Discussion Risk of suicide — as well as depression — found in the genome

[Johnnythefox]

Maybe an explanation at last.

https://news.yale.edu/2019/01/18/risk-suicide-well-depression-found-genome

 

[Aesthler]

Fuck you DNA for being so unchangeable and having lots of shitty variants.

 

[Johnnythefox]

I would be inclined to agree with the DNA theory, my father was a miserable b'stard.

 

[TiredHorse]

My ex is a microbiologist with a serious grounding in evolutionary genetics. This information has been around for a while, and it was partially responsible for my hesitation to have kids with her: her father ctb, her aunt was suicidal, their mother was suicidal; my great grandmother and two of her four sisters all ctb, my grandfather's sister ctb, my sister and mother have been suicidal, and I'm suicidal. Not a great genomic record to bequeath a child.

And yet she was unmoved, and called me a coward for my reluctance.

 

[Johnnythefox]

My ex is a microbiologist with a serious grounding in evolutionary genetics. This information has been around for a while, and it was partially responsible for my hesitation to have kids with her: her father ctb, her aunt was suicidal, their mother was suicidal; my great grandmother and two of her four sisters all ctb, my grandfather's sister ctb, my sister and mother have been suicidal, and I'm suicidal. Not a great genomic record to bequeath a child.

And yet she was unmoved, and called me a coward for my reluctance.

I often wonder if my kids are okay.
I'll probably never know tbh.

 

[ParamitePie]

It's not really surprising I turned out this way, since both my parents were diagnosed with depression. I don't want to lay blame on them, because they did everything they could, but there's no helping genetics.

 

[Smilla]

My ex is a microbiologist with a serious grounding in evolutionary genetics. This information has been around for a while, and it was partially responsible for my hesitation to have kids with her: her father ctb, her aunt was suicidal, their mother was suicidal; my great grandmother and two of her four sisters all ctb, my grandfather's sister ctb, my sister and mother have been suicidal, and I'm suicidal. Not a great genomic record to bequeath a child.

And yet she was unmoved, and called me a coward for my reluctance.

I admire your willingness to confront her with the very real risks of having a child, and your reluctance to board her baby making train.

She sounds like the coward, not you.

 

[Smilla]

I often wonder if my kids are okay.
I'll probably never know tbh.

Is there any way to reach out to them or is that impossible at this point?

 

[Johnnythefox]

I sent my son a message on Facebook a few weeks ago, I decided to tell him some truths about his mother and lover, I've not checked in a while for a reply. At this point I would only expect the worst, I know that they have been brainwashed and I don't know if I care anymore.

They have never known me and never will.
Cest la vie

 

[Misanthrope]

I am glad science is chasing the shadows of mental illness and trying to find answers. There are some very compelling shadows being looked at. The hereditary angle is a very interesting one. A lot of bipolar runs on one side of the family for me, resulting in several suicides. I seem to have inherited it as well. Much like @TiredHorse I had a similar conversation with my soon to be wife at the time, as she wanted me to undo the snip. I had to tell her I did not want to roll the dice on inflicting bipolar on my own child. However much I wanted to be a father. It is such a cruel illness. That was a painful conversation, she was very upset that word upset does not cover it. Took many months but eventually talk turned to adoption, but she passed away sadly, before either of us got to that point.

My only concern with sculpting DNA and designer babies is the stuff that happens in the film Gattaca. Pretty amazing film if you have not seen it. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/

It is sad you were called a coward Tiredhorse I think you were noble in your intent.

 

[Johnnythefox]

My only concern with sculpting DNA and designer babies is the stuff that happens in the film Gattaca.

Yes, I have seen it, I do think that in the future it will be a reality, designer babies are already a reality,

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

My ex is a microbiologist with a serious grounding in evolutionary genetics. This information has been around for a while, and it was partially responsible for my hesitation to have kids with her: her father ctb, her aunt was suicidal, their mother was suicidal; my great grandmother and two of her four sisters all ctb, my grandfather's sister ctb, my sister and mother have been suicidal, and I'm suicidal. Not a great genomic record to bequeath a child.

And yet she was unmoved, and called me a coward for my reluctance.

I wonder if there's anything more off-putting than a spouse forcing you to try for children. My ex-wife literally said "shit or get off the pot" to me at one point. Like wow, now I'm hard.

 

[RyanSuicide]

Maybe an explanation at last.

https://news.yale.edu/2019/01/18/risk-suicide-well-depression-found-genome

Thanks for the link. I knew I was biologically born to die

 

[15dec]

Wouldn't surprise me if my depression/suicidal thoughts come down to genetics. It'd explain how it came out of nowhere and didn't have a real trigger, I think