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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,662
While I don't ever post on reddit anymore due to it's censorship, I do frequent the TTG subreddit from time to time and here is a thread that I have found to be quite the read. It explains why suicide prevention is more harmful than anything.

Also, the quoted post below is a good post as well.
I thoroughly enjoy bashing/undermining the efforts of people who support "suicide prevention". (I specifically mean the people who believe that they are entitled to use involuntary force to prevent suicide and violate the freedoms of depressed or suicidal people)

One of the multiple reasons "suicide prevention" exists, is because suicide is offensive to the ego of people who are fanatically obsessed with this pathetic idea that everyone's life can be better, or that under no circumstance are you "allowed to end your own life" (as if slavery is still a thing, even though that's illegal and your body/existence is not property of the state).

Suicide gives you the ultimate power, the power to choose between life/death for yourself, the power to terminate the ability of life in society/this world/etc to affect you. The ability of the individual to freely choose to stop participating in life, makes some people pissed, probably jealous even.

These people are hilariously pathetic virtue signalers who always hide behind mediocre double standard arguments, acting like suicide (dying voluntarily by choice) is a tragedy that needs to be prevented (with violent use of police force/hospital staff/etc to violate the person's freedom of movement and ability to decide for themselves) but at the same time will allow poor/homeless people to die involuntarily from lack of money.

If someone is serious about wanting to protect their right to die, they must never be TOO OPEN with friends or family, never tell any "professionals", never call any hotline numbers, etc, in order to avoid/escape any extreme risk of being involuntarily forced into a hilariously pathetic "mental health system" that treats depressed/suicidal people like criminals.

Anyone who calls the police/etc or initiates the use of involuntary force against a depressed/suicidal person (being depressed or suicidal is not a crime) should be forced to pay 100% of all medical bills. I'm not going to pay any money to any police or any hospital or any person involved with violating my freedom to decide what happens with my life, i'm not going to pay for any "help" or "treatment" forced upon me against my will, so if I was ever to be dragged to the hospital or a psych ward by cops who have no right to use involuntary force/detainment against me when I have committed no crime, i'd just laugh in their face when they try to hand me a bill afterwards.

I did not give my consent to being born, so I reserve the right to opt out of existence for whatever reason I want and whenever I want, without the consent of people who are offended by suicide. "Suicide prevention" (as long as it includes involuntary force) is a joke.

One final note, these people are even more pathetic because they want to use violent force to interfere with individual's suicide/freedom of choice, but they don't want to prevent or address any of the circumstances that push people towards suicide in the first place. They don't want to address poverty/boring hated jobs or poor working conditions/social or cultural issues/physical or psychological abuse/etc. No police officer, no "psychiatrist", is going to fix my poverty or my boring hated job or the trauma from physical/emotional abuse, or my social isolation/loneliness/etc.

Also another one that sums up how selfish most pro-lifers and the majority of people in the world are:

Saying you don't want someone to commit suicide is like saying, "Hey, I know you're suffering, but can you stay a bit longer so I can feel better?"
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

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Mar 23, 2018
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While I don't ever post on reddit anymore due to it's censorship, I do frequent the TTG subreddit from time to time and here is a thread that I have found to be quite the read. It explains why suicide prevention is more harmful than anything.

Also, the quoted post below is a good post as well.


Also another one that sums up how selfish most pro-lifers and the majority of people in the world are:
That was awesome !!! :smiling:
I don't visit TTG very much anymore. I feel safer here. I also don't like the censorship either. I don't even know if you can mention this site there.
There used to be a link to this site from there but I think it was removed.
It truly is sad that people think we "Must" stay here so they won't be sad. :angry:
 
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crimea_river

crimea_river

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May 27, 2019
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That was awesome !!! :smiling:
I don't visit TTG very much anymore. I feel safer here. I also don't like the censorship either. I don't even know if you can mention this site there.
There used to be a link to this site from there but I think it was removed.
It truly is sad that people think we "Must" stay here so they won't be sad. :angry:
Reddit's ridiculously censored/moderated these days (across all subs), I learnt of this site on there, but that was because somebody told me about it in PM. I'm pretty sure you won't get away with mentioning this site on that platform.

It all goes against what attracted people to Reddit in the first place, their free speech mission's been discarded, I assume with a view to making the platform more attractive to investors.
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

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Mar 23, 2018
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Reddit's ridiculously censored/moderated these days (across all subs), I learnt of this site on there, but that was because somebody told me about it in PM. I'm pretty sure you won't get away with mentioning this site on that platform.

It all goes against what attracted people to Reddit in the first place, their free speech mission's been discarded, I assume with a view to making the platform more attractive to investors.

It's sad what's happened over there. I started on Reddit a few years ago … I think. It wasn't even on the S.S. Board. I found that through the Anti-Natalist board, I think.
I wouldn't mention this site over there, I don't want to be banned from there... even if I don't visit often.
 
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jake3d

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Holy crap that's deep. I'd give you 10 upvotes if i could.
 
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Conflicted Cat

Conflicted Cat

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May 23, 2019
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Boy is this one big truth bomb...

I used to lurk TTG, but don't anymore because I found this place.
 
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SinisterKid

SinisterKid

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Jun 1, 2019
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Thank you for posting the link to that piece, it was well worth taking the time to read. Its a dedicated argument against the way society views suicidal people and how they are treated.

This should be compulsory reading for anyone remotely connected to suicide prevention.
 
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bhav

Member
Mar 23, 2019
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Interesting post. I think some people don't want you to commit suicide because they legitimately care about you, though. I think the main issue is that most people see life as this fragile, one time thing that should be celebrated, when really, we don't know what happens after we die, and there are people who struggle to live life in a way that makes them happy, and those people should have the free choice to end their life if they wish to.
 
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NextSummer

NextSummer

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Mar 28, 2019
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They think being suicidal is a temporary state and think they are saving people from making a fatal mistake. There are former suicidal people that support their campaigning and this gives them more energy. The sad thing is, they are saving SOME people on the cost of forcing real suffering people to stay. I don't think they are sadists, it's just, there has never been somebody challenging their position.

I think most of them realize that they can not save everybody. So they just focus on the ones who lightfully play with their lives - on our costs. They value them higher than us.
 
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LMFAO FOCKERS

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May 26, 2019
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They think being suicidal is a temporary state and think they are saving people from making a fatal mistake. There are former suicidal people that support their campaigning and this gives them more energy. The sad thing is, they are saving SOME people on the cost of forcing real suffering people to stay. I don't think they are sadists, it's just, there has never been somebody challenging their position.

I think most of them realize that they can not save everybody. So they just focus on the ones who lightfully play with their lives - on our costs. They value them higher than us.

The main problem is that pro-lifers and psych practictioners don't differentiate between suicidal ideations stemming from 1) situational depression vs. 2) chronic depression as a result of mental illness. They lump everyone into one category. The mental health field is a joke. And there is noone doing research on it because it doesn't aid the profession itself nor the profits of Big Pharma.
 
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Oct 27, 2018
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While I don't ever post on reddit anymore due to it's censorship, I do frequent the TTG subreddit from time to time and here is a thread that I have found to be quite the read. It explains why suicide prevention is more harmful than anything.

Also, the quoted post below is a good post as well.


Also another one that sums up how selfish most pro-lifers and the majority of people in the world are:

Currently applauding this post.
 
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Vegrau

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Nov 27, 2018
665
Pro lifer are truly the blight and cancer of this sick and wretched society. Every part of them are dripping with disease thoughts and delusions.
 
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LifeIsNotFun

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Jun 1, 2019
530
The reddit user has a brain, thank goodness. For the most part Reddit is full of morons. lol.
 
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Deleted member 1768

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Aug 15, 2018
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Thank you for posting the link to that piece, it was well worth taking the time to read. Its a dedicated argument against the way society views suicidal people and how they are treated.

This should be compulsory reading for anyone remotely connected to suicide prevention.
I am not religious, but...Amen...smile.
 
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ExitTheDay

We fight to live or live to die
May 26, 2019
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Great post, agree with everything
 
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memento_mori

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Mar 28, 2019
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I used to lurk reddit suicide watch and depression because I didn't know where to look, didn't feel like I fit in there with all those pro life comments. SS feels more like a home to me as people are more like minded here and understand each others pain/ suffering.
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,662
I used to lurk reddit suicide watch and depression because I didn't know where to look, didn't feel like I fit in there with all those pro life comments. SS feels more like a home to me as people are more like minded here and understand each others pain/ suffering.
Indeed. I didn't like r/SW or r/depression because it was all about platitudes, uplifting, and then a whole circle-jerk of toxic positivity (I know it sounds paradoxical saying 'toxic positivity' but overbearing positivity can be just as toxic as extreme negativity). It's just so aggravating to have people try to sell you the idea that 'life is great' and to ignore all the bad things. They are oftenly not in line with reality nor open minded. If they only took a stance of understanding that 'suicide' is an option rather than outright denying it to be option or an escape and even going as far as to preventing it at all costs, they would have fared better. Sadly, that will never (likely) happen as long as reddit's censorship remains and the majority are still living in the pro-life, anti-choice, anti-suicide society.
 
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