Sad when kids call it quits

[ManWithNoName]

I think the oldest in this presentation was age 12. Most were around ages 7, 8 and 9.

As an older adult I contemplate methods, weigh out the chances of failure if not done correctly. Yet these youngsters apparently knew what to do and didn't seem to hesitate.

It's still saddening when the very, very young ctb.

 

[Marawa]

I wonder about this to. How do they get it right?

 

[Jayxtri]

Bullying must be punishable by law

 

[suffering]

May their brave souls rest in peace..
My opinion is that bulling is often a result of poor parental bond, and yet I saw no mentioning of them committing suicide because of problems with their parents. Toxic parents: one of society's biggest taboos. (I actually hate all parents, everyone who brings children into this world, but at least some of them make an effort).
Fuck humanity.

 

[ManWithNoName]

May their brave souls rest in peace..
My opinion is that bulling is often a result of poor parental bond, and yet I saw no mentioning of them committing suicide because of problems with their parents. Toxic parents: one of society's biggest taboos. (I actually hate all parents, everyone who brings children into this world, but at least some of them make an effort).
Fuck humanity.

Toxic parents yes, also good to include incompetent parents.

 

[elizabeth.luck]

Who are these people? Does this guy just find obituaries of young people and make videos of them?

 

[Macc Lad]

I think the oldest in this presentation was age 12. Most were around ages 7, 8 and 9.

As an older adult I contemplate methods, weigh out the chances of failure if not done correctly. Yet these youngsters apparently knew what to do and didn't seem to hesitate.

It's still saddening when the very, very young ctb.

couldn't agree more.....so sad they think that's the only way out! at such a young age!

 

[ManWithNoName]

Who are these people? Does this guy just find obituaries of young people and make videos of them?

Not sure - but apparently he has a whole channel dedicated to those who ctb.

I'm guess he scours internet for stories with photos of the deceased and compiles them together on a video.

I wonder about this to. How do they get it right?

It has been stated (I think I read it on lostallhope.com) that the chances of failing ctb are very high. When I read that, I became more concerned about my method of ctb, and I'm still rethinking my methods to ensure fail safe.

That video are the stories of those who successfully carried out ctb, so one has to wonder how many kids attempted yet failed.

 

[TAW122]

I agree with you, it is very tragic that people really young ctb, and yes, I believe that better parenting and bullying must be dealt with in order to reduce the amount of suicides by kids. As someone who was bullied during grade school, yes bullying does affect you even into adulthood.

 

[GeorgeJL]

I think the oldest in this presentation was age 12. Most were around ages 7, 8 and 9.

As an older adult I contemplate methods, weigh out the chances of failure if not done correctly. Yet these youngsters apparently knew what to do and didn't seem to hesitate.

It's still saddening when the very, very young ctb.

OMG that was so sad. I didn't know kids could figure out how to end their lives so fast like that. I mean some of them were very young. RIP little ones

 

[ithappens]

JFC these kids were even younger when they ctb than I was when I first attempted. Almost guaranteed it was their home lives or bullying, but watch as it all gets swept under the rug as "poor mental health" as if that just materializes out of nowhere so often.

 

[throwaway123]

JFC these kids were even younger when they ctb than I was when I first attempted. Almost guaranteed it was their home lives or bullying, but watch as it all gets swept under the rug as "poor mental health" as if that just materializes out of nowhere so often.

Exactly!!!!!!!

 

[TAW122]

JFC these kids were even younger when they ctb than I was when I first attempted. Almost guaranteed it was their home lives or bullying, but watch as it all gets swept under the rug as "poor mental health" as if that just materializes out of nowhere so often.

Yeah the way media and society's take on this issue is rather irresponsible and incorrect. They avoid the 'truth' and the real root causes for suicide among kids just because they don't want to admit the flaws and fix the problems. I believe that if parents treated their kids better and their fellow peers are kinder to them, not only would we have less suicides, but also less mass violence in society.

 

[Crazy I]

Tbh in my perspective all children whether they are the victims or the bullies are the real victim of the society. Kids only mimic what they see and if a kid bullies others then that kid probably bullied at home or somewhere else. For example a bully in my elementary school is a neglected child in his home and he in turn tried to do everything he can to garner attention in school including bullying others. And a group of bullies in my junior school mostly a victim of bad parenting, though most of them are rich they didnt have enough attention from their parents and one of them even feels oppressed by his mother. Well i cant blame him bcs from his description his mother is a religious fanatic.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Another video - mostly young (teenagers)

It's still their choice no matter their age. .

Yes but most kids cannot step outside themselves sufficiently to address the issues logically. As adults we can, especially when we are dealing with our demons for decades this gives adults a more informed choice. And if the reason is because of bullying, well as someone already stated in this thread - that's inexcusable because the parents and schools should be able to effectively address that issue.

 

[Shamana]

It's still their choice no matter their age. Yes, bullying is shitty but if this is how they choose to solve it then so be it.

I think that a dangerous premise there. Do you think depressed 8 year old's should candidates for euthanasia? I think it's horribly horribly sad when kids commit suicide. There is a hell of a lot ways of removing bullying from a child's life than dying.

 

[Baskol1]

Im pro choice, but this is far too young. Their lifem ust have been puren ightmares, otherwise, why would they kill themselves at such an extremely young age?

 

[Mr2005]

I blame the internet

 

[ManWithNoName]

Im pro choice, but this is far too young. Their lifem ust have been puren ightmares, otherwise, why would they kill themselves at such an extremely young age?

It takes fuck loads of courage to ctb even as an adult, imagine being a child and over coming ones SI and carry out self deliverance.

 

[Baskol1]

It takes fuck loads of courage to ctb even as an adult, imagine being a child and over coming ones SI and carry out self deliverance.

Yes, they probably expierenced horrible things. Maybe sexual abuse even.

 

[Shamana]

Im pro choice, but this is far too young. Their lifem ust have been puren ightmares, otherwise, why would they kill themselves at such an extremely young age?

Kids can be incredibly impulsive. But so can adults to be fair. I simply do not support kids suicide. There are so many other ways of dealing with the issues in their lives.

 

[Shamana]

IMO the earlier, the better, for as long as they do it right. I didn't had the capacity to think about suicide in their age, or anything else of even a remote complexity really.

The earlier the better with suicide? Are you for real? It's not surprising the bereaved parents and pro-lifers who come on here think the site is evil if this stuff is going around.

 

[Mr2005]

Me neither and we're luckier for it. You realize saying the earlier the better doesn't sound like you have their interest at heart, it sounds sinister

 

[262653]

The earlier the better with suicide? Are you for real? It's not surprising the bereaved parents and pro-lifers who come on here think the site is evil if this stuff is going around.

Evil? Why? Because my opinion contradicts theirs? Because my attitude goes against their morality code? If they going to judge every single member of this site by attitude of one, that's on them from making unreasonable judgements.

You realize saying the earlier the better doesn't sound like you have their interest at heart

No, maybe I don't. Looking at my life from age 8 and onwards, I think I would be better off quitting early, and I generalized that attitude onto everyone who is considering suicide or was considering at some point of their lives, regardless of age group.

 

[Mr2005]

I knew it would come back to you. If you had a time machine are you honestly telling me you'd go back and kill yourself? That there wouldn't be a better use for it?

 

[Shamana]

Evil? Why? Because my opinion contradicts theirs? Because my attitude goes against their morality code? If they going to judge every single member of this site by attitude of one, that's on them from making unreasonable judgements.


No, maybe I don't. Looking at my life from age 8 and onwards, I think I would be better off quitting early, and I generalized that attitude onto everyone who is considering suicide or was considering at some point of their lives, regardless of age group.

I think supporting childhood suicide is pretty evil. Call me a moralist if you will. Bullied children need love, support and change of enviroment. Not death.

 

[Baskol1]

I think supporting childhood suicide is pretty evil. Call me a moralist if you will. Bullied children need love, support and change of enviroment. Not death.

Yes its different when small children do it, because they were often pressured into suicide.

 

[Mr2005]

Lets say it does all go to shit in adulthood (it did for me) all the more reason to let them enjoy their childhood. I may as well have killed myself fifteen years ago but that's because of the decisions I made. I'd tell people not to make the same mistakes I did, not to kill themselves.

 

[Shamana]

Yes its different when small children do it, because they were often pressured into suicide.

Apart from the innocence of children the reality is there is bags of potential and room for growth. When you're older and completely burnt by illness, adversity and have exhausted all your options, then you can begin to talk about "rational" suicide. I have tons of friends with shitty childhoods who are living decent lives as adults. I also know a Ayahuasca practioner who had parents who were heroin addicts and she became one herself. Through Ayahuasca and different methods she's grown into an amazingly wise and compassionate woman. Free of any addictions as well. Yes some children bullied children end up having unhappy lives, but you have let their lives play out. The idea of children committing suicide the younger the better is simply grotesque in my opinion.

 

[Mr2005]

I agree. Some people here just don't want anyone to be happy. I'm not saying Burzolog is one and if he meant no harm then I feel harsh ganging up on him as I've had it done to me but on the other hand there's psychopaths who like to come out of the shadows and make a comment when they think their sadism will go unnoticed