Rope suggestions with pics

[Morris1211]

Anyone who is planning FSH and has a rope can you send a pic or link? I've read the FSH mega thread thoroughly. I read single braided is recommended because it's easier to manipulate. Width should be 10-14mm. Seems 12mm is most common. Polyester or polypropylene. There is an expert on here who posts a lot of information on the FSH threads I'd like to know what rope they are using. JesiBel is their username.

 

[everydaythesame]

please take care.

 

[Morris1211]

please take care.

Where did you buy the rope? Do you know stats on it? Like material, double or single braided, static etc. It looks like a good rope. Thank you for sharing. I hope your journey is quick and painless. What knot is that?

 

[Worndown]

Double braided dock line, 12mm.
Strong, supple, smooth finish and holds knots well.
Amazon, boating supply, some walmart and hardware stores.

 

[everydaythesame]

Where did you buy the rope? Do you know stats on it? Like material, double or single braided, static etc. It looks like a good rope. Thank you for sharing. I hope your journey is quick and painless. What knot is that?

I bought it off amazon a year ago. its good, just need to kick the stall and thats it. i think its 12.5, some kind of climbing rope. mines too long, only a meter will do. just a simple slipknot is more than adequate. no specific knot around the anchor point. pretty much any knot will do. it's the other end that's more important. Just remembered the rope is polypropylene.

 

[JesiBel]

Photo just to show the rope and two knots (Anchor hitch knot and Arbor knot). The ladder is something I had on hand for tying the rope.

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It's 12 mm thick, made of polypropylene, single braid, and static. I bought it at a hardware store without any problems; I even chose my favorite color (:
Polyester is also a good material and option.

Perhaps it's best to go to a physical store and see the ropes for yourself, maybe try to make some easy knots with the samples.
I think it will be easier for you to choose a rope like that, especially the thickness.
For example, in my case the 14 mm one seemed too thick for me when I saw it.

I learned a lot in this forum, from both current and former users. So I'm grateful.

 

[Morris1211]

Photo just to show the rope and two knots (Anchor hitch knot and Arbor knot). The ladder is something I had on hand for tying the rope.

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It's 12 mm thick, made of polypropylene, single braid, and static. I bought it at a hardware store without any problems; I even chose my favorite color (:
Polyester is also a good material and option.

Perhaps it's best to go to a physical store and see the ropes for yourself, maybe try to make some easy knots with the samples.
I think it will be easier for you to choose a rope like that, especially the thickness.
For example, in my case the 14 mm one seemed too thick for me when I saw it.

I learned a lot in this forum, from both current and former users. So I'm grateful.

Thank you. I appreciate your input. You're the resident hanging expert. Do you remember which hardware store? I'm sure any hardware would have these types of rope. Purple is a good colour. Have you tested your set up?

 

[gasforme]

Does width/size of the anchor matter at all for rope strength?

 

[JesiBel]

Thank you. I appreciate your input. You're the resident hanging expert. Do you remember which hardware store? I'm sure any hardware would have these types of rope. Purple is a good colour. Have you tested your set up?

I don't remember the name of the store, but I'm sure you can find many types of rope in any hardware store; it's a common item that you can use at home, at work, in your vehicle/motorcycle/bicycle if you transport things and need to tie them up. You can even visit stores that sell camping and outdoor gear.

Yes, it's always necessary to test your entire setup to be sure that nothing will break and everything will work properly: anchor point, rope, knots (you can watch video tutorials to learn how to tie them and practice)

Thank you, you're kind. There are many active users from whom I learned a lot; you'll also find them posting on the forum: AreWeWinning, Gustav Hartmann, Worndown (and Evelyn Lane she's no longer on the forum, but her threads have been very helpful to me when I arrived here). I recommend you follow them.

Does width/size of the anchor matter at all for rope strength?

The strength of the rope will depend on its construction, material, and thickness. Always check the WLL (Working Load Limit) of the rope before buying it.
Always choose synthetic materials such as polyester or polypropylene, which are strong.
You will see that as the thickness of the rope increases, so does its strength.
Between 10 and 14 mm is a good thickness. If it's too thick, it won't penetrate the neck properly and tying knots will be difficult.

 

[AreWeWinning]

Does width/size of the anchor matter at all for rope strength?

Not really. For example, ropes are often tied to metal rings or carabiners, which are usually quite thin in diameter, yet it works fine. It's hard to imagine any realistic scenario where the size or shape of an object would cause an issue.

 

[Worndown]

Knots cause problems. Anchors likely matter, but not sure how much.
Make sure your rope has a good working load.

 

[Morris1211]

I don't remember the name of the store, but I'm sure you can find many types of rope in any hardware store; it's a common item that you can use at home, at work, in your vehicle/motorcycle/bicycle if you transport things and need to tie them up. You can even visit stores that sell camping and outdoor gear.

Yes, it's always necessary to test your entire setup to be sure that nothing will break and everything will work properly: anchor point, rope, knots (you can watch video tutorials to learn how to tie them and practice)

Thank you, you're kind. There are many active users from whom I learned a lot; you'll also find them posting on the forum: AreWeWinning, Gustav Hartmann, Worndown (and Evelyn Lane she's no longer on the forum, but her threads have been very helpful to me when I arrived here). I recommend you follow them.


The strength of the rope will depend on its construction, material, and thickness. Always check the WLL (Working Load Limit) of the rope before buying it.
Always choose synthetic materials such as polyester or polypropylene, which are strong.
You will see that as the thickness of the rope increases, so does its strength.
Between 10 and 14 mm is a good thickness. If it's too thick, it won't penetrate the neck properly and tying knots will be difficult.

Thank you for all the information. Is Evelyn no longer on this site because she passed? I saw on her account it says "banned" when I was reading her posts about hanging. When buying the rope will it have WLL on it? Also is that a stopper knot next to the arbor knot in your pic?

 

[whocaresnobodycares]

re: HOW TO tie a noose

I recently saved this video, plus another mute/ way shorter one, on Youtube.
Some nosey do-gooder will inevitably "get it taken down" so I hope you can see it soon.

 

[JesiBel]

Thank you for all the information. Is Evelyn no longer on this site because she passed? I saw on her account it says "banned" when I was reading her posts about hanging. When buying the rope will it have WLL on it? Also is that a stopper knot next to the arbor knot in your pic?

When I arrived at the forum, Evelyn was no longer active. I don't know the reasons why she was banned, sorry.

Yes, the WLL is usually specified on the rope's label. (If they sell it in sealed packages, usually in lengths of 10/15 meters, 30 meters...)
Or in the rope samples there are signs with that information from the manufacturer. (If they sell rope in the length of meters you need)

Perhaps you can buy 10 or 15 meters; that will be enough to find and test several anchor points.

Yes, the Arbor Knot has its own Stopper Knot (Overhand Knot). I also made a Stopper Knot on the free end of the Anchor Hitch Knot. This makes the knots more secure.

re: HOW TO tie a noose

I recently saved this video, plus another mute/ way shorter one, on Youtube.
Some nosey do-gooder will inevitably "get it taken down" so I hope you can see it soon.

The hangman's knot was used in executions (Drop hanging).

I don't recommend it for an attempt. Here in the forum we talk about Full or Partial Suspension.

The death mechanism is not the same. The aim here is not to break the neck, but to block the flow of oxygenated blood to the brain.

Brief summary about brain oxygen deprivation and death

Self-tightening knot (hanging forensic photos) vs Fixed knot, carotid arteries, ligature position, pre-adjusting the ligature around the neck (Warning: this thread contains explicit content)

For the ligature, you can use a self-tightening knot that slides easily. Like the Arbor Knot:



In this thread it's discussed the Arbor Knot (for the ligature, function), Anchor Hitch Knot and Bowline Knot (for the anchor point)

 

[whocaresnobodycares]

When I arrived at the forum, Evelyn was no longer active. I don't know the reasons why she was banned, sorry.

Yes, the WLL is usually specified on the rope's label. (If they sell it in sealed packages, usually in lengths of 10/15 meters, 30 meters...)
Or in the rope samples there are signs with that information from the manufacturer. (If they sell rope in the length of meters you need)

Perhaps you can buy 10 or 15 meters; that will be enough to find and test several anchor points.


The hangman's knot was used in executions (Drop hanging).

I don't recommend it for an attempt. Here in the forum we talk about Full or Partial Suspension.

The death mechanism is not the same. The aim here is not to break the neck, but to block the flow of oxygenated blood to the brain.

Brief summary about brain oxygen deprivation and death

Self-tightening knot (hanging forensic photos) vs Fixed knot, carotid arteries, ligature position, pre-adjusting the ligature around the neck (Warning: this thread contains explicit content)

For the ligature, you can use a self-tightening knot that slides easily. Like the Arbor Knot:



In this thread it's discussed the Arbor Knot (for the ligature, function), Anchor Hitch Knot and Bowline Knot (for the anchor point)

OK. Thanks for clarifying. While I KNOW I'm ignorant about SN, I thought a noose is a noose. Didn't realize there were diversions besides the type of rope (I believe Chris Cornell used rubber-hosing. I hope I'm not getting him mixed up with Aaron Hernandez. Chris - nice musician. Aaron - baaad murderer... of course, severe CTE from football could've caused his behavior. His brain evidently was totally wrecked, cf. his autopsy)

 

[Worndown]

Thank you for all the information. Is Evelyn no longer on this site because she passed? I saw on her account it says "banned" when I was reading her posts about hanging. When buying the rope will it have WLL on it? Also is that a stopper knot next to the arbor knot in your pic?

I believe she was very descriptive in her advice and ran afoul of general site rules. Balancing conversation and advocacy is a delicate balance.

 

[AreWeWinning]

I believe she was very descriptive in her advice and ran afoul of general site rules. Balancing conversation and advocacy is a delicate balance.

I don't know why she was banned, but I got a similar impression from some of her posts. It's just a guess, though.