Scared off CO method

[Freedomatlast24]

Hi, if you've made up your mind about doing this, be very careful with this method. I just got out of the hospital after attempting with the CO method in my car and may have lasting internal organ damage.

I used high quality lump charcoal with a $450 CO meter from TPI, followed @befree's (RIP) method to the T, effectively creating an airtight seal in my car with gorilla tape, using 2 charcoal grills with sufficient coal based on the interior of the car, etc. I reached 7000+ ppm (yes I know it's not 10,000+ but this should still kill within hours at the most and I was in there for 6+ hours undisturbed) which it maintained until I passed out and presumably after. Getting in the car, it was extremely hot (but not smoky, since it was only CO being produced), and I'm still having flashbacks about the few minutes I was hyperventilating in there and dousing myself with cold water to stave off the heat.

6 hours later, I woke up effectively paralyzed (I must have had convulsions in the car and paralyzed a lot of my muscles) and with intense brain fog and wasn't even able to reach the keys in my ignition, only my phone which was laying a few inches from my fingers to call my mom with a voice command.

In the hospital all my vitals were fucked and they pumped me full of oxygen with a high flow mask for a few days with a rotating CNA watching me 24/7 (yes, even as I shit). My ejection fraction was 20% at one point with severe chest pain and troponin in the thousands (like a heart attack). I may have lasting scarring on my heart that will increase my risk for heart attacks and may have to go on dialysis for my kidneys because I fucked them up so much with this (I'm in my mid 20s). Of course I was then transferred to the psych ward which is a whole nother can of worms but let's just say nothing has effectively changed since the 50s. Overall, this was an extremely traumatic experience. I'm not one who ever befor experienced PTSD flashbacks daily but now I picture getting into that car and hyperventilating with the heat daily. This experience has supremely fucked me up both mentally and physically. I may also have brain damage which can manifest in memory loss and cognition delays weeks or months down the line (stay tuned!)

Just sharing my honest experience for your guy's perusal and consideration. Thanks for reading if you made it this far.

This has scared me so much off this method.

In the UK I can only find a CO analyzer that reaches 5000 ppm as well.

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

Personally it's not a method I would consider precisely for this reason, that the consequences of failure seem to be significantly greater than with other methods (ex. hanging, SN, etc.) Seems to me that it's one of those methods that's only "ideal" once you've set it up perfectly, which is a lot of pressure given the risks.

With that said, there are horror stories of survival with pretty much any method, so at a certain point you have to make your own evaluation of what you're willing to risk and what's too much, while also acknowledging the cost of not doing anything at all (ie. having to continue to live).

 

[kvsvenky100]

That sounds scary as hell. Fuck.

 

[LilysAngel]

Yes, this sounds very traumatic. Mt heart goes out to OP.

I don't think there is a "perfect" way to CTB. Literally every single method has risks involved.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I don't believe everything that everyone writes. There are plenty of incognito pro-lifers who make up stories, just like that, only to try and scare people, in order to keep them from ctb. What I do know about CO is that each year, countless people die in their homes while sleeping from CO due to faulty furnaces and chimney obstructions. And I can guarantee you that the levels of CO in their homes never even approach levels that charcoal will produce in a small space. Not even close. CO by car exhaust, before catalytic converters, used to be the "go to" method for suicide, because it was so effective, and even those levels never could never come close to burning an adequate amount of charcoal in a small space. If that person's story was true, they probably had all kinds of leakage in the car and the charcoal wasn't burning properly. It may have gotten the level up to 7000 ppm, but then the level dropped, and that's why it was unsuccessful. I think a vehicle isn't the best bet for that method, anyway.

There was a story on CourtTV a while back that they started to talk about, probably because they thought it was going to turn into this "big thing". Anyway, there was some woman who was found dead in some wooded area. The ahem "crime scene" seemed strange. I guess they thought it seemed staged or something. Anyway, CourtTV talked about this "case" for a few nights, maybe a week as more and more details emerged. Details had come out that this woman stopped at a small sporting goods store and bought "strange" things, like a tarp, maybe some kind of sterno fuel, things like that. If I remember right there were multiple patches around the area where it appeared someone was trying to light multiple fires. I think there was also some kind of cord tied to a branch nearby, also. Law enforcement thought everything looked kinda "fishy" and they thought it was a homicide made to look like a suicide.

Anyway, after weeks of investigation they finally determined it was indeed a suicide. Apparently all this woman did was use the sterno fuel to light twigs and branches on fire and then use the small tarp to capture the CO. All she did was just stick her head under the tarp. I can't remember if she had anything else she lit afire, like a small amount of charcoal, or not. I guess her first attempt there was to try and hang herself using that cord they found hanging from a branch, but apparently it wasn't strong enough and broke. So she then resorted to her back-up plan of CO, which was about as simple as anyone could make it - a small campfire-like fire and a tarp. Apparently all the other little burn spots around the area were from her trying to get a fire started. I have no idea what she went through, but she died.

Frankly, amongst all the methods here on SaSu, CO is amongst the easiest and most effective. Of course, you're all free to think what you want, and to believe anyone you want. I can't know for sure, but I think that quoted story previously in this thread is nothing but a scare tactic to scare people away from CO. Again, believe whatever you want. I've said what I think, and I won't be responding to any responses to this post.

 

[LilysAngel]

I don't believe everything that everyone writes. There are plenty of incognito pro-lifers who make up stories, just like that, only to try and scare people, in order to keep them from ctb. What I do know about CO is that each year, countless people die in their homes while sleeping from CO due to faulty furnaces and chimney obstructions. And I can guarantee you that the levels of CO in their homes never even approach levels that charcoal will produce in a small space. Not even close. CO by car exhaust, before catalytic converters, used to be the "go to" method for suicide, because it was so effective, and even those levels never could never come close to burning an adequate amount of charcoal in a small space. If that person's story was true, they probably had all kinds of leakage in the car and the charcoal wasn't burning properly. It may have gotten the level up to 7000 ppm, but then the level dropped, and that's why it was unsuccessful. I think a vehicle isn't the best bet for that method, anyway.

There was a story on CourtTV a while back that they started to talk about, probably because they thought it was going to turn into this "big thing". Anyway, there was some woman who was found dead in some wooded area. The ahem "crime scene" seemed strange. I guess they thought it seemed staged or something. Anyway, CourtTV talked about this "case" for a few nights, maybe a week as more and more details emerged. Details had come out that this woman stopped at a small sporting goods store and bought "strange" things, like a tarp, maybe some kind of sterno fuel, things like that. If I remember right there were multiple patches around the area where it appeared someone was trying to light multiple fires. I think there was also some kind of cord tied to a branch nearby, also. Law enforcement thought everything looked kinda "fishy" and they thought it was a homicide made to look like a suicide.

Anyway, after weeks of investigation they finally determined it was indeed a suicide. Apparently all this woman did was use the sterno fuel to light twigs and branches on fire and then use the small tarp to capture the CO. All she did was just stick her head under the tarp. I can't remember if she had anything else she lit afire, like a small amount of charcoal, or not. I guess her first attempt there was to try and hang herself using that cord they found hanging from a branch, but apparently it wasn't strong enough and broke. So she then resorted to her back-up plan of CO, which was about as simple as anyone could make it - a small campfire-like fire and a tarp. Apparently all the other little burn spots around the area were from her trying to get a fire started. I have no idea what she went through, but she died.

Frankly, amongst all the methods here on SaSu, CO is amongst the easiest and most effective. Of course, you're all free to think what you want, and to believe anyone you want. I can't know for sure, but I think that quoted story previously in this thread is nothing but a scare tactic to scare people away from CO. Again, believe whatever you want. I've said what I think, and I won't be responding to any responses to this post.

Ur my favorite person on this forum.

 

[Freedomatlast24]

I just don't get why anyone would go to that much detail, find out the protocol, the right equipment we all speak of, the terminology & write such a lengthy, detailed & accurate sounding post(s) to scare us off. Like take the time to even get accepted by SS (which is hard!). Just seems like a lot of effort to go to for a 'mentally well' person (I don't use that definition agreeably btw) in their spare time.

But I'm also sure it happens, just a lot of effort is all I'm saying. I also know it's very possible for some people to just cheat death like this. I know of someone that has OD'd on crazy substances that should've killed him but somehow, he's still here, much to medical professionals disbelief.

Idk yes maybe I'm just extremely gullible but it also explains why in tent accidents (literal accidents) with CO some people survive & others die. Everyone's body & strength of survival is different, that's all I'm saying to counter all this.

 

[Dark Window]

I just don't get why anyone would go to that much detail, find out the protocol, the right equipment we all speak of, the terminology & write such a lengthy, detailed & accurate sounding post(s) to scare us off. Like take the time to even get accepted by SS (which is hard!). Just seems like a lot of effort to go to for a 'mentally well' person (I don't use that definition agreeably btw) in their spare time.

But I'm also sure it happens, just a lot of effort is all I'm saying. I also know it's very possible for some people to just cheat death like this. I know of someone that has OD'd on crazy substances that should've killed him but somehow, he's still here, much to medical professionals disbelief.

Idk yes maybe I'm just extremely gullible but it also explains why in tent accidents (literal accidents) with CO some people survive & others die. Everyone's body & strength of survival is different, that's all I'm saying to counter all this.

Well, see if we can find any other failed CO attempts and see if this correlates.