getting ahead of me in the workplace, but I'm so behind them socially it feels like a bad joke.
 
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Linda

Linda

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Jul 30, 2020
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The people i went to school with are doing so much better than me in life.

Seeing thier twitter profiles, bumping in to them in public and knowing what thier lives are they are doing so well.

They have careers, partners and active meanigful lives

Seeing my life i realise i have wasted my life and have nothing to show for it.
Times change. You don't know what the future will bring. I have seen people who were at the top come crashing down, and people who weren't doing so well start to really prosper. Why not simply get on with your own life, in whatever way seems best to you, and stop comparing yourself to other people?
 
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Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,073
I know what it feels like, I've felt that way for many, many years. I know they say that we should not compare ourselves with others, but it is impossible. When I turn more years I remember that my life does not advance and that I am getting older.
 
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Fedrea

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May 14, 2020
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The people i went to school with are doing so much better than me in life.

Seeing thier twitter profiles, bumping in to them in public and knowing what thier lives are they are doing so well.

They have careers, partners and active meanigful lives

Seeing my life i realise i have wasted my life and have nothing to show for it.
Please don't let comparison with others be a motivation for suicide. We are all different and have different challenges. If we learn to value ourselves for particular qualities and not material success or out with success we can be happy. There are many many people with lives which look outwardly successful and happy here miserable on the inside. again, I completely support the fact that this is a pro-choice website, but this is not a good reason to be pushed towards suicide
 
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May 14, 2018
605
The people i went to school with are doing so much better than me in life.

Seeing thier twitter profiles, bumping in to them in public and knowing what thier lives are they are doing so well.

It's the fucking worst. Especially the bullies.
Literally every douchebag that made me want to quit high school is now successful in some way.

This one bastard was involved in a convenience store robbery where clerk who was a Vietnam veteran was killed. Now he's out, is a master plumber and owns a fucking house with a family.

I don't fuck with social media and I refuse to look anyone up because I know its going to make me feel like shit. When people say "did you hear about X?" I immediately cut them off and say I don't care. I know this makes me an anti social bastard , I just can't take hearing about everyone winning, especially the fucks that don't deserve it.
 
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4eyebiped

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Dec 28, 2019
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This is just a generic thought on comparing.

I am usually not a quote person, as I barely remember my own name, but I read a relevant quote earlier, by happenchance, that said, "Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today." If we adhere to that, I believe a good percentage of us could make positive progress in life. Comparing ourselves to others is like a slick tire on a mud hill.

Truth be told, no matter how good we are at something, there is almost always someone out there that is better, often to a degree that will make one look incompetent in comparison. With almost 8 billion people in the world, there is going to be a large number of people who are better, more skilled and more accomplished than most of us will ever be. (I won't even get into how we often perceive someone being better off when they actually are not) Comparing yourself to others is a vicious trap that almost always ends in self-defeating behavior and a self-defeating mindset.

Yes, it is hard for us humans to not compare ourselves to others. After all, in our primal days (Which wasn't long ago, in the grand scheme of things.), we had to size up other people we encountered and wild vicious animals, for survival reasons. Should I run? Should I pull out the club and start swinging? Should I just stand here, shit myself and pray? Judging and comparing is instinctual for us silly humans. To not compare and judge requires awareness and discipline.

In short, where others are in life, or what they can do, is irrelevant, unless your goal is directly that of competition (e.g., sports). Use what others accomplish beyond you as inspiration. If we don't compare ourselves to others then anything we do, beyond the now, becomes self-improvement. This can be gaining knowledge, improving/gaining skills, getting experience at some task and so forth. Doing, instead of dwelling, increases our self-resume across the board. This makes us more desirable in the business world, and in our private life, as well as making us more confident and competent.

Just think, as a random thought experiment, if we learned, or improved, one single thing a day (They can be minor improvements), we would know, or be able to do, 365 extra things by the end of the year. Over 5 years, that's 1826 things (Yes, I remembered to add one extra in there for leap year (possibly two depending on when it lands)). That would now be an extra 1826 things you know, or can now do. By the time you were in your 50s you would know and be able to do almost 11,000 things! Holyshit batman!
 
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Fedrea

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May 14, 2020
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@FireFox, I think at some point you need to connect with your self-respect, your self-worth, and your Aw hell no. Or you can remain crumbled and feel like everything is hopeless and out of reach and you'll never finish. You still may finish, but the way you feel about yourself, people in positions of authority and even men you'd want to date and start a family with are going to see that you're beaten down, that you won't say Aw hell no, and beat you down further for their own amusement or fulfillment

Well this is true.

But then if ss users could all reconnect with the aw hell no I guess fewer would want to ctb. Not easy to do
 
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Linda

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This is just a generic thought on comparing.

I am usually not a quote person, as I barely remember my own name, but I read a relevant quote earlier, by happenchance, that said, "Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today." If we adhere to that, I believe a good percentage of us could make positive progress in life. Comparing ourselves to others is like a slick tire on a mud hill.

Truth be told, no matter how good we are at something, there is almost always someone out there that is better, often to a degree that will make one look incompetent in comparison. With almost 8 billion people in the world, there is going to be a large number of people who are better, more skilled and more accomplished than most of us will ever be. (I won't even get into how we often perceive someone being better off when they actually are not) Comparing yourself to others is a vicious trap that almost always ends in self-defeating behavior and a self-defeating mindset.

Yes, it is hard for us humans to not compare ourselves to others. After all, in our primal days (Which wasn't long ago, in the grand scheme of things.), we had to size up other people we encountered and wild vicious animals, for survival reasons. Should I run? Should I pull out the club and start swinging? Should I just stand here, shit myself and pray? Judging and comparing is instinctual for us silly humans. To not compare and judge requires awareness and discipline.

In short, where others are in life, or what they can do, is irrelevant, unless your goal is directly that of competition (e.g., sports). Use what others accomplish beyond you as inspiration. If we don't compare ourselves to others then anything we do, beyond the now, becomes self-improvement. This can be gaining knowledge, improving/gaining skills, getting experience at some task and so forth. Doing, instead of dwelling, increases our self-resume across the board. This makes us more desirable in the business world, and in our private life, as well as making us more confident and competent.

Just think, as a random thought experiment, if we learned, or improved, one single thing a day (They can be minor improvements), we would know, or be able to do, 365 extra things by the end of the year. Over 5 years, that's 1826 things (Yes, I remembered to add one extra in there for leap year (possibly two depending on when it lands)). That would now be an extra 1826 things you know, or can now do. By the time you were in your 50s you would know and be able to do almost 11,000 things! Holyshit batman!
That's a brilliant quote. I used to be something of a dancer, and I remember a quote in a similar vein: "I do not try to dance better than anyone else. I only try to dance better than myself." Most people - not just members of this site - would be happier if they remembered to think that way at least some of the time.
 
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GoneGoneGone

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Apr 1, 2020
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You don't know the circumstances of those people. Everything on social media or what they disclose is glitz and awesomeness. Don't fall into that trap. Once you grow closer to certain "friends," they will confide in you and you will see that they are most likely unhappy with their own problems. Just you try to do you. Don't engage in social
Comparison unless it is about a job or topic that you are genuinely interested in on your own.
 
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Belit667

Belit667

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Aug 2, 2020
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It's the fucking worst. Especially the bullies.
Literally every douchebag that made me want to quit high school is now successful in some way.

This one bastard was involved in a convenience store robbery where clerk who was a Vietnam veteran was killed. Now he's out, is a master plumber and owns a fucking house with a family.

I don't fuck with social media and I refuse to look anyone up because I know its going to make me feel like shit. When people say "did you hear about X?" I immediately cut them off and say I don't care. I know this makes me an anti social bastard , I just can't take hearing about everyone winning, especially the fucks that don't deserve it.

It makes you an anti-social hero. The best would be to beat the sh*t of them bullies. Vigilantes rise!
 
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