Sorry to hear what you've been through.
Athasios doesnt need family approval or consent. Pegasus didn't need in the past but i think they got into trouble for aiding people to die and didn't want their family to know, so they put it into their requirement now, i mean who knows how suffering feels like more than the sufferer themselves.
Thanks pal, appreciate that.
I was on Athanasios' website yesterday but was put off looking any further into things because someone on my thread said that Athanasios now require family consent. I think I'll email them myself and ask for their current stance on this, any organisation can change their policies at any time so I'll speak to them about it. Hopefully (even if they have all implemented family consent) they are able to use their discretion in certain circumstances.
It really frustrating that
any of these organisations require family consent, especially for those of us who are single and have no dependents. Those of us with chronic illnesses, chronic pain, and/or any other debilitating conditions, who will never be able to have any sort of a "normal" and/or meaningful life ever again,
should have the right to die if
we choose to. I think it's unfair to have to get consent from our families (for numerous reasons) to be able to access assisted suicide, because it is
us having to suffer. I realise that for many of us (myself included) our families also suffer; I am acutely aware of that, but still, our families should respect our decision if we're suffering a lot and have a poor quality of life (and in that case it should actually provide some relief to them knowing that we're not suffering anymore).
I'm not certain about this, but it seems that requiring family consent (by some or all of these organisations) is more than likely a consequence of legal action having been taken by some of the families whose loved ones took it upon themselves to end their lives at one of these organisations, or because of complaints to the authorities by the families. So they have probably been ordered (or at least pressurised) to take this action by the authorities, as I doubt they'd have chosen to implement family consent themselves as it will obviously be losing them a lot of money. I'm aware they've also been heavily criticised, but in my experience criticism alone would not be enough to force an organisation to change their policies (especially when there's large sums of money involved), but legal action or pressure from the authorities definitely is (however I could be wrong). Either way, requiring family consent means that people like us (and many others all over the world) have got to either suffer for the rest of our lives, or take matters into our own hands (which is why most of us are on this site). I'd be interested in hearing what those families would have preferred, their loved ones dying peacefully and with dignity in a supported medical facility, or from SN poisoning or a self inflicted gun shot wound (for example) whilst alone in a hotel room, I'm sure I know what their answer would be.
Due to these organisations now requiring family consent, we now have an unfortunate situation where other families will be even more traumatised by the deaths of their loved ones due to more traumatic suicide methods. I realise that the families who have took legal action and/or complained to the authorities will be very upset about the death of their loved ones at one of these organisations, I get that, but taking legal action and/or complaining to the authorities is not going to bring their loved ones back, what their actions have done is force these organisations to implement family consent, which (like I've already described) is going to cause more suffering for
other people and
other families.
If all these organisations require family consent (I hope there's a way around it somehow, or that Athanasios doesn't require it) then that is forcing more people to have to use more undesirable methods, myself included. I'm obviously biased because I'd rather not have to use SN in a hotel room (or something similar), but if all these companies require family consent then I'll have no choice, and it'll be because of other people complaining that I'll have to do that. If family consent was not required then I am certain that I'd choose to end my life with the help of one of these organisations.
Ultimately, no one wins here, those families who've took legal action (and/or complained to the authorities) have still lost a loved one, the families of those who've had to take more drastic measures now have to mourn an even more traumatic loss of
their loved ones, those of us not willing to continue suffering for much longer have no other option but to use a less desirable method, and those who could not end their life another way (due to fear or whatever) now have to suffer for the rest of their lives. So, unless I'm missing something, there are no winners. I hope these organisations asked the families who took legal action against them (and/or complained to the authorities) what kind of a death they'd have preferred for their loved one, would they have preferred them to die alone in a hotel room from SN poisoning (for example, and show them what that looks like) or in a private clinic in a peaceful and dignified way (I'm sure we know the answer to that), or would they have preferred them to suffer for the rest of their life instead. I'd like to think that being frank with them like that would change their perspectives, and help them to realise that their loved ones actually took the best path possible for themselves, as well as highlighting the fact that the consequences of their actions will only cause more suffering to others.
When the reasons to die far outweigh the reasons to live, the person who is suffering should be able to decide if and when they want to die, period! It really pisses me off when I think of people like poor
@fightclub17 
and the situation she was in, so sad, and I'm sure many of us on here are in similar situations (or worse). I'm sure she would have preferred dying at one of these organisations, and many of us would too.
we're on the same boat here..i have tinn as well
because of tinn, it didn't make tin worse but i got really bad side effects like gastric acid in my stomach, i had to stop it.
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lol, I couldn't sleep again last night even after taking medical canabis, the tinnitus sound was so loud when i lay down and prevented me falling asleep.
, i have sound sensitivity/hyperacusis as well and my tinnitus gets louder when i yawn or open my mouth really wide or yawn. Anyway i really wish i would be able to do how you have successfully habituated your tinnitus.
