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Berlin76

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I just found this documentary on YouTube about a young girl who committed suicide. All her activities were tracked on Instagram by her parents and journalists.
Its shocking but also sad about her suffering.

 
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goomsoom

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I have not watched the whole video. It looks like regular documentaries they make to put blame on someone, everything is Instagram's fault.
 
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Berlin76

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I have not watched the whole video. It looks like regular documentaries they make to put blame on someone, everything is Instagram's fault.

No not only the fault of Instagram for facilitating the group on their platform.
That has some truth in it also.
But also the stupid behavior of teens who are playing tough and say things like:

you did not cut yourself deep enough.
That is so fucking stupid as a competition who is the most sickest
But it also show how close the eyes are on there and here and exit international, by police, journalists who want to do research etc.
 
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No not only the fault of Instagram for facilitating the group on their platform.
That has some truth in it also.
But also the stupid behavior of teens who are playing tough and say things like:

you did not cut yourself deep enough.
That is so fucking stupid as a competition who is the most sickest

agree thats stupid.
But it also show how close the eyes are on there and here and exit international, by police, journalists who want to do research etc.

This is the part I hate forcing us to accept their view of life, all they do is make us isolate ourselves and go further into depression. Talking to someone who I can relate to is different than talking to a professional who are just doing their job. Research on us what we are some lab rats?
 
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Berlin76

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agree thats stupid.


This is the part I hate forcing us to accept their view of life, all they do is make us isolate ourselves and go further into depression. Talking to someone who I can relate to is different than talking to a professional who are just doing their job. Research on us what we are some lab rats?

Mmmmmmmm not really its mostly research for different reasons like who is the dealer. But they are critical about the part people provide to much info or encouragement for suicide. Its logical its seen as a danger for people who still can have a life but are just in a fase with emotions.
 
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Mmmmmmmm not really its mostly research for different reasons like who is the dealer. But they are critical about the part people provide to much info or encouragement for suicide. Its logical its seen as a danger for people who still can have a life but are just in a fase with emotions.
if they investigate people encouraging others to do self harm thats okay. Censoring info and not allowing us (adults) to have a choice is what I disagree with.

Having an exit option, control over my life feels empowering to me.
 
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if they investigate people encouraging others to do self harm thats okay. Censoring info and not allowing us (adults) to have a choice is what I disagree with.

Having an exit option, control over my life feels empowering to me.

Yeah this whole docu was about that young people who have problems psychological can be in more harmful situations because of forrums. They get sucked in even more and when people give info and advice is also causing making the jump more easy for people who are unstable .
 
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for those who don't feel like watching: BBC reporters used a dummy Instagram account to infiltrate the deceased Norwegian girl's followers' private accounts and all the people who interacted with her account. they scoped out 22 girls in the UK and contacted them. just shows how careful you have to be with what you share online. Jesus Christ, good thing i live in a country where no one gives a shit about things like this.

her mother said "if she didn't have Instagram she would've sought more help in real life". i feel sorry for this woman. but her daughter would've likely found some other community that would've pushed her over the edge. whether that is tumblr, twitter, hundreds of other niche communities on various other apps and social media, or SS. i had a few accounts like these i've since deleted, though i still keep one.

do you know how many people killed themselves following the publication of Goethe's Sorrows of Young Werther? should we start banning and burning books again, too? have at it, let me burn at the stake then as well!

they don't mention how she did it. but i imagine that the advice she received helped her to prevent survival with permanent damage. again, sorry to the mother, but the daughter's feelings are more important than hers. yes, she was 17, but i support her in this case. she was struggling with self-harm for a long time. i was this girl a few ago. i still am, and i am still here, but hopefully not for much longer.

you have to be in a pretty bad place to be able to reach communities like these in the first place nowadays, considering how hard social media tries to conceal them. but people will always find a way. if someone is desperate enough to find that way the choice is theirs and theirs alone; no one convinced them to make it.

suicides are just becoming more publicised with the advent of the Internet, especially those of young people. most figures i read have older people (60+) as the group that takes their lives the most. i don't think grandma killed herself because her pot roast didn't get enough likes on Facebook.

remember: don't share pictures, be careful who you interact with and plant plenty of red herrings.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS POWER
 
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Dec 1, 2019
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I think what people are forgetting while they research this kind of stuff, is that some people are beyond help or don't want help or don't want to get better. I have no idea why the world thinks its obligated to try and save every suicidal person.
Are teenagers easily influenced? Yes. But in choices like this I don't think it's so easy. If someone really wants to die, you cannot stop them, regardless of what you say or do.
 
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I just saw an article trying to blame that show "13 reasons why" on some sort of spike in teen suicides. ahhh the blame game. Someone let me know when they start blaming the mental health and pharma industry that acctually holds no answers, just posits and profits margins.
 

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