Reasons to live

[darkenmydoorstep]

I saw a list of someone's reasons to live.
It was stuff like 'nature walks', 'hot chocolate' and 'good architecture'.
What???? I thought.
Cause they aren't really 'reasons to live', are they? They are pleasant things to help get you through the task of living, experiences that lessen the pain. To say that 'hot chocolate' is a reason to live is like saying a free uniform in a pretty colour is a reason for doing a job.

My only reason to live is that dying is too painful and unreliable to initiate. That's it. The sole reason I am here. And once it isn't, once I'm assured an absolute, pain free exit……then I'm gone.

How about you?

 

[NonEssential]

I love my family and my pets so the decision is kinda difficult.

 

[FuneralCry]

I only continue to suffer as I lack the option to painlessly cease existing as well, it's so horrific to me how trying to die can go wrong and lead to way worse suffering, I wish for the option to simply cease existing in peace and never suffer ever again as I find it deeply undesirable to exist and non-existence is all I could ever hope for. I'd always prefer to not exist than be burdened with this existence of unnecessary suffering just to be tortured by old age and die anyway, I see so much cruelty in how the option of a guaranteed, painless way to cease existing is denied with suffering seen as to always prolong instead.

 

[tirednwired]

I think when people say they'll miss things like hot chocolate and walks they're actually talking about the positive feelings that doing those things creates. Moments like that in a life full of bleakness can make even the saddest people feel hopeful about the future. So what they'll really miss is chasing that feeling that deep down things might get better. But maybe I'm wrong lol

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yeah, true. I share the same view. A bit like a long train journey really. The journey is uncomfortable, overcrowded and expensive. The destination isn't worth the effort but sure- every now and again, there's a nice view out the window or, someone sells you something nice to drink. Doesn't make the whole experience viable!

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

i wonder if i ask them would you go through six hours of the most extreme pain and torture for your 'nature walks', 'hot chocolate' and 'good architecture' . just 6 hours or even 6 minutes i doubt it. what about 6 years of every second the worst pain imaginable ?

all that garbage 'nature walks', 'hot chocolate' and 'good architecture' and similar bs is meaningless anyway even if there weren't pain so bad 1 minute of it makes everything else meaningless. even if there were no suffering all that crap is meaningless. i don't need nor want any of those meaningless pleasurable addictions. but there is pain there is suffering there is torture so bad that even seeing someone else go through with it is unbearable much less to be immersed in that hell. you don't want 1 second of the worst life of the worst torture much less a day or 60 years of it which is very possible to any sentient creature as we all have the same torture mechanism a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain

i don't see any objective reason to have to live another minute. i see every reason for me to exit this hellscape nightmare asap

boggles my mind no one brings it up that they are ok with being a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain for no objective reason and to have to work so hard to exist as such and that all the meaningless bs somehow makes it worth the worst pain .

a human is a brain. a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain is a torture machine. a human is a torture machine a torture chamber but i've never seen anybody say this much less say that it's not ok to be a torture chamber .

i think the pleasurable addictions are worse than the daily mild suffering like chores problems work streess. it's the pleasurable addictions like youtube news social media that keep me distracted from reality that this is a hellscape and that i need to get working on getting my suicicide plan ready to go,. the daily mild suffering like washing clothes , cringe , boredum should give me a clue to that this is a nightmare torture waiting to happen . then there is another level of suffering like a week long bad flu where i couldn't stop coughing etc . that gave me a clue that this is utter hell. the extreme pain of me trying to do minor surgery with a needle another level of more intense pain than the bad flu gave me the insight pain is a billion times worse than you can imagine or remember. but there is pain worse than that and longer lasting constant extrreme pain extreme torture : i am afraid of this nightmare called life . closer to reality is a face of pure trerror mouth open agape in a voiceless scream of shell shocked terror like a torture victim with pieces of the skin torn off in many places : can they now enjoy a dumb nature walk or a hot choclate is that worth more torture

i think evolution and culture society movies tv shows media have programmed humans to think that all these addictions are fun and important. some might get pleausre cause repeatedly got addicted to them but they are meaningless while the extreme pain and suffering possible is much more intense and longer lasting
fuck architecture . non-existence forever is the only perfection where there can never be any suffering never any pain , the only bliss

 

[yearofluigi]

Reading this poem kinda made me mad for the exact same reasons you're describing, lol. Sure I can go for a walk and look at the dogs or the orange trees or whatever but I'd be way way way too busy drowning in my anxiety to actually enjoy it.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

My same reaction is also: what????? I get that there are pleasurable things and all that but are these things really worth having to deal with work and chores for most of your life? I personally think that it doesn't. And that's just the average life. It could be possible to get a life which contains a significant amount of pain and misery due to life's mere chances and whims. I personally think that the negatives have significantly more weight than the positives and that most things are "positive" in the first place to counteract a negative feeling that came prior to it. I'll admit that I do have good feelings but, to me, I'd rather ctb asap as preventing the future bad feelings is more important to me than perpetuating the good feelings. I'm only alive right now because it isn't my time to take the bus yet

 

[whyidon'tknow]

My only reason to live is to not hurt others.

 

[human909]

If they are using reasons like hot chocolate to live that just shows how boring life is, I mean why? I am absolutely sick of life and just saying hot chocolate isn't gonna get me to stay I don't think anything is. I mean why even put a post like that if all they are gonna say is hot chocolate and nature walks.

 

[darkenmydoorstep]

If they are using reasons like hot chocolate to live that just shows how boring life is, I mean why? I am absolutely sick of life and just saying hot chocolate isn't gonna get me to stay I don't think anything is. I mean why even put a post like that if all they are gonna say is hot chocolate and nature walks.

I read it (on Fb) and just felt even more sorry for her than I had before. It was as though she was trying to convince herself…and failing badly.

If they are using reasons like hot chocolate to live that just shows how boring life is, I mean why? I am absolutely sick of life and just saying hot chocolate isn't gonna get me to stay I don't think anything is. I mean why even put a post like that if all they are gonna say is hot chocolate and nature walks.

The list was boring as hell. Had the opposite effect to the one I think she intended tbh.

My only reason to live is to not hurt others.

Yes, that's noble….. I wish I gave a shit

 

[TheHolySword]

Most of these kinds of lists are just generic feel good bullshit for white suburban moms to spread on social media and pretend they're deep. But sometimes it's someone who has nothing and is trying to find any reason to keep going. Maybe looking forward to that hot chocolate is their only hope right now. I dunno, humanity is complicated. We might not see it as a reason to live but not everyone is gonna agree on what keeps them going, it's personal. Some people want to live and they'll find any reason they can. To some people, pains of life are worth it when they go out and experience the beauty of nature.

 

[ma0]

There is no reason for me to still be here. I have zero true emotional connection to any other human, after all these years, so how they'd feel after I'm gone is none of my concern.

I'm just too scared to actually go ahead with my plan. SI is fucking ruthless, and I'm just trying to demolish it at the moment.



As for these reasons in the facebook mom saying? They just fucking googled "list of pleasant human experiences" and went from there. You may as well be saying you don't want to die because "Q-Tip in ear feel good" or "To step on crunchy leaf"

Can people just fucking listen first and understand our worldview instead of offering the stock image equivalent of "ThInG tO mAkE yOu HaPpY"?

 

[darkenmydoorstep]

Most of these kinds of lists are just generic feel good bullshit for white suburban moms to spread on social media and pretend they're deep. But sometimes it's someone who has nothing and is trying to find any reason to keep going. Maybe looking forward to that hot chocolate is their only hope right now. I dunno, humanity is complicated. We might not see it as a reason to live but not everyone is gonna agree on what keeps them going, it's personal. Some people want to live and they'll find any reason they can. To some people, pains of life are worth it when they go out and experience the beauty of nature.

Yes, I guess it's highly subjective. I think a lot of the time such lists are people trying to convince themselves as much as anything but they can come across so superficial can't they?

 

[soonnotkoei]

to be fair, hot chocolate is pretty good.

but seriously, what a bunch of bs. i would've taken it more seriously if the reasons were something believable like having loved ones or something.
like 'good architecture'?? lmao.