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JamieJambo

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Jamie you might like this guy. Interesting video.

Wow thanks for that. The theosophical society is were steiner came from. I am a big fan of Steiner. He also says something which isn't so hopeful for those seeking relief by suicide he says this.

"We can thus understand the terrible destiny and the horrible torments which have to be endured by the unfortunates who end their lives through suicide. When death comes naturally, the three bodies separate relatively easily. Even in apoplexy or any other sudden but natural form of death, the separation of these higher members has in fact been prepared for well in advance, and so they separate easily and the sense of loss of the physical body is only slight.

But when the separation is as sudden and violent as it is with the suicide, whose whole organism is still healthy and firmly bound together, then immediately after death he feels the loss of the physical body very keenly and this causes terrible pains. This is a ghastly fate: the suicide feels as though he had been plucked out of himself, and he begins a fearful search for the physical body of which he was so suddenly deprived. Nothing else bears comparison with this.

You may retort that the suicide who is weary of life no longer has any interest in it; otherwise he would not have killed himself. But that is a delusion, for it is precisely the suicide who wants too much from life. Because it has ceased to satisfy his desire for pleasure, or perhaps because some change of circumstances has involved him in a loss, he takes refuge in death. And that is why his feeling of deprivation when he finds himself without a body is unspeakably severe." -Rudolph Steiner
 
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Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
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Wow thanks for that. The theosophical society is were steiner came from. I am a big fan of Steiner. He also says something which isn't so hopeful for those seeking relief by suicide he says this.

"We can thus understand the terrible destiny and the horrible torments which have to be endured by the unfortunates who end their lives through suicide. When death comes naturally, the three bodies separate relatively easily. Even in apoplexy or any other sudden but natural form of death, the separation of these higher members has in fact been prepared for well in advance, and so they separate easily and the sense of loss of the physical body is only slight.

But when the separation is as sudden and violent as it is with the suicide, whose whole organism is still healthy and firmly bound together, then immediately after death he feels the loss of the physical body very keenly and this causes terrible pains. This is a ghastly fate: the suicide feels as though he had been plucked out of himself, and he begins a fearful search for the physical body of which he was so suddenly deprived. Nothing else bears comparison with this.

You may retort that the suicide who is weary of life no longer has any interest in it; otherwise he would not have killed himself. But that is a delusion, for it is precisely the suicide who wants too much from life. Because it has ceased to satisfy his desire for pleasure, or perhaps because some change of circumstances has involved him in a loss, he takes refuge in death. And that is why his feeling of deprivation when he finds himself without a body is unspeakably severe." -Rudolph Steiner
So everyone who has a sudden heart attack, who dies in any of a wide variety of accidents and weather events, my friend who had a sudden stroke that killed her...all of those people suffer this "ghastly fate"?
 
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Apr 19, 2022
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I'm starting to wonder right now, though I am not sure I should be jumping to conclusions. If you know, you know...
 
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Wow thanks for that. The theosophical society is were steiner came from. I am a big fan of Steiner. He also says something which isn't so hopeful for those seeking relief by suicide he says this.

"We can thus understand the terrible destiny and the horrible torments which have to be endured by the unfortunates who end their lives through suicide. When death comes naturally, the three bodies separate relatively easily. Even in apoplexy or any other sudden but natural form of death, the separation of these higher members has in fact been prepared for well in advance, and so they separate easily and the sense of loss of the physical body is only slight.

But when the separation is as sudden and violent as it is with the suicide, whose whole organism is still healthy and firmly bound together, then immediately after death he feels the loss of the physical body very keenly and this causes terrible pains. This is a ghastly fate: the suicide feels as though he had been plucked out of himself, and he begins a fearful search for the physical body of which he was so suddenly deprived. Nothing else bears comparison with this.

You may retort that the suicide who is weary of life no longer has any interest in it; otherwise he would not have killed himself. But that is a delusion, for it is precisely the suicide who wants too much from life. Because it has ceased to satisfy his desire for pleasure, or perhaps because some change of circumstances has involved him in a loss, he takes refuge in death. And that is why his feeling of deprivation when he finds himself without a body is unspeakably severe." -Rudolph Steiner
Yeah I'd imagine it causes some kind of terror to the Astral/light body. Im not sure how that works. I know nothing.
 
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rationaltake

I'm rocking it - in another universe
Sep 28, 2021
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Well. I absolutely this particular physical body I inhabit and seriously want to get rid of it.
 
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Apr 13, 2021
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View attachment 91447I wonder has anyone heard of this quote by the famous yogi Yogananda

It's not very hopeful for us. I was wondering what you thought of it?

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