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blackflag1

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Oct 6, 2019
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It can be administered by EMS here though often is not. They generally assume an OD and use Narcan and keep dosing once they notice no improvement. If the SN bottle is noticed by EMS, they will have more of a chance of knowing the actual cause of distress and respond accordingly. It is not like I am discussing an insurmountable problem here, bottle out of site and not being found works. Very easy problems to solve.
 
CyanideSoup

CyanideSoup

Memento mori
Oct 1, 2019
463
Okay, I'll try and respond to everyone's questions. I thought I'd planned well. My boyfriend works late and it's very rare that he finishes early so I didn't think I'd be found before I ctb.

I had antiemetics but another member told me that I shouldn't take them with my antipsychotics. When I found that out I'll be honest I rushed into doing it because I didnt 'have to wait it out' anymore.

I wasn't conscious in the ambulance so I can't tell you if they had methylene blue or if it was administered at the hospital but I live quite close to a hospital so I guess that's a factor I didn't think about.

I was scared after I first drank the SN and when I vomited but I led down and put some music on and I nearly felt peaceful. Like I said I personally wasn't in pain other than headache and my throat hurt from being sick.

I did leave a note, I also did leave the bottle out by accident. I planned to put it back where id been hiding everything but in the moment I guess I forgot.

I will be trying again once the crisis team is off my back. I'm also going to come off of my antipsychotics so I guess I'll be here until they're out of my system at least.
 
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blackflag1

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Sorry it did not work as intended, but I am happy you have not experienced any debilitating effects.
 
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sleepy dog

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Sep 13, 2019
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Okay, I'll try and respond to everyone's questions. I thought I'd planned well. My boyfriend works late and it's very rare that he finishes early so I didn't think I'd be found before I ctb.

I had antiemetics but another member told me that I shouldn't take them with my antipsychotics. When I found that out I'll be honest I rushed into doing it because I didnt 'have to wait it out' anymore.

I wasn't conscious in the ambulance so I can't tell you if they had methylene blue or if it was administered at the hospital but I live quite close to a hospital so I guess that's a factor I didn't think about.

I was scared after I first drank the SN and when I vomited but I led down and put some music on and I nearly felt peaceful. Like I said I personally wasn't in pain other than headache and my throat hurt from being sick.

I did leave a note, I also did leave the bottle out by accident. I planned to put it back where id been hiding everything but in the moment I guess I forgot.

I will be trying again once the crisis team is off my back. I'm also going to come off of my antipsychotics so I guess I'll be here until they're out of my system at least.

Did you use an antacid like Tagamet? How much SN did you take?
 
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Eurus

Everything Must Cease.
Sep 30, 2019
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Hoping the best for you
 
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bubbletea

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Feb 18, 2019
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Okay, I'll try and respond to everyone's questions. I thought I'd planned well. My boyfriend works late and it's very rare that he finishes early so I didn't think I'd be found before I ctb.

I had antiemetics but another member told me that I shouldn't take them with my antipsychotics. When I found that out I'll be honest I rushed into doing it because I didnt 'have to wait it out' anymore.

I wasn't conscious in the ambulance so I can't tell you if they had methylene blue or if it was administered at the hospital but I live quite close to a hospital so I guess that's a factor I didn't think about.

I was scared after I first drank the SN and when I vomited but I led down and put some music on and I nearly felt peaceful. Like I said I personally wasn't in pain other than headache and my throat hurt from being sick.

I did leave a note, I also did leave the bottle out by accident. I planned to put it back where id been hiding everything but in the moment I guess I forgot.

I will be trying again once the crisis team is off my back. I'm also going to come off of my antipsychotics so I guess I'll be here until they're out of my system at least.
Sorry to hear it didn't go as planned. When did you fall unconscious? How did you become conscious in the ambulance?
 
White_Room293

White_Room293

rapid cycling gay guy
Sep 13, 2019
155
Why are you adding benzos to the process?
Why are you adding painkillers to the process?
Unlike you some people have anxiety and would hate to experience tachycardia before they die. I also wouldn't like to have a bad headache. There is no reason to not add them
 
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Oct 3, 2019
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I can confirm this. I was visiting my bf in the West Midlands over the summer and he attempted to OD on antidepressants. Once they made sure he was physically well at the hospital they sent him home. And every time he had a crisis after that he literally had to call them up pleading that he was feeling suicidal and didn't know what he'd do out of desperation before they'd even send a crisis team member to speak with him.

They basically sit you down and let you get stuff off your chest and they leave.

I was baffled by this as an American.
Really? Interesting.
 
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Rachel74

Rachel74

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Sep 7, 2019
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They don't do that in the UK. You're sent home 99% of the time once you've physically recovered.
Exactly this! Even if your severed head was falling off that's still send you home!
 
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blueming

if we can stand outside the borders of time
Sep 21, 2018
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I'm really sorry it didn't work out as planned. Wishing you a quick recovery and also good luck with the crisis team! ^^
 
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CyanideSoup

Memento mori
Oct 1, 2019
463
OK the crisis team were there usual useless selves. Didn't know what had happened at all so made me talk through everything which was really horrible and once I'd explained everything they just told me to 'keep doing what I'm doing' so... Yeah. Still pretty much on my own I guess.
 
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Blackjack

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Aug 6, 2019
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OK the crisis team were there usual useless selves. Didn't know what had happened at all so made me talk through everything which was really horrible and once I'd explained everything they just told me to 'keep doing what I'm doing' so... Yeah. Still pretty much on my own I guess.
At least you're not in Psych.
 
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Qverty7455

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Sep 28, 2019
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OK the crisis team were there usual useless selves. Didn't know what had happened at all so made me talk through everything which was really horrible and once I'd explained everything they just told me to 'keep doing what I'm doing' so... Yeah. Still pretty much on my own I guess.
someone tried to CTB and they tell him to keep doing wthat she's been doing what the hell are these times...they must be joking or smth
 
NegativeSymptoms

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Sep 4, 2019
154
What antipsychotic were you on?
 
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OK the crisis team were there usual useless selves. Didn't know what had happened at all so made me talk through everything which was really horrible and once I'd explained everything they just told me to 'keep doing what I'm doing' so... Yeah. Still pretty much on my own I guess.
It's almost impossible to get sectioned now in the UK. There are just no beds. You basically have to have zero mental capacity ie. not know your own name AND be a threat to yourself and others.
 
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It's almost impossible to get sectioned now in the UK. There are just no beds. You basically have to have zero mental capacity ie. not know your own name AND be a threat to yourself and others.
Pretty much, when I've been sectioned in the past they liked to make a big deal that I was taking up a bed and that barely anyone gets a place in anymore. Like I should be appreciative of being locked up against my will but yeah..
 
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Pretty much, when I've been sectioned in the past they liked to make a big deal that I was taking up a bed and that barely anyone gets a place in anymore. Like I should be appreciative of being locked up against my will but yeah..
How on earth can they defend having a go at you for taking up a bed. Isn't that what the beds are for? Taking up? Using?
 
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CyanideSoup

CyanideSoup

Memento mori
Oct 1, 2019
463
How on earth can they defend having a go at you for taking up a bed. Isn't that what the beds are for? Taking up? Using?
I think it's got something to do with the whole 'suicide is selfish' arguement but I really don't know.
 
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sleepy dog

sleepy dog

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Sep 13, 2019
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Unlike you some people have anxiety and would hate to experience tachycardia before they die. I also wouldn't like to have a bad headache. There is no reason to not add them

Why do you assume I don't have anxiety? I have anxiety, that's probably the biggest reason I think of suicide. It amazes me how so many people want to take a process that was arrived at by people that have knowledge about it and change it. When you add these other drugs you might be changing the process to one that won't work. How is that not obvious?
 
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White_Room293

White_Room293

rapid cycling gay guy
Sep 13, 2019
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Why do you assume I don't have anxiety? I have anxiety, that's probably the biggest reason I think of suicide. It amazes me how so many people want to take a process that was arrived at by people that have knowledge about it and change it. When you add these other drugs you might be changing the process to one that won't work. How is that not obvious?
It's the same process as nitrogen suicide by gas. Why would Tylenol interact with nitrogen or SN?
 
Blackjack

Blackjack

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thats what i thght! but many people responding like it would have been better to have been, what would that solve?!
Let me assure everybody, unless you are certifiably straight-jacket, bat-shit crazy, nobody belongs in Psych.
 
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CyanideSoup

CyanideSoup

Memento mori
Oct 1, 2019
463
So I think im getting judgmental vibes from some people for my reaction to crisis and I don't know if I'm being paranoid or sensitive but I'll say what I need to say. The last thing I want is to go back into psych, but that doesn't mean Im not disappointed in the crisis team. If they're going to make it so I can't leave the house without a family member escorting me, or knocking on the bathroom door if I'm in there for 30 seconds longer than they think I should be. If they're going to try and force me to be alive when I don't want to be, then they should atleast give me some form of support instead of 'just keep doing what youre doing' because it's clearly not working. So yes I'm disappointed.
 
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Blackjack

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So I think im getting judgmental vibes from some people for my reaction to crisis and I don't know if I'm being paranoid or sensitive but I'll say what I need to say. The last thing I want is to go back into psych, but that doesn't mean Im not disappointed in the crisis team. If they're going to make it so I can't leave the house without a family member escorting me, or knocking on the bathroom door if I'm in there for 30 seconds longer than they think I should be. If they're going to try and force me to be alive when I don't want to be, then they should atleast give me some form of support instead of 'just keep doing what youre doing' because it's clearly not working. So yes I'm disappointed.
I'm not judging at all. But you hit the nail on the head about forcing you to be alive without providing proper support. That's everything that's wrong with mental health "care"...there is none.
 
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May 31, 2019
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So I think im getting judgmental vibes from some people for my reaction to crisis and I don't know if I'm being paranoid or sensitive but I'll say what I need to say. The last thing I want is to go back into psych, but that doesn't mean Im not disappointed in the crisis team. If they're going to make it so I can't leave the house without a family member escorting me, or knocking on the bathroom door if I'm in there for 30 seconds longer than they think I should be. If they're going to try and force me to be alive when I don't want to be, then they should atleast give me some form of support instead of 'just keep doing what youre doing' because it's clearly not working. So yes I'm disappointed.
I don't blame you for feeling the way you do. What kind of response is that from your crisis team? Aware of your attempt but just "keep doing what your doing"?? Mental health support is an absolute joke, regardless of if you will take on board what they would have said or not, they 100percent have failed you by not trying to give some kind of advice. Your not the qualified one, they are, so to offer no help other than what your doing is beyond me.
Note: the word qualified used very loosely!!
 
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