Venting Really anxious about getting permenant brain damage from SN

[fedupwithlife]

I'm really scared

 

[Darkover]

what other choice is there either you do something to end life or keep on living this misery
SN is very worrying for me as i don't want to fail a attempt

 

[fedupwithlife]

what other choice is there either you do something to end or life or keep on living this misery
SN is very worrying for me as i don't want to fail a attempt

Its sad it really boils down to this

 

[アホペンギン]

There's a possibility to get brain damage from every ctb method. You just need to be willing to take the risk. SN is the best option because its the most peaceful method.

 

[befree]

SN is the best option because its the most peaceful method.

Not true.
peaceful: 50/50 chance
reliable: 60-70%

 

[fedupwithlife]

Not true.
peaceful: 50/50 chance
reliable: 60-70%

So there's a better option? What would that be (besides Nembutal)

 

[befree]

So there's a better option? What would that be (besides Nembutal)

There are not many methods where there is little or no risk of having permanent brain damage.
High risk to have permanent brain damage if you fail: SN, CO, inert gases, carotid method, hanging, overdoses (e.g. benzos)

I would use a method that is known to be successful. If a method has a high chance of being successful, the risk of permanent brain damage also decreases. I would use SCUBA or SCBA, because the risk/success ratio is very good.

 

[thebookofdisquiet]

You have a risk of damaging your brain if any method fails. If you're trying to achieve oxygen deprivation (hanging, drowning, sn), if you cut or shoot yourself but survive (shooting your head is self explanatory but losing too much blood before being rescued can also damage your brain), jumping...so @befree is right, the only advice is choosing a method harder to fail.

 

[アホペンギン]

Not true.
peaceful: 50/50 chance
reliable: 60-70%

Well, yes, but according to most people who i come across they don't suffer as much as they do with other methods. And i'm just saying that SN is the most peaceful method because its the most available peaceful method. There is of course CO poisoning or barbiturates which are more peaceful in my opinion.

 

[SenseOfLoss]

I think the chance of surviving this is not very high. I had closer contact with three people here via pm and all three left with SN. One of them tested SN and took 1-2 mg. She wrote me that she already fainted relatively quickly from this small amount.... (Anyway, It broke my heart...)

 

[Eternal Sleep!]

There are not many methods where there is little or no risk of having permanent brain damage.
High risk to have permanent brain damage if you fail: SN, CO, inert gases, carotid method, hanging, overdoses (e.g. benzos)

I would use a method that is known to be successful. If a method has a high chance of being successful, the risk of permanent brain damage also decreases. I would use SCUBA or SCBA, because the risk/success ratio is very good.

I overdosed on benzos (Diazepam) with some alcohol, I took about 80 pills, no brain damage whatsoever. I also red stories on here doing SN, failed the attempt with zero brain damage. So it could lead to brain damage, it's not automatically true you get brain damage, there's just a chance and many factors come in to play if you suffer brain damage or not.

 

[CW36]

SN is not as successful as some other methods and is by no means quicker. P is rarely peaceful and next to nothing will be. Is the reward worth the risk, think hard.

 

[Eternal Sleep!]

You have a risk of damaging your brain if any method fails. If you're trying to achieve oxygen deprivation (hanging, drowning, sn), if you cut or shoot yourself but survive (shooting your head is self explanatory but losing too much blood before being rescued can also damage your brain), jumping...so @befree is right, the only advice is choosing a method harder to fail.

If you do drowning right with heavy weights on your feet and with no ability to untie them you just can't fail. I think the succes rate must be 100% that you die.

 

[thebookofdisquiet]

If you do drowning right with heavy weights on your feet and with no ability to untie them you just can't fail. I think the succes rate must be 100% that you die.

I agree but I can't even imagine how. Do you walk into a deep secluded lake with the weights on? Jump from a boat (can't imagine swimming until a deep part with heavy weights) into the sea? Try to be discreet and do it in a pool?

 

[Eternal Sleep!]

SN is not as successful as some other methods and is by no means quicker. P is rarely peaceful and next to nothing will be. Is the reward worth the risk, think hard.

What is P?

 

[CW36]

What is P?

Poisoning.

 

[fedupwithlife]

SN is not as successful as some other methods and is by no means quicker. P is rarely peaceful and next to nothing will be. Is the reward worth the risk, think hard.

I think it's pretty successful but not very peaceful

 

[CW36]

I think it's pretty successful but not very peaceful

It's more successful than some methods, but much less reliable than others. You were worried about failing, so that's the angle. Question is how confident are you?

 

[fedupwithlife]

It's more successful than some methods, but much less reliable than others. You were worried about failing, so that's the angle. Question is how confident are you?

I think theres no going back after drinking the thing so if I can plan things really well it'll hopefully work

 

[Justnotme]

I overdosed on benzos (Diazepam) with some alcohol, I took about 80 pills, no brain damage whatsoever. I also red stories on here doing SN, failed the attempt with zero brain damage. So it could lead to brain damage, it's not automatically true you get brain damage, there's just a chance and many factors come in to play if you suffer brain damage or not.

Tell me, please, did you lose consciousness after taking 80 pills? What were your symptoms and after what time did you lose consciousness? (if you lost consciousness)
Someone found you and they called an ambulance for you? And if so, how long did they find you?
And can you please tell me the name of these pills?
And did you feel bad after taking the pills or after being rescued?

I will be grateful for your answers.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Follow the protocol (e.g. Stan's protocol) and the chances are very low to wake up with brain damage. I know the fear of failure is a beast,but following proven protocols reduces the failure rate a lot. I hope you can find peace!

 

[CW36]

I think theres no going back after drinking the thing so if I can plan things really well it'll hopefully work

Well I wish you the best.

 

[befree]

And i'm just saying that SN is the most peaceful method because its the most available peaceful method.

You are mixing two completely different aspects. A method is not "the most peaceful method" just because many people claim SN is peaceful or because SN is easy to get.

Everything you need for the inert gas methods (SCUBA, SCBA, EEBD hood, exit bag, ReBreather) or CO is easy to get worldwide, unless you are living in the middle of a jungle.

Two video livestreams confirmed my opinion that I would never use SN !

 

[アホペンギン]

You are mixing two completely different aspects. A method is not "the most peaceful method" just because many people claim SN is peaceful or because SN is easy to get.

Everything you need for the inert gas methods (SCUBA, SCBA, EEBD hood, exit bag, ReBreather) or CO is easy to get worldwide, unless you are living in the middle of a jungle.

Two video livestreams confirmed my opinion that I would never use SN !

Which method will you use then?

 

[willitpass]

I attempted with SN in 2020 and survived. It required CPR. Once they administered methalyn blue I was almost fully recovered within a few hours. I have never been officially tested but I do believe I have mild brain damage from the period of time where I needed CPR. My attention span is almost nonexistent and my memory are shit. Other than that there have been no noticeable differences in my level of functioning.

 

[befree]

Which method will you use then?

If I would decide to CTB I would chose VAD or SCUBA.

 

[thebookofdisquiet]

I attempted with SN in 2020 and survived. It required CPR. Once they administered methalyn blue I was almost fully recovered within a few hours. I have never been officially tested but I do believe I have mild brain damage from the period of time where I needed CPR. My attention span is almost nonexistent and my memory are shit. Other than that there have been no noticeable differences in my level of functioning.

What went wrong? Or the problem was being found?

 

[painful existence]

I attempted with SN in 2020 and survived. It required CPR. Once they administered methalyn blue I was almost fully recovered within a few hours. I have never been officially tested but I do believe I have mild brain damage from the period of time where I needed CPR. My attention span is almost nonexistent and my memory are shit. Other than that there have been no noticeable differences in my level of functioning.

Could you please tell us what went wrong

 

[Minsu]

So there's a better option? What would that be (besides Nembutares

Rebrthr 3

 

[befree]

it could lead to brain damage

This fact alone, and the lower chance of success and peacefulness compared to inert gas, should make you think whether SN is the right method.