Relatively painless methods to ctb?

[Bob_Luman]

Hi friends,
I'll cut to the chase and keep this short and simple I want out. But a lot of the methods I have found such as charcoal etc...They seem quite complex to perform and get right. Before I attempt anything I want to have certain or high confidence in what I am doing is indeed set out and planned to what I see as correct. Would somebody be able to give some suggestions and recommendations on what method is relatively painless, if not quick from my perspective and not difficult to set out and understand.

 

[Tasdevil]

if you look at the resource page maybe you can find something. The resource page got plenty of information

 

[medicore]

SN (Sodium nitrite). It's perfectly legal to own in all countries and mass produced as a meat curating substance. Pretty popular on this forum and for a good reason. Check out Stan's guide on SN for a pretty thorough explanation on it all.

In short, SN, when ingested in the suggested dose (~25g) after fasting for a good 8 hours will seep into your intestine, and then into your stomach, where it will be absorbed into your bloodstream and convert your hemoglobin into methemoglobin, which does not carry oxygen. You will then die of hypoxia while breathing without feeling like you're suffocating, since you'd have low CO2 levels. While in this process, your body might try to vomit out the toxic substance, so you would also want to take dopamine-blocking antiemetic drugs beforehand in order to prevent you from retching it all up and failing to ctb. That's about it.

Someone did a documentation on the process, and according to some other sources, you'd be awake for UP TO 40 minutes before you went unconscious, and then would die shortly after. I forgot the exact numbers for when you'd be dead afterwards, but it didn't go past 4 hours. The symptoms are stomach pains and headaches, as well as faster heartbeat and etc, but nothing that's too excruciating or that'd make you cry. Best of luck

 

[Bob_Luman]

SN (Sodium nitrite). It's perfectly legal to own in all countries and mass produced as a meat curating substance. Pretty popular on this forum and for a good reason. Check out Stan's guide on SN for a pretty thorough explanation on it all.

In short, SN, when ingested in the suggested dose (~25g) after fasting for a good 8 hours will seep into your intestine, and then into your stomach, where it will be absorbed into your bloodstream and convert your hemoglobin into methemoglobin, which does not carry oxygen. You will then die of hypoxia while breathing without feeling like you're suffocating, since you'd have low CO2 levels. While in this process, your body might try to vomit out the toxic substance, so you would also want to take dopamine-blocking antiemetic drugs beforehand in order to prevent you from retching it all up and failing to ctb. That's about it.

Someone did a documentation on the process, and according to some other sources, you'd be awake for UP TO 40 minutes before you went unconscious, and then would die shortly after. I forgot the exact numbers for when you'd be dead afterwards, but it didn't go past 4 hours. The symptoms are stomach pains and headaches, as well as faster heartbeat and etc, but nothing that's too excruciating or that'd make you cry. Best of luck

Thanks so much for your reply and suggestion, I will look more into this. Does the SN powder need to be mixed with a certain drink, prior to ingesting?

 

[oneanonymous]

SN (Sodium nitrite). It's perfectly legal to own in all countries and mass produced as a meat curating substance. Pretty popular on this forum and for a good reason. Check out Stan's guide on SN for a pretty thorough explanation on it all.

In short, SN, when ingested in the suggested dose (~25g) after fasting for a good 8 hours will seep into your intestine, and then into your stomach, where it will be absorbed into your bloodstream and convert your hemoglobin into methemoglobin, which does not carry oxygen. You will then die of hypoxia while breathing without feeling like you're suffocating, since you'd have low CO2 levels. While in this process, your body might try to vomit out the toxic substance, so you would also want to take dopamine-blocking antiemetic drugs beforehand in order to prevent you from retching it all up and failing to ctb. That's about it.

Someone did a documentation on the process, and according to some other sources, you'd be awake for UP TO 40 minutes before you went unconscious, and then would die shortly after. I forgot the exact numbers for when you'd be dead afterwards, but it didn't go past 4 hours. The symptoms are stomach pains and headaches, as well as faster heartbeat and etc, but nothing that's too excruciating or that'd make you cry. Best of luck

Man I wish I could do the SN method. It would absolutely be my first choice. Unfortunately, I can't risk taking any kind of dopamine-blocking drug because they cause akathisia and I'm already dealing with it and I have a sensitive stomach, so would no doubt vomit. I mean, the Soviets use to induce akathisia by medication on prisoners as a form of torture and people have jumped off buildings and in front of trains because they developed it, if that gives you any idea of how unbearable is. So if I took it, and then akathisia set in, my last minutes would be absolutely agonizing and just straight up hell. And if something went wrong and I didn't die AND now have worsening akathisia on top of it.. jesus.. I don't even want to think about it.

 

[Deleted-User-0]

Hi friends,
I'll cut to the chase and keep this short and simple I want out. But a lot of the methods I have found such as charcoal etc...They seem quite complex to perform and get right. Before I attempt anything I want to have certain or high confidence in what I am doing is indeed set out and planned to what I see as correct. Would somebody be able to give some suggestions and recommendations on what method is relatively painless, if not quick from my perspective and not difficult to set out and understand.

Inert gases are relatively the most painless methods that's what I'm going to use however the set up could be slightly complicated for a non tech person as there is a tank, regulator, flow reader as well as an exit bag involved. Not that it's rocket science but requires some research and a bit of effort.
SN is a bit of grey area in terms of peacefulness and pain as there aren't many cases around to add towards statistics.

 

[Bob_Luman]

Inert gases are relatively the most painless methods that's what I'm going to use however the set up could be slightly complicated for a non tech person as there is a tank, regulator, flow reader as well as an exit bag involved. Not that it's rocket science but requires some research and a bit of effort.
SN is a bit of grey area in terms of peacefulness and pain as there aren't many cases around to add towards statistics.

Yeah I did look briefly into some of the threads however, because I'm from the U.K the types of equipment and gases involved cannot easily be obtained. I still live with my parents at home so unfortunately this method isnt an option for myself. I found a lot of the information on this site in the threads for inert gases to typically be quite difficult for myself to understand also.

 

[one4all]

Ground zero where a Nuke is detonated

 

[LittleJem]

Yeah I did look briefly into some of the threads however, because I'm from the U.K the types of equipment and gases involved cannot easily be obtained. I still live with my parents at home so unfortunately this method isnt an option for myself. I found a lot of the information on this site in the threads for inert gases to typically be quite difficult for myself to understand also.

The Amitryptiline Cocktail is meant to be good - but it does take maybe 24 hours. You need a lot of Benzos to put you to sleep, and the Amitryptiline stops your heart.

Other than that, Fentanyl sounds promising

I know what you mean re techie solutions - they are all beyond me.

 

[Bob_Luman]

I'll try and look more into SN if I don't understand the steps involved and if it seems too complicated I'll continue to look in the resources section. It's gotten to that point where I feel as though I can't give up searching for the right method now. I have not many friends and no relationship and everybody day in and day out just doesnt even know I'm here it feels like. I'm 19 I still attend college in the U.K but I have very little hope for myself in the future. Tried counselling and it was useless no help at all. It's a lonely and not very pleasant existence. I also have aspergers and learning difficulties which hinder the way I can visualise and understand information that is written and described as opposed to being shown visually in videos etc...
People who I have spoken to such as teachers and the little friends I do have seem to think I'm doing alright but it's difficult to explain to them since everybody perceives the world differently and in their own ways. Life clearly ain't for everybody. Unfortunately even finding a way out an exit door isnt easy. I'm just scared to act on anything until I am confident and certain that it will work and i will be dead. As mentioned i would really like to find something which is relatively painless and quick. I know they do exist since CO2 has many reported instances where survivors have said it didn't hurt. It's just hard man, I can't afford to lose and be a vegetable in hospital.

Man I wish I could do the SN method. It would absolutely be my first choice. Unfortunately, I can't risk taking any kind of dopamine-blocking drug because they cause akathisia and I'm already dealing with it and I have a sensitive stomach, so would no doubt vomit. I mean, the Soviets use to induce akathisia by medication on prisoners as a form of torture and people have jumped off buildings and in front of trains because they developed it, if that gives you any idea of how unbearable is. So if I took it, and then akathisia set in, my last minutes would be absolutely agonizing and just straight up hell. And if something went wrong and I didn't die AND now have worsening akathisia on top of it.. jesus.. I don't even want to think about it.

Wait so if I attempt the SN method and fail I would have akathisia? Do you know what the other damages would be mentally if god forbid somebody was to not perform the steps correctly? Also I'm really sorry to hear of your suffering. I hope you find peace my friend.

 

[Proto]

Inert gases are relatively the most painless methods that's what I'm going to use however the set up could be slightly complicated for a non tech person as there is a tank, regulator, flow reader as well as an exit bag involved. Not that it's rocket science but requires some research and a bit of effort.
SN is a bit of grey area in terms of peacefulness and pain as there aren't many cases around to add towards statistics.

Aren't you a diver? Why don't you use the nitrogen scuba setup instead of the bag?

 

[Deleted-User-0]

Aren't you a diver? Why don't you use the nitrogen scuba setup instead of the bag?

Yes I am. I have actually tried that with 2 different masks the big problem is you need a proper full face diving mask to properly seal the entire face and that costs around $1k with other masks in my experience you get oxygen coming in from unsealed gaps and that would jeopardise the whole thing as you get suffocation feeling due to CO2 build up.
I was thinking to use the mask inside the bag just to pass like a diver but that would be against the KISS (keep it simple, stupid) principle ...

 

[Proto]

Yes I am. I have actually tried that with 2 different masks the big problem is you need a proper full face diving mask to properly seal the entire face and that costs around $1k with other masks in my experience you get oxygen coming in from unsealed gaps and that would jeopardise the whole thing as you get suffocation feeling due to CO2 build up.
I was thinking to use the mask inside the bag just to pass like a diver but that would be against the KISS (keep it simple, stupid) principle ...

I guess this mask won't be up to par to the 1K$ ones? There is one case where a person used this mask and there is a full report of him having successfully done it. I'm also worried if the seal will hold up but i've tested it and it seems to do the job just fine the i can't hear any air escaping but i'm not a diver...

 

[muntyroo]

Yeah I did look briefly into some of the threads however, because I'm from the U.K the types of equipment and gases involved cannot easily be obtained. I still live with my parents at home so unfortunately this method isnt an option for myself. I found a lot of the information on this site in the threads for inert gases to typically be quite difficult for myself to understand also.

I'm in the UK and the whole inert gassed idea looks super but I'm not terrifically mechanical and would just bugger it up! SN for me until I can buy a debreather

 

[Deleted-User-0]

I guess this mask won't be up to par to the 1K$ ones? There is one case where a person used this mask and there is a full report of him having successfully done it.

Is this your? Goddamn I wish I had one of those. Where did you get it and for how much? Damn I got so excited.
Yes I have read that case many times he used a proper diving mask.

 

[Deleted-User-0]

Here's the links to the supplies i bought (i have a different scuba stage 1+2 it's from apeks). But the mask is really affordable only 58$

mask
adapter/connector
Stage 1 regulator + stage 2 rebreather

Thanks a lot I PM you.

 

[muntyroo]

I always fancied free diving and wondered if you could just descend and let go...but some bastard would rescue you.

 

[Deleted-User-0]

I always fancied free diving and wondered if you could just descend and let go...but some bastard would rescue you.

In my experience this would be theoretically impossible. Your body and SI would do whatever is needed to bring you back up as the suffocation panic kicks in due to CO2 build up in your body. Saying that the thought is so awesome ...

 

[jgm63]

I'll try and look more into SN if I don't understand the steps involved and if it seems too complicated I'll continue to look in the resources section. It's gotten to that point where I feel as though I can't give up searching for the right method now. I have not many friends and no relationship and everybody day in and day out just doesnt even know I'm here it feels like. I'm 19 I still attend college in the U.K but I have very little hope for myself in the future. Tried counselling and it was useless no help at all. It's a lonely and not very pleasant existence. I also have aspergers and learning difficulties which hinder the way I can visualise and understand information that is written and described as opposed to being shown visually in videos etc...
People who I have spoken to such as teachers and the little friends I do have seem to think I'm doing alright but it's difficult to explain to them since everybody perceives the world differently and in their own ways. Life clearly ain't for everybody. Unfortunately even finding a way out an exit door isnt easy. I'm just scared to act on anything until I am confident and certain that it will work and i will be dead. As mentioned i would really like to find something which is relatively painless and quick. I know they do exist since CO2 has many reported instances where survivors have said it didn't hurt. It's just hard man, I can't afford to lose and be a vegetable in hospital.

Wait so if I attempt the SN method and fail I would have akathisia? Do you know what the other damages would be mentally if god forbid somebody was to not perform the steps correctly? Also I'm really sorry to hear of your suffering. I hope you find peace my friend.

Taking meto (antiemetic) can cause EPS in some people, but it's rare. You can test by starting out with 5mg, and build up, to see if you tolerate meto okay. If you did experience EPS, it would not be permanent.

This post has some information :

Spoiler: post-517024

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/post-517024

That thread is about N rather than SN, but the anti-emetic regime is the same for N and SN.

Note : In general, for SN, you should have a read of Stan's guide :

Spoiler: sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148/

Here's the links to the supplies i bought (i have a different scuba stage 1+2 it's from apeks). But the mask is really affordable only 57$

We're not supposed to post direct links on public threads, especially when it comes to sourcing of products, etc.
Such things should be exchanged in PM messages.
Could you please edit your post and remove those links ?
Instead, you can just state the types of products....

 

[medicore]

Wait so if I attempt the SN method and fail I would have akathisia? Do you know what the other damages would be mentally if god forbid somebody was to not perform the steps correctly?

To my understanding, some antiemetic drugs are known to cause akathisia in large doses. Should you fail your SN dose, it isn't very likely that you'll fall victim to that. Most likely you'll just suffer from a lot of vomiting, headaches and stomach aches, and some very uncomfortable sweating. They're prescription drugs for people, so they don't tend to cause torturous side effects too often lol. See jgm63's post for some more confirmation on the rarity of these cases and such. I'm pretty sure one of the large appeals of SN is that failing doesn't result in many consequences, unless you happen to be found 15 minutes short of brain death (which is really, really unlikely and would probably only happen if you did something like this on impulse and without a plan).

Man I wish I could do the SN method. It would absolutely be my first choice. Unfortunately, I can't risk taking any kind of dopamine-blocking drug because they cause akathisia and I'm already dealing with it and I have a sensitive stomach, so would no doubt vomit.

I suggest that you read into the inert gas method mentioned by Diver_K_A just now. It's pretty similar to SN's method of killing, though it's hard to set up as people have stated. You might also want to consider taking SN without an antiemetic, and using something physical (like duct tape) to keep you from vomiting while you're sitting in the middle of a deep pool or the ocean or something. ~15 minutes of really uncomfortable swallowing, but it would work. Of course, you could always use alternative forms of making yourself pass out in the middle of a pool, such as alcohol. Pretty common method, and pretty dang foolproof if you're doing it out at sea.

 

[Bob_Luman]

To my understanding, some antiemetic drugs are known to cause akathisia in large doses. Should you fail your SN dose, it isn't very likely that you'll fall victim to that. Most likely you'll just suffer from a lot of vomiting, headaches and stomach aches, and some very uncomfortable sweating. They're prescription drugs for people, so they don't tend to cause torturous side effects too often lol. See jgm63's post for some more confirmation on the rarity of these cases and such. I'm pretty sure one of the large appeals of SN is that failing doesn't result in many consequences, unless you happen to be found 15 minutes short of brain death (which is really, really unlikely and would probably only happen if you did something like this on impulse and without a plan).


I suggest that you read into the inert gas method mentioned by Diver_K_A just now. It's pretty similar to SN's method of killing, though it's hard to set up as people have stated. You might also want to consider taking SN without an antiemetic, and using something physical (like duct tape) to keep you from vomiting while you're sitting in the middle of a deep pool or the ocean or something. ~15 minutes of really uncomfortable swallowing, but it would work. Of course, you could always use alternative forms of making yourself pass out in the middle of a pool, such as alcohol. Pretty common method, and pretty dang foolproof if you're doing it out at sea.

The only thing which worries me about not taking the antiemetic beforehand is if you've ever watched Breaking Bad and you see how Jane dies from vomiting in her sleep I hope that wouldn't happen to us if we decided to not take the pills first.

 

[medicore]

The only thing which worries me about not taking the antiemetic beforehand is if you've ever watched Breaking Bad and you see how Jane dies from vomiting in her sleep I hope that wouldn't happen to us if we decided to not take the pills first.

Personally, I would have no problem drowning in my own vomit, given that I didn't actually feel it of course. I don't want a peaceful-looking corpse, just a peaceful one. I can see why others wouldn't want to look like a big mess when they were found though.

 

[Bob_Luman]

if you look at the resource page maybe you can find something. The resource page got plenty of information

Do you know where I can find the resources section? I'm new to this site so I'm not sure where everything is.

 

[Cantbereal]

Akathesia is no joke