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Raising awareness about the ugly truth about mental illnesses and suicides.

In response of undecuted people thinking it's easy to save people by simply running their mouth and tongues.

"Why don't you find a 100% **scientific** cure preventing any relapse , for every "*mental*" debilitating and life sucking illnesses and give a real plan to save someone backed with proof /insurance before talking like it's easy and taking responsibility for his wellbeing or paying the price and compensate the person for giving him a false hope and wrecking him onto utter despair when you, fail ?
I may sound like an asshole, but you are being a superficial uneducated hypocrite by mistakingly thinking this world permit that and is so damn nice.
You are contributing in denying their struggle just to stay alive and pushing them Unconsciously and implicitly into killing themselves, by telling them "oh but it is so damn easy".
Just stop.
You are just being utterly selfish and doing this just to satisfy your ego and conscience to feel like "yeah I did ThE Right ThiNG" "so praISE Me".

Reminder of this bleak world :




This current day treatments are unreliable, unpredictible, hypothetical and not even fully scientific.

Science still hasn't cracked down the brain secrets and still hasn't found any sure way to save everyone since it still can't interfere with the brains function.

Antidépressant are **supposed** to change the brain chemicals. (impossible to monitor and predict its efficacity in this day )

How ect works remain a total mystery since it's **supposed** to reset brain chemistery by electrical impulse while stimulating the brain activity . (impossible to monitor in this day and predict its consequence ).

Therapy is **supposed** to clear the brain from trauma and helping recovery while some have not any shred of traumas.

And as I repeated myself everything are nothing but mere **suppositions** not fully backed by science.

Ketamine and psylocibin (present in magic shrooms) is are "supposed" to help you in promoting the formation of new neuronal pathways (impossible to tell how this really work and calibrate nor guiding to be a definite cure in this day and still in the research stage).

Some families are "mentally sick" from parents to child and the illness flowing in their bloodline, implying and a **genetic factor**.

Some are inherently immune to it wathever happens, also implying a **genetic factor**.

And these are the only fact proven by science.

Also remembers that the current treatments **mess** with your **brain** and can leave you lifelong **brain damage.**


So do us and the **sick** a favor, while some can get "saved", some cannot and are drowning in despair before taking their life.

Please respect the memory of the struggling people and the deceased one.

We don't live in a fairy tale.

Curing yourself is akin to gambling.

It would be great to have a miracle vaccine but we **haven't** in this current day and age."
 
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I agree with you. We need to explore alternative treatment options, such as psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms as well as ketamine. According to the studies I've read they have enormous potential but they're barely accessible or straight up illegal where I live.
 
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Oct 6, 2019
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Raising awareness about the ugly truth about mental illnesses and suicides.

In response of undecuted people thinking it's easy to save people by simply running their mouth and tongues.

"Why don't you find a 100% **scientific** cure preventing any relapse , for every "*mental*" debilitating and life sucking illnesses and give a real plan to save someone backed with proof /insurance before talking like it's easy and taking responsibility for his wellbeing or paying the price and compensate the person for giving him a false hope and wrecking him onto utter despair when you, fail ?
I may sound like an asshole, but you are being a superficial uneducated hypocrite by mistakingly thinking this world permit that and is so damn nice.
You are contributing in denying their struggle just to stay alive and pushing them Unconsciously and implicitly into killing themselves, by telling them "oh but it is so damn easy".
Just stop.
You are just being utterly selfish and doing this just to satisfy your ego and conscience to feel like "yeah I did ThE Right ThiNG" "so praISE Me".

Reminder of this bleak word :




This current day treatments are unreliable, unpredictible, hypothetical and not even fully scientific.

Science still hasn't cracked down the brain secrets and still hasn't found any sure way to save everyone since it still can't interfere with the brains function.

Antidépressant are **supposed** to change the brain chemicals. (impossible to monitor and predict its efficacity in this day )

How ect works remain a total mystery since it's **supposed** to reset brain chemistery by electrical impulse while stimulating the brain activity . (impossible to monitor in this day and predict its consequence ).

Therapy is **supposed** to clear the brain from trauma and helping recovery while some have not any shred of traumas.

And I repeated myself everything are **suppositions** not fully backed by science.

Ketamine and psylocibin (present in magic shrooms) is are "supposed" to help you in promoting the formation of new neuronal pathways (impossible to tell how this really work and calibrate nor guiding to be a definite cure in this day and still in the research stage).

Some families are "mentally sick" from parents to child and the illness flowing in their bloodline, implying and a **genetic factor**.

Some are inherently immune to it wathever happens, also implying a **genetic factor**.

And these are the only fact proven by science.

Also remembers that the current treatments **mess** with your **brain** and can leave you lifelong **brain damage.**


So do us and the **sick** a favor, while some can get "saved", some cannot and are drowning in despair before taking their life.

Please respect the memory of the struggling people and the deceased one.

We don't live in a fairy tale.

Curing yourself is akin to gambling.

It would be great to have a miracle vaccine but we **haven't** in this current day and age."
Well stated :heart: :hug:
 
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Raising awareness about the ugly truth about mental illnesses and suicides.

In response of undecuted people thinking it's easy to save people by simply running their mouth and tongues.

"Why don't you find a 100% **scientific** cure preventing any relapse , for every "*mental*" debilitating and life sucking illnesses and give a real plan to save someone backed with proof /insurance before talking like it's easy and taking responsibility for his wellbeing or paying the price and compensate the person for giving him a false hope and wrecking him onto utter despair when you, fail ?
I may sound like an asshole, but you are being a superficial uneducated hypocrite by mistakingly thinking this world permit that and is so damn nice.
You are contributing in denying their struggle just to stay alive and pushing them Unconsciously and implicitly into killing themselves, by telling them "oh but it is so damn easy".
Just stop.
You are just being utterly selfish and doing this just to satisfy your ego and conscience to feel like "yeah I did ThE Right ThiNG" "so praISE Me".

Reminder of this bleak word :




This current day treatments are unreliable, unpredictible, hypothetical and not even fully scientific.

Science still hasn't cracked down the brain secrets and still hasn't found any sure way to save everyone since it still can't interfere with the brains function.

Antidépressant are **supposed** to change the brain chemicals. (impossible to monitor and predict its efficacity in this day )

How ect works remain a total mystery since it's **supposed** to reset brain chemistery by electrical impulse while stimulating the brain activity . (impossible to monitor in this day and predict its consequence ).

Therapy is **supposed** to clear the brain from trauma and helping recovery while some have not any shred of traumas.

And I repeated myself everything are **suppositions** not fully backed by science.

Ketamine and psylocibin (present in magic shrooms) is are "supposed" to help you in promoting the formation of new neuronal pathways (impossible to tell how this really work and calibrate nor guiding to be a definite cure in this day and still in the research stage).

Some families are "mentally sick" from parents to child and the illness flowing in their bloodline, implying and a **genetic factor**.

Some are inherently immune to it wathever happens, also implying a **genetic factor**.

And these are the only fact proven by science.

Also remembers that the current treatments **mess** with your **brain** and can leave you lifelong **brain damage.**


So do us and the **sick** a favor, while some can get "saved", some cannot and are drowning in despair before taking their life.

Please respect the memory of the struggling people and the deceased one.

We don't live in a fairy tale.

Curing yourself is akin to gambling.

It would be great to have a miracle vaccine but we **haven't** in this current day and age."
I agree with you. Would you consider OCD a mental illness because I have that very badly. I'm pretty sure I was born with it and at one point whei was 15-17 I wanted to take my life. I was having these horrible obsessive thoughts that gave me such severe anxiety that I feared lying down and going to sleep if I had to be somewhere the next day....like school. I was fine on the weekends but the weeks were horrible. It's weird how it began. One winter break when I was 15 I noticed I was still up and it was 3:00 a.m. Well I eventually fell asleep and the next morning when I woke up I kept thinking, I wonder what time I'm going to fall asleep tonight? And all that worrying and repeated thoughts and anxiety kept me up scared to death all night. At first my parents thought I was a little nuts. There's nothing to worry about they would say it's only sleep. I'd have to have my mother lie down with me to make sure I fell asleep but I'd still struggle when she was there. I remember when I turned 16, it was the first day of school. Sleeping at night during the summer went fine because I didn't have to be somewhere at a certain time. I mean I'd count the hours and minutes. My mom got aggravated with me when I told her I needed her to sit with me because I was really scared and anxious. Finally a few months later I told them I needed to see someone because I wanted to kill myself. They took me to a therapist who did nothing for me. I had to shop around until I found the right one which took a while. I couldn't talk to anyone in my family about it because they thought I was making it up. Why would I do that? So I found a good shrink and went to see a therapist every week. It took a while, maybe half a year but she gave me a lot of tools to relax when I had to go to sleep and before I had to go to sleep.

Then at 20 I got sick with a physical ailment called Complex regional pain syndrome. It stole my life from me and I've become severely depressed and anxious. There's nothing any therapist can do to help me with this one because the reason I'm depressed is because if my illness and my illness can't be treated.

And you're right. Sometimes this sort of thing is genetic. My grandmother had. Nervous breakdown in her late 30s. My mom suffers from anxiety and anxiety attacks and my aunt does too. My grandfather has never been diagnosed with it because he thinks all this stuff is silly and made up but I think....I know he has OCD. I tell him but he says they're just habits. My younger cousin also suffers from anxiety. It started last summer. He was still the grocery store and called me to come get him. He's 24 and I'm 34. He was in tears and could barely breathe. I just held his hand as I was driving and tried to call him down and stayed with him u until his mom got home from work.

The mind is very tricky. It can destroy your life. And a lot of anti depressants can actually worsen depression! It's not as easy as one two three get over it. And I think people need to not feel like they're completely insane when they talk to someone about this. People need to open their minds and believe us. That's one reason why people kill themselves. No one believes them. My grandfather asked me if I thought my cousins anxiety was a way for him to get attention. I told him no one wants attention like that. And that he needed to believe him. The older generation doesn't get it. Like my Nonno is a tough Italian who started working at 12 and if you had a problem you dealt with it. He isn't big on feelings. Not love or anything like that. He shows how much he loves me but I have to force him to say I love you. He said he's not into that mushy shit...and he says what is this little house on the prairie?

But it shouldn't have to be so taboo to talk about. We have to hear people out with mental problems and believe them. We have to try to help instead of saying grow up or toughen up. This world has become a very uncompassionate place and more people are depressed than ever. I asked my mom who grew up on the 60-70s and she said people just were depressed back then like they are now.
I agree with you. We need to explore alternative treatment options, such as psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms as well as ketamine. According to the studies I've read they have enormous potential but they're barely accessible or straight up illegal where I live.
Yes, ketamine. I've had my experiences with that. I have a physical illness that people use ketamie infusions to try and treat. Well it didn't work for me and it didn't work for my depression but I was given a lot to the point where I pissed my pants because I didn't wake up to go haha. Thank God no one in the room noticed since I was wearing all black. But yes a lot of people use ketamine to get high and now with the FDA and the CDC here in America and because of the high number of accidental overdoses they are cracking down on doctors to lower pain meds and take them away all together.
 
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I agree with you. Would you consider OCD a mental illness because I have that very badly. I'm pretty sure I was born with it and at one point whei was 15-17 I wanted to take my life. I was having these horrible obsessive thoughts that gave me such severe anxiety that I feared lying down and going to sleep if I had to be somewhere the next day....like school. I was fine on the weekends but the weeks were horrible. It's weird how it began. One winter break when I was 15 I noticed I was still up and it was 3:00 a.m. Well I eventually fell asleep and the next morning when I woke up I kept thinking, I wonder what time I'm going to fall asleep tonight? And all that worrying and repeated thoughts and anxiety kept me up scared to death all night. At first my parents thought I was a little nuts. There's nothing to worry about they would say it's only sleep. I'd have to have my mother lie down with me to make sure I fell asleep but I'd still struggle when she was there. I remember when I turned 16, it was the first day of school. Sleeping at night during the summer went fine because I didn't have to be somewhere at a certain time. I mean I'd count the hours and minutes. My mom got aggravated with me when I told her I needed her to sit with me because I was really scared and anxious. Finally a few months later I told them I needed to see someone because I wanted to kill myself. They took me to a therapist who did nothing for me. I had to shop around until I found the right one which took a while. I couldn't talk to anyone in my family about it because they thought I was making it up. Why would I do that? So I found a good shrink and went to see a therapist every week. It took a while, maybe half a year but she gave me a lot of tools to relax when I had to go to sleep and before I had to go to sleep.

Then at 20 I got sick with a physical ailment called Complex regional pain syndrome. It stole my life from me and I've become severely depressed and anxious. There's nothing any therapist can do to help me with this one because the reason I'm depressed is because if my illness and my illness can't be treated.

And you're right. Sometimes this sort of thing is genetic. My grandmother had. Nervous breakdown in her late 30s. My mom suffers from anxiety and anxiety attacks and my aunt does too. My grandfather has never been diagnosed with it because he thinks all this stuff is silly and made up but I think....I know he has OCD. I tell him but he says they're just habits. My younger cousin also suffers from anxiety. It started last summer. He was still the grocery store and called me to come get him. He's 24 and I'm 34. He was in tears and could barely breathe. I just held his hand as I was driving and tried to call him down and stayed with him u until his mom got home from work.

The mind is very tricky. It can destroy your life. And a lot of anti depressants can actually worsen depression! It's not as easy as one two three get over it. And I think people need to not feel like they're completely insane when they talk to someone about this. People need to open their minds and believe us. That's one reason why people kill themselves. No one believes them. My grandfather asked me if I thought my cousins anxiety was a way for him to get attention. I told him no one wants attention like that. And that he needed to believe him. The older generation doesn't get it. Like my Nonno is a tough Italian who started working at 12 and if you had a problem you dealt with it. He isn't big on feelings. Not love or anything like that. He shows how much he loves me but I have to force him to say I love you. He said he's not into that mushy shit...and he says what is this little house on the prairie?

But it shouldn't have to be so taboo to talk about. We have to hear people out with mental problems and believe them. We have to try to help instead of saying grow up or toughen up. This world has become a very uncompassionate place and more people are depressed than ever. I asked my mom who grew up on the 60-70s and she said people just were depressed back then like they are now.

Yes, ketamine. I've had my experiences with that. I have a physical illness that people use ketamie infusions to try and treat. Well it didn't work for me and it didn't work for my depression but I was given a lot to the point where I pissed my pants because I didn't wake up to go haha. Thank God no one in the room noticed since I was wearing all black. But yes a lot of people use ketamine to get high and now with the FDA and the CDC here in America and because of the high number of accidental overdoses they are cracking down on doctors to lower pain meds and take them away all together.

I made a slight research about ocd, and iy looks horrible. Your body is bound to feel constantly in danger and release an insane amount of continuous stress leading on the breaking down of your body being predeterminexmd since it can't relax, feel safe and recover. Imagine being kidnapped by a serial killer who chaining you and stabbing you randomly at his will while you saw him kill others victims once he get bored and that for an undetermibed amount of time. This is torture and you are bound to break.
 
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I agree with you. Would you consider OCD a mental illness because I have that very badly. I'm pretty sure I was born with it and at one point whei was 15-17 I wanted to take my life. I was having these horrible obsessive thoughts that gave me such severe anxiety that I feared lying down and going to sleep if I had to be somewhere the next day....like school. I was fine on the weekends but the weeks were horrible. It's weird how it began. One winter break when I was 15 I noticed I was still up and it was 3:00 a.m. Well I eventually fell asleep and the next morning when I woke up I kept thinking, I wonder what time I'm going to fall asleep tonight? And all that worrying and repeated thoughts and anxiety kept me up scared to death all night. At first my parents thought I was a little nuts. There's nothing to worry about they would say it's only sleep. I'd have to have my mother lie down with me to make sure I fell asleep but I'd still struggle when she was there. I remember when I turned 16, it was the first day of school. Sleeping at night during the summer went fine because I didn't have to be somewhere at a certain time. I mean I'd count the hours and minutes. My mom got aggravated with me when I told her I needed her to sit with me because I was really scared and anxious. Finally a few months later I told them I needed to see someone because I wanted to kill myself. They took me to a therapist who did nothing for me. I had to shop around until I found the right one which took a while. I couldn't talk to anyone in my family about it because they thought I was making it up. Why would I do that? So I found a good shrink and went to see a therapist every week. It took a while, maybe half a year but she gave me a lot of tools to relax when I had to go to sleep and before I had to go to sleep.

Then at 20 I got sick with a physical ailment called Complex regional pain syndrome. It stole my life from me and I've become severely depressed and anxious. There's nothing any therapist can do to help me with this one because the reason I'm depressed is because if my illness and my illness can't be treated.

And you're right. Sometimes this sort of thing is genetic. My grandmother had. Nervous breakdown in her late 30s. My mom suffers from anxiety and anxiety attacks and my aunt does too. My grandfather has never been diagnosed with it because he thinks all this stuff is silly and made up but I think....I know he has OCD. I tell him but he says they're just habits. My younger cousin also suffers from anxiety. It started last summer. He was still the grocery store and called me to come get him. He's 24 and I'm 34. He was in tears and could barely breathe. I just held his hand as I was driving and tried to call him down and stayed with him u until his mom got home from work.

The mind is very tricky. It can destroy your life. And a lot of anti depressants can actually worsen depression! It's not as easy as one two three get over it. And I think people need to not feel like they're completely insane when they talk to someone about this. People need to open their minds and believe us. That's one reason why people kill themselves. No one believes them. My grandfather asked me if I thought my cousins anxiety was a way for him to get attention. I told him no one wants attention like that. And that he needed to believe him. The older generation doesn't get it. Like my Nonno is a tough Italian who started working at 12 and if you had a problem you dealt with it. He isn't big on feelings. Not love or anything like that. He shows how much he loves me but I have to force him to say I love you. He said he's not into that mushy shit...and he says what is this little house on the prairie?

But it shouldn't have to be so taboo to talk about. We have to hear people out with mental problems and believe them. We have to try to help instead of saying grow up or toughen up. This world has become a very uncompassionate place and more people are depressed than ever. I asked my mom who grew up on the 60-70s and she said people just were depressed back then like they are now.

Yes, ketamine. I've had my experiences with that. I have a physical illness that people use ketamie infusions to try and treat. Well it didn't work for me and it didn't work for my depression but I was given a lot to the point where I pissed my pants because I didn't wake up to go haha. Thank God no one in the room noticed since I was wearing all black. But yes a lot of people use ketamine to get high and now with the FDA and the CDC here in America and because of the high number of accidental overdoses they are cracking down on doctors to lower pain meds and take them away all together.

the FDA and the CDC here in America and because of the high number of accidental overdoses they are cracking down on doctors to lower pain meds and take them away all together.


The American government has a strange and idiotic way of dealing with problems. They overreact to many things and end up punishing innocent people. They never think of the consequences of their stupid rules and laws to innocent people. 2 examples:

When George W Bush was president, they made the makers of cold medicine products either change their formulas or have their products placed behind the pharmacy counter, as if they were controlled substances. Before the law went into effect, I could get a cold medicine that knocked me out for days and let me sleep off the cold.
After the law, now none of the cold medicines on the shelves are effective anymore. I don't even bother buying them because they are a waste of money. And if you try to buy the ones behind the pharmacy counter that actually work, you are given the third degree and treated like a criminal. Why? Because the law was passed to keep people from using the active ingredients in the cold medicine to make meth.
So the government catered to the people whining about meth addicts dying and I ended up being the one who gets screwed, even though I've never done meth in my life.

And Sweet Emotion, you are right. Now they're doing the same thing with pain meds due to the so-called "opioid crisis". That seems to be how they do it. First, they declare something a "crisis". Then they overreact and either outright ban it or they make it very hard to get.
In this case, the state I recently moved from passed a law that a person can only get a 7 day prescription for any opioid. So people in legitimate pain who have every right to take an opioid are now forced to go to the pharmacy every week to get more meds. It's also caused drug companies, pharmacies, and doctors to be reluctant to manufacture, prescribe and, dispense opioids due to fear of scrutiny or prosecution from the government and all these slime ball ambulance chaser lawyers. So people who are in real pain can't get the meds they need because some drug addict is killing himself with pills.
So once again, the do-gooders have saved us all from the mean old opioids. And those who were taking them responsibly for legitimate pain issues can go to hell!
 
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Why we have not eradicated child labour nor hunger in the third world
Any ideology that is dominant in a society, has, for most of us, no name. Capitalism, Communism, Socialism? What is the difference? Neoliberalism: do you know what it is?
The fact that hardly anyone can define neoliberalism, is one of the reasons that it is allowed to prevail in all its disgusting destruction of human living conditions.
Neoliberalism deliberately creates crises: the financial meltdown of 2007‑8, the offshoring of wealth and power, (Panama Papers),growing inequality, rise in child poverty, rise in third world hunger. These crises are not isolated events, but they are provoked by a coherent philosophy, a nameless philosophy that is wielding the greatest power of them all.
This is not "human nature", not a neutral force; not a biological law, not like Darwin's theory of evolution. It is a conscious attempt to coerce those who are at the receiving end into serfdom, and continue to shift the locus of power further and further away from the already disenfranchised.
Neoliberalism will have you believe that competition is the defining characteristic of human relations.
The only aspect of general humanity that is permissible in neoliberalism is consumerism. Do we really believe that "the market" delivers benefits to every human being, that could never be achieved otherwise?
Competition is cleverly disguised as something natural to humans (as if we were animals): a natural hierarchy of winners and losers.
There is nothing natural about this, apart maybe from its animalistic cruelty to most of the inhabitants of this planet.
Inequality is disguised as a temporary state that a human can exit. If they work hard, they can generate wealth. The wealthy pretend that their wealth creates a trickle-down effect to enrich everyone.
We have observed this global free market experiment for long enough. We can see for ourselves, that it produces more and more inequality the longer we allow it to continue.
Efforts to create a more equal society are required, even more so than addressing the climate emergency. A more equal society is the exact opposite of what we are made to believe. It is not morally corrosive. It is the only ethical thing we can do.
The market may or may not ensure that everyone gets what they deserve. We are not here to bring on a situation where everyone gets what they deserve. We are not god on judgement day. We need to ensure that every person brought into this world receives the help they need to lead a dignified life.
We need to stop now buying into the idiocies of neoliberalism.
The rich may or may not have acquired their wealth through merit. We need to stop blaming the poor, or make them blame themselves for their failures. The truth is they can do little or nothing to improve their circumstances. As they age, their circumstances are likely to get worse.
We can no longer ethically sustain the idea that those who fall behind need to see themselves as losers who should be pulling themselves up by their shoestrings.
Neoliberalism is willing to stand by idly when their economic experiments create epidemics of corruption, illegal drug use, self-harm, eating disorders, depression, loneliness, social phobia, suicidal ideation.
Neoliberalists are so deluded, they see social democracy, exemplified for instance by Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal and the gradual development of Britain's welfare state in the late 1930s, as part of the same spectrum as nazism and communism.
Wealthy people, who saw an opportunity to free themselves from regulation and tax by threatening the general public with the fear of serfdom (a serfdom that is guaranteed for most of the population as a result of social engineering)
Through 90 decades, we have endured and witnessed serfdom, suffering, humanitarian crises, wars, famines, whilst tolerating any amount of corruption and greed perpetrated by powerful actors.
As it evolved, neoliberalism became more strident. In the beginning, neoliberalism did not promote the idea that monopolies are good,. Now it is described by those who benefit from it, as a reward for efficiency.
Then the movement lost its name. In 1951, rich people were still describing themselves as neoliberals.
Soon after that, the term began to disappear from the public eye. As the ideology advertised itself to more and more rich participants, it became more efficient and less and less visible to the public eye.
At first, despite its powerful supporters, neoliberalism remained the idea of a small minority. Full employment and the relief of poverty were common goals in the US and much of western Europe.
Governments all over the world eagerly developed new public services and safety nets.
But in the 1970s, as a result of the hard work of sympathetic journalists and political advisers, boldly neoliberal monetary policies were adopted all over the planet.
We now witness the epidemic of neoliberalism: The wealthy no longer pay taxes, trillions of dollars are in tax havens, governments use massive tax cuts for the rich as incentives to invest, to no avail.
Pyramid marketing schemes and Multi level Marketing emerge, enticing the working poor to invest the last of their savings, when over 99% of participants fail to recover their expenses.
We have sacrificed most of our trade unions, we have stood by witnessing rampant privatisation, outsourcing and competition in public services in the name of the deception called trickle-down effect.
We tolerate the IMF, the WTO, other emerging world banking vehicles with untraceable provenance or purpose. These institutions are established through backdoor politics, avoiding democratic elections.
The freedom that neoliberalism offers, is freedom for the goose, not the gander. And yes, the majority of humans, male and female, are negatively affected by this redistribution of wealth away from those in dire need.
Wages are becoming ridiculously low as compared to inflation and cost of living, often because employers choose to relocate jobs to third world countries when minimum wages are instituted in a Western jurisdiction.
In third world countries the added benefit for the rich is that they can freely pollute the environment.
Freedom from taxation and the nefarious idea that the wealthy will invest in communities, is an efficient political narrative designed to block the redistribution of wealth that could lift people out of poverty. So much for the trickle-down effect.
In international offshore tribunals globalist corporations press for the removal of social and environmental protections.
When parliaments vote to restrict sales of cigarettes, corporations introduce vaping under the pretence that these are devices who will help an individual to quit smoking. Instead the cigarette industry has, in the 5 or so years that we have had vaping, hooked another generation on nicotine, mostly with legally questionable candy flavoured products.
We have never been farther away from being able to assert our right to protect water supplies from mining companies, freeze energy bills or prevent pharmaceutical firms from ripping off the state and creating an addiction crisis (opioids)
We have witnessed time and time again that if anything stands in their way, actors with deep pockets will abuse regulatory processes and obtain favourable outcomes by fair means or foul. By this I mean bribery, coercion, violence, smear campaigns, undermining the democratic process, as disabled as it already is, with further corruption.
Neoliberalism promised to free us from the bureaucratic nightmare of central planning but has instead taken advantage of workers' needs for a steady job.
With the help of countless politically correct creatures who have resigned themselves to doing paperwork for the rest of their lives, the planet has created an overblown, overzealous bureaucratic apparatus torturing the general public and creating destitute citizens who find themselves at the centre of an uncaring bureaucracy and legal system, much like a Dickensian hero.
Neoliberalism is just another racket allowing theft from the poor to benefit the rich. One of the most intimidating threats that the average person is facing is rising rents.
Rent has crept, along with real estate pricing, into the most inflationary item most of us will pay for in a lifetime. The pressure to go into debt to buy a home is intense because wages are not keeping up. Low rent housing is virtually non existent. Housing for the average person is in a crisis situation almost everywhere in the West, so, one way or another, more and more humans become destitute and forced to live in increasingly undignified circumstances, eat unhealthy food and generally suffer from neglect.
Andrew Sayer in Why We Can't Afford the Rich, argues that by fair means or foul, the rich are determined to gain increasing control over the most crucial asset on the planet to date: money.
Banks are the perfect vehicle to keep the poor in debt and permit the rich to earn money in their sleep.
Governments convince us that the banks are too big to fail and grant them generous bail outs from which none of the working poor could ever potentially benefit to the degree that they are financing these bailouts with tax payments.
Our ability to change the course of our lives through voting has essentially disappeared.
We cannot delude ourselves any longer that voting creates an environment where corruption cannot take hold.
Governments and employers, using their ability to hire and fire and the threat of engaging the legal system if challenged, increasingly coerce individuals into unquestioning obedience and political correctness.
The legal system in most countries is so extravagantly expensive that an average person challenged by an (often frivolous) lawsuit likely ends up in poverty and debt instead of receiving justice.
Neoliberal corruption is unassailable because it hides behind a nameless doctrine promoted by nameless backers.
All over the planet, anti-corruption agencies like Transparency International are trying in vain to cut through the tangled web of corruption and put names to perpetrators.
Example: The Institute of Economic Affairs aiding and abetting the tobacco industry in avoiding regulation, has been secretly funded by British American Tobacco since 1963.
We were delusional buying into the idea that wealth creation for all is in the best interest of the society we live in. It is simply put, the exploitation of the average person. This is the end result of almost a century of global delusions and the false belief in the social benefits of capitalism and neoliberalism.
We find that competition is not like gravity or atmosphere, it is corrupt and destructive.
The namelessness and placelessness of modern capitalism ensures that workers hardly ever know who they work for.
Buyers do not know how the purchased item was sourced, whether it was partially produced by illegal child labor or created in a forced labour camp.
Capitalism hides behind a network of offshore secrecy regimes so complex that even the federal agencies publicly admit that they cannot discover the owners.
We allow for tax arrangements that bamboozle the tax agency. We are sold financial products no one understands.
The Road to Serfdom for many,the path to power for the few.
The fact that this type of arrogant corrupt thinking and acting has become rampant in our societies, reflects the failure of the left.
The political left have failed to provide a humanitarian framework to replace corrupt competitive agency.
Corrupt exploitative economic growth is the motor of environmental destruction and the destruction of the idea of dignity for all. The left has no answers.
Is it a coincidence that we see an increasing demand for assisted death all over the world ?
 
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The Road to Serfdom for many,the path to power for the few.
The fact that this type of arrogant corrupt thinking and acting has become rampant in our societies, reflects the failure of the left.
The political left have failed to provide a humanitarian framework to replace corrupt competitive agency.
Corrupt exploitative economic growth is the motor of environmental destruction and the destruction of the idea of dignity for all. The left has no answers.

Wait, how is any of that the fault of "the left"? Aren't leftists known for opposing unregulated capitalism? That doesn't make any sense. The left has answers, they're right in front of you but they constantly get crippled by the center/right. Just look at the US, I think that's the best argument that your scenario isn't very accurate.
 
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Wait, how is any of that the fault of "the left"? Aren't leftists known for opposing unregulated capitalism? That doesn't make any sense. The left has answers, they're right in front of you but they constantly get crippled by the center/right. Just look at the US, I think that's the best argument that your scenario isn't very accurate.
It is not the fault of the left that they promise stuff they then won't do and that they participate in the corruption by getting rich in office. They are not standing up against corruption but participate in it. How much more blame do you want. That they constantly lie about their motives and do not complete on their election promises etc? This is why people like Trump, Trudeau get elected and why we have Brexit. This is why people like Kamala Harris who ran out of funding when having to compete with multiple billionaires in the presidential race, have to give up. Because we all have resigned ourselves to having no voice and putting up with it as best as we can as individuals, with "mindfulness" against the stress of being abused, expoited, getting kicked out of our countries by war lords, living on minimal handouts from others, inc. the government, where the bureaucrats behave as if the welfare money came out of their own pockets, indignant, looking for reasons why they should not pay us enough so we can live in dignity. Us suicidal ones may or may not be aware of this being the actual reason for wanting to commit suicide but if you dig deep enough you will see the "public sentiment", the culture who says yes to every demand the establishment will put on us, be it working too hard to show our non existent work ethic (who has work ethic when they are kept as slaves who can be fired any moment and our lives are in immediate despair because we will lose our existence), to be good little consumers, to buy our kids everything they want or that you think they need, even if it is completely unaffordable (cars cell phones, a human trafficker who takes them to Europe where they live in "dignity" as a refugee?????) is part of the reason.
 
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It is not the fault of the left that they promise stuff they then won't do and that they participate in the corruption by getting rich in office. They are not standing up against corruption but participate in it. How much more blame do you want. That they constantly lie about their motives and do not complete on their election promises etc? This is why people like Trump, Trudeau get elected and why we have Brexit. This is why people like Kamala Harris who ran out of funding when having to compete with multiple billionaires in the presidential race, have to give up. Because we all have resigned ourselves to having no voice and putting up with it as best as we can as individuals, with "mindfulness" against the stress of being abused, expoited, getting kicked out of our countries by war lords, living on minimal handouts from others, inc. the government, where the bureaucrats behave as if the welfare money came out of their own pockets, indignant, looking for reasons why they should not pay us enough so we can live in dignity. Us suicidal ones may or may not be aware of this being the actual reason for wanting to commit suicide but if you dig deep enough you will see the "public sentiment", the culture who says yes to every demand the establishment will put on us, be it working too hard to show our non existent work ethic (who has work ethic when they are kept as slaves who can be fired any moment and our lives are in immediate despair because we will lose our existence), to be good little consumers, to buy our kids everything they want or that you think they need, even if it is completely unaffordable (cars cell phones, a human trafficker who takes them to Europe where they live in "dignity" as a refugee?????) is part of the reason.

I mean... first of all, these people aren't leftists. I don't live in the US but I'm very sure Kamala Harris is anything but left. She is a centrist and her past actions as District Attorney don't speak for her as well. I don't know why you think corruption only applies to leftism. That's literally a general political problem, nothing that only applies to left-wing politics. And when you look at the American political landscape, you will find out that left politicians barely even exist. Most of them are centrist, and I talk from an European perspective right now. I mean, look at the democratic election right now. There are only a handful of people who could be classified as left-wing. Most of them are major sellouts and only run to further their own financial interests. But as I said, that's a general corruption issue, nothing that only applies to one certain side of the political spectrum. But maybe you noticed that there are left-wing voices in the US that want to take money out of politics. And that's what you should do if you value transparency and honesty in politics.

You should look at the record of politicians like Bernie Sanders, who are actual leftists and they're the ones who fight for the people. Neoliberalism, as you call it, has nothing to do with left-wing values. I'm really confused, but maybe we both are. Not sure. Like, the definition of neoliberalism, by Wikipedia, says the following:

"Neoliberalism is generally associated with policies of economic liberalization including privatization, deregulation, free trade, austery and reductions in goverment spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society."

In other words: right-wing and centrist policies. It has nothing to do with leftism. Maybe that's an American thing but these are really not leftist ideas...
 
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I agree with you. We need to explore alternative treatment options, such as psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms as well as ketamine. According to the studies I've read they have enormous potential but they're barely accessible or straight up illegal where I live.

Agreed. There are actually strong hallucinogens which strangely enough are legal and rather easy to obtain. However, they can be very dangerous, especially if used without medical supervision.
 
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For me, there's no need to be mentally ill to commit suicide. I don't think a person that is in a lot of physical pain everyday and wants to end their life, is mentally ill. Seems a rational decision.
 
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For me, there's no need to be mentally ill to commit suicide. I don't think a person that is in a lot of physical pain everyday and wants to end their life, is mentally ill. Seems a rational decision.
Since when " mentally ill" are supposed to be irrational?
 
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I mean... first of all, these people aren't leftists. I don't live in the US but I'm very sure Kamala Harris is anything but left. She is a centrist and her past actions as District Attorney don't speak for her as well. I don't know why you think corruption only applies to leftism. That's literally a general political problem, nothing that only applies to left-wing politics. And when you look at the American political landscape, you will find out that left politicians barely even exist. Most of them are centrist, and I talk from an European perspective right now. I mean, look at the democratic election right now. There are only a handful of people who could be classified as left-wing. Most of them are major sellouts and only run to further their own financial interests. But as I said, that's a general corruption issue, nothing that only applies to one certain side of the political spectrum. But maybe you noticed that there are left-wing voices in the US that want to take money out of politics. And that's what you should do if you value transparency and honesty in politics.

You should look at the record of politicians like Bernie Sanders, who are actual leftists and they're the ones who fight for the people. Neoliberalism, as you call it, has nothing to do with left-wing values. I'm really confused, but maybe we both are. Not sure. Like, the definition of neoliberalism, by Wikipedia, says the following:

"Neoliberalism is generally associated with policies of economic liberalization including privatization, deregulation, free trade, austery and reductions in goverment spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society."

In other words: right-wing and centrist policies. It has nothing to do with leftism. Maybe that's an American thing but these are really not leftist ideas...
I deny that politicians fight for the people. They are part of the system and fight mostly for themselves. They enrich themselves while in politics and laugh about the disenfranchised who vote for them in hope of change. We need a tick box on the ballot that says "I think you are all corrupt this is why I am not voting for any of you".
 
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the FDA and the CDC here in America and because of the high number of accidental overdoses they are cracking down on doctors to lower pain meds and take them away all together.

The American government has a strange and idiotic way of dealing with problems. They overreact to many things and end up punishing innocent people. They never think of the consequences of their stupid rules and laws to innocent people. 2 examples:

When George W Bush was president, they made the makers of cold medicine products either change their formulas or have their products placed behind the pharmacy counter, as if they were controlled substances. Before the law went into effect, I could get a cold medicine that knocked me out for days and let me sleep off the cold.
After the law, now none of the cold medicines on the shelves are effective anymore. I don't even bother buying them because they are a waste of money. And if you try to buy the ones behind the pharmacy counter that actually work, you are given the third degree and treated like a criminal. Why? Because the law was passed to keep people from using the active ingredients in the cold medicine to make meth.
So the government catered to the people whining about meth addicts dying and I ended up being the one who gets screwed, even though I've never done meth in my life.

And Sweet Emotion, you are right. Now they're doing the same thing with pain meds due to the so-called "opioid crisis". That seems to be how they do it. First, they declare something a "crisis". Then they overreact and either outright ban it or they make it very hard to get.
In this case, the state I recently moved from passed a law that a person can only get a 7 day prescription for any opioid. So people in legitimate pain who have every right to take an opioid are now forced to go to the pharmacy every week to get more meds. It's also caused drug companies, pharmacies, and doctors to be reluctant to manufacture, prescribe and, dispense opioids due to fear of scrutiny or prosecution from the government and all these slime ball ambulance chaser lawyers. So people who are in real pain can't get the meds they need because some drug addict is killing himself with pills.
So once again, the do-gooders have saved us all from the mean old opioids. And those who were taking them responsibly for legitimate pain issues can go to hell!
I couldn't agree more with you. I'm in the situation that you mentioned in your second example. I have been lowered a lot and it's hard dealing with it mentally and physically. I take my meds responsibly. I don't crush them. I don't snort them. I don't take extra. But you're right?.. because if the actual drug addicts I'm being punished because they accidentally overdosed. It really pisses me off. I know of a husband who killed his wife's doctor and then killed himself in the office because his wife's doctor took her meds away. It's tragic because now she has no meds and no husband.
 
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I couldn't agree more with you. I'm in the situation that you mentioned in your second example. I have been lowered a lot and it's hard dealing with it mentally and physically. I take my meds responsibly. I don't crush them. I don't snort them. I don't take extra. But you're right?.. because if the actual drug addicts I'm being punished because they accidentally overdosed. It really pisses me off. I know of a husband who killed his wife's doctor and then killed himself in the office because his wife's doctor took her meds away. It's tragic because now she has no meds and no husband.
Yes, it's horrible what they are putting innocent people through. They're forcing normally law-abiding citizens to act like drug addicts by forcing them to doctor shop and even buy drugs on the streets for their pain problems because in many places now they can't get what they need by legal means thanks to the gov't.
i feel bad for the woman whose husband killed her doctor and then himself. I'm sure he just couldn't bear watching her suffer anymore and he snapped.
It's very upsetting to me too. Our gov't seems to do things completely backwards. I don't understand why they are more concerned about a bunch of drug addicts dying than they are about people who take their drugs responsibly. I know it's devastating for families that lose people to drug abuse and accidental overdose and I feel for them too. But not at the expense of law- abiding citizens who are just trying to relieve their pain. It's not fair and I wish more people would get angry and complain to their congressional representatives. I've written letters and emails and made phone calls about this, but I only ever get a form letter back. If more people complained, maybe they would listen- especially in an election year.
I think I told you before that I have severe pain in my knees. Right now, I only need high doses of ibuprofen to stop the pain. At some point in the future though, that won't be enough anymore. I'll need more serious pain meds. I'm afraid I won't have access to the meds I need because of these unfair laws. But I also get very angry when I have to watch others suffer needlessly. It pisses me off that the people who passed these laws don't have to suffer the consequences of them and they don't care about the people who are suffering the consequences of their stupid laws. There must be a better way to fight opioid addiction than forcing thousands, or maybe even millions, of innocent people to suffer for things they didn't do.
 
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Wait, how is any of that the fault of "the left"? Aren't leftists known for opposing unregulated capitalism? That doesn't make any sense. The left has answers, they're right in front of you but they constantly get crippled by the center/right. Just look at the US, I think that's the best argument that your scenario isn't very accurate.
I wish we had unregulated capitalism because that would mean that government is not meddling in what would normally be a free market. We have not had free market or unregulated capitalism in many decades in the US. Many people confuse socialism and capitalism but in the US now it's pretty heavily socialist and has been for many decades. Central banking is a tenet of communism which is what we have in the US and many other countries. Basically a few rich bankers control all the money so they can control u and wether u have upward mobility or not. They create and mess with the normal incentive structure.

The left is responsible for increasing wealth inequality because they control the education system especially for the poor and working class. They also control charity and the medical system to a large degree. Charity is basically the same as welfare only with charity u might actually be able to get off it one day but many people stay trapped in the welfare system because they're just getting handouts and nobody is trying to actually prevent the issues or stop enabling behaviors that lead people to become lifetime dependents on gov stolen money. Welfare is stolen money it's not like the richer people are giving it to u bc they care lol! It's about keeping people dependent and so they are more controllable. The left owns all the media we are subjected to on tv so u have no alternative view points, it all has to fit with what the ruling class wants u to be exposed to not what might be good for u though.
 
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And no doctor
Well that doctor wasn't giving her meds anyway so screw him. I'm glad the husband killed him.
Yes, it's horrible what they are putting innocent people through. They're forcing normally law-abiding citizens to act like drug addicts by forcing them to doctor shop and even buy drugs on the streets for their pain problems because in many places now they can't get what they need by legal means thanks to the gov't.
i feel bad for the woman whose husband killed her doctor and then himself. I'm sure he just couldn't bear watching her suffer anymore and he snapped.
It's very upsetting to me too. Our gov't seems to do things completely backwards. I don't understand why they are more concerned about a bunch of drug addicts dying than they are about people who take their drugs responsibly. I know it's devastating for families that lose people to drug abuse and accidental overdose and I feel for them too. But not at the expense of law- abiding citizens who are just trying to relieve their pain. It's not fair and I wish more people would get angry and complain to their congressional representatives. I've written letters and emails and made phone calls about this, but I only ever get a form letter back. If more people complained, maybe they would listen- especially in an election year.
I think I told you before that I have severe pain in my knees. Right now, I only need high doses of ibuprofen to stop the pain. At some point in the future though, that won't be enough anymore. I'll need more serious pain meds. I'm afraid I won't have access to the meds I need because of these unfair laws. But I also get very angry when I have to watch others suffer needlessly. It pisses me off that the people who passed these laws don't have to suffer the consequences of them and they don't care about the people who are suffering the consequences of their stupid laws. There must be a better way to fight opioid addiction than forcing thousands, or maybe even millions, of innocent people to suffer for things they didn't do.
I couldn't have said it better.
Yes, I don't blame the doctors. As I said before, many of them are terrified of being sued or prosecuted by the gov't or some slime ball class action suit lawyer.
I can't help but blame some of the doctors. Some a awful. I've been to them. I've met doctors like this. I have been blackmailed by the doctor I'm seeing now. I've heard other horror stories from patients of this man that I see. The only reason I go to him is because he gives out pain meds. The other doctors have stopped. And they're the only things that help me. I've been through all the trigger point injections and blocks and all kinds of testing. What I have can't be helped. No awareness, no money so no research. My condition is just as bad s cancer so they better get on with it. People die of what I have. But of course it doesn't say that on the internet. I'm just disgusted with this whole world, really I am.
 
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Well that doctor wasn't giving her meds anyway so screw him. I'm glad the husband killed him.

I couldn't have said it better.

I can't help but blame some of the doctors. Some a awful. I've been to them. I've met doctors like this. I have been blackmailed by the doctor I'm seeing now. I've heard other horror stories from patients of this man that I see. The only reason I go to him is because he gives out pain meds. The other doctors have stopped. And they're the only things that help me. I've been through all the trigger point injections and blocks and all kinds of testing. What I have can't be helped. No awareness, no money so no research. My condition is just as bad s cancer so they better get on with it. People die of what I have. But of course it doesn't say that on the internet. I'm just disgusted with this whole world, really I am.
I can definitely understand why you feel the way you do. That's terrible that a doctor is blackmailing you, especially when he's the only doctor you can get the meds you need from. It also sucks that there isn't more awareness of your illness. It's too bad there isn't some famous celebrity that has your illness, or has a close loved one with your illness. Maybe they could bring some publicity to it.
I'm certainly no fan of doctors. I've had more than my fair share of bad experiences with doctors. The doctor I used to get my thyroid meds from was a pain specialist and I had to get drug tested and he claimed he wasn't allowed to write prescriptions for more than 30 days. He was totally paranoid about the gov't coming after him or something. I never got any opioids or any other pain meds from him, but I still had to go through all kinds of crap to get my thyroid meds because no other doctor would prescribe them to me. I was treated the same as the people he prescribed pain meds for even though I didn't get any pain meds, and they put the people who did get pain meds through hell.