“Scientists prove universe is not a simulation” 😷

[DarkRange55]

https://scitechdaily.com/physicists-have-mathematically-proven-the-universe-is-not-a-simulation/

I'm disappointed in Krauss - he used to be pretty good.
What they have shown is that one cannot simulate our universe by just using algorithms that cannot handle indeterminate states. That is not the same as showing that the universe cannot be simulated and thus cannot be a simulation. They even simulated their key feature of our universe, its indeterminacy, by thinking through some of the implications of the universe's indeterminacy, contradicting their own conclusion.

 

[phantasmagoria]

I don't know enough about physics to understand what you said, but also couldn't the "proof" they found be simulated or faked in some way by the programmers?

 

[Dejected 55]

The whole thing about being unable to prove a negative really means more than people think.

It would be far easier to prove we are in a simulation than to prove we aren't. IF we in fact are in a simulation, you'd only need one repeatable thing you could prove to conclude it... But to prove we are not in a simulation requires so many things to be proven that it would be impossible.

You just can't prove a negative because you have to disprove every possible exception in order to prove the negative. If even one thing can't be disproven, then you haven't proven the negative.

I don't know why anyone would even try to pass off such a thing.

And, of by the way, IF we are in a simulation the only way to really be sure would be to be able to get outside the simulation. It is super hard to prove you live in a fishbowl without being able to get outside of the fishbowl.