Questions for those that took SN and are still here

[Jadzia]

If you have taken SN and decided to post here to tell us you didn't die, please be clear on the following;

Why did you take it? Some people take SN to experiment and not to CTB.

Exactly what protocol you followed and did you deviate from it in anyway?

If you deviated from it, why?

Why do you think it failed?

Where you bought it from? initials only as we can't post sources.

If there are any other questions that should be asked, please add them.
@Mofreeko any questions to add?

 

[Forever Sleep]

I do agree- it is certainly very helpful to us to know why an attempt may have failed.

I also appreciate that your post does say- IF the person is willing to share their experience.

However- I think we REALLY need to think about the human element here... I myself have been guilty of this- but it's not all that sensitive to bombard someone who is (very possibly) suffering the most traumatic experience of their life with a whole load of questions.

Perhaps they didn't come on here to be treated as a guinea pig and grilled as to why they or it screwed up... Maybe they just wanted some comfort and here is the only place they could go.

I'm not saying don't ask questions if the OP is willing to answer them. I'm just saying- maybe we should find out whether they are well enough to- and willing to in the first place. (Like I say- I've been guilty of being a bit insensitive too...) Personally- I don't think it should be a case of- if you come on here after a failed attempt- EXPECT to be questioned... (and MUCH worse- called a liar!)

I'm also not dismissing that there could well be the odd fake account of a nightmare SN fail- posted to put other people off. Still- seeing as we have no way of proving this- shouldn't we at least be initially supportive to them and continue to be civil- even if we may have doubts?

 

[Cathy Ames]

Personally- I don't think it should be a case of- if you come on here after a failed attempt- EXPECT to be questioned... (and MUCH worse- called a liar!)

Yup. I would caution anyone who might reply to this thread. Please bear in mind that if your failure was for any reason other than being rescued, based on past history, it is very likely that you WILL be attacked and accused of various things.

 

[Pll]

It is very likely that you WILL be attacked and accused of various things.

Really shocking that I saw this happening in another thread. It wasn't even that member's thread, but in some other where people were full-on just calling their attempt fake, like ugh.

 

[Jadzia]

Yup. I would caution anyone who might reply to this thread. Please bear in mind that if your failure was for any reason other than being rescued, based on past history, it is very likely that you WILL be attacked and accused of various things.

I've posted these questions to try and prevent people from being attacked and/or misunderstood

 

[tilly17]

I'd really like to know how long it took
To pass out and did you feel like you were suffocating at all? How bad were and what where the symptoms you experienced taking SN?

 

[time2fly]

I'd really like to know how long it took
To pass out and did you feel like you were suffocating at all? How bad were and what where the symptoms you experienced taking SN?

From what I have gathered from hours of research, the worst symptoms that people will experience is a bit of nasuea (imagine drinking a shot of vodka on empty stomach) , rapid heart rate (will feel like you just went for a jog) , and some people report the feeling of "suffocation" but not in the sense that they "cant breathe" but more like you feel like the air is "thinner" .... While some people may view these symptoms as terrifying it just depends on your metaphorical "pain tolerance" and your determination. It would appear that most people (who do it properly) are lights out within 10 - 15 minutes. You pass out due to a drop in blood pressure / lowered blood oxygen so it is not even like you have to "try to fall asleep" its more like that feeling where you cant stay awake and go lights out without even knowing it (think about people who fall asleep while driving due to exaustion) .... So with all that being said. I do not believe that it is the *MOST* peaceful way to go. But odds are, you will just feel a bit of nasuea, might throw up a time or two (not a problem for me as i have been a drinker for a while) , and a bit of a elevated heart rate before falling asleep.

 

[LookingOverTheEdge]

I made a thread after a failed attempt, which you could probably find through my profile. I won't go through all of it again here.

Some people did doubt me, and that's fine. Always take things on the Internet with a pinch of salt (get it? Little irony joke there)

The one thing I do want to get across in this thread, is that it is quite a traumatic thing to think that it's about to end, and be at peace with that, and then to find out it hasn't. For me, I came straight here, because it's pretty much the only place where I feel I can show this side of myself and be understood. And being here kind of held processing reality at bay for a little bit. But away from here, things got dark for quite some time.

Just remember, it's fine to be curious, but people don't necessarily owe you an explanation. And it's fine to doubt, but that doesn't mean you have to be openly hostile.
After all, we're all in a vulnerable position just from the very fact that we're here in the first place. If they are in the situation they say they're in (failed attempt), then the last thing they need is accusations and anger.

We're all here for the same reason. And the general consensus is that the 'outside world' doesn't understand us, or offer any real help. So let's not turn on each other. Otherwise what is this place really for?

I'd really like to know how long it took
To pass out and did you feel like you were suffocating at all? How bad were and what where the symptoms you experienced taking SN?

As I said above, if you look through my profile, you can find a thread where I described my whole experience start to finish. I will however, quick fire, answer your questions here.

Can't say exactly how long it took, but it was longer than I expected. Perhaps 15 minutes or so? Didn't feel like I was suffocating, but breathing was harder if that makes sense.
Overall the other symptoms were quite tolerable in my opinion. Though I didn't throw up and I'm told that that's quite unusual. Felt the urge to though.

 

[MidnightDream]

Literally all of these questions you could answer yourself by reading the threads already posted here.
It seems rlly entitled to me to demand that they should go through all of it again but in a format that's easier?? especially given how many of these threads have been derailed for one reason or another. I know you said above that you've posted these questions to avoid people being dogpiled, but it's Sasu. People will dogpile regardless if that's what they wanna do. At the end of the day, these are real people and not case studies. I think people tend to forget that.

 

[tilly17]

Until newbies post enough the search option isn't available which is why I asked questions before I could personally search and find the answers. Takes a bit to navigate how this site works which is what I have noticed and felt at first.

 

[Jadzia]

I made a thread after a failed attempt, which you could probably find through my profile. I won't go through all of it again here.

Some people did doubt me, and that's fine. Always take things on the Internet with a pinch of salt (get it? Little irony joke there)

The one thing I do want to get across in this thread, is that it is quite a traumatic thing to think that it's about to end, and be at peace with that, and then to find out it hasn't. For me, I came straight here, because it's pretty much the only place where I feel I can show this side of myself and be understood. And being here kind of held processing reality at bay for a little bit. But away from here, things got dark for quite some time.

Just remember, it's fine to be curious, but people don't necessarily owe you an explanation. And it's fine to doubt, but that doesn't mean you have to be openly hostile.
After all, we're all in a vulnerable position just from the very fact that we're here in the first place. If they are in the situation they say they're in (failed attempt), then the last thing they need is accusations and anger.

We're all here for the same reason. And the general consensus is that the 'outside world' doesn't understand us, or offer any real help. So let's not turn on each other. Otherwise what is this place really for?

As I said above, if you look through my profile, you can find a thread where I described my whole experience start to finish. I will however, quick fire, answer your questions here.

Can't say exactly how long it took, but it was longer than I expected. Perhaps 15 minutes or so? Didn't feel like I was suffocating, but breathing was harder if that makes sense.
Overall the other symptoms were quite tolerable in my opinion. Though I didn't throw up and I'm told that that's quite unusual. Felt the urge to though.

It was actually your thread that was one of the threads that prompted me to write this. You did write in the title that you were willing to answer questions but I'm sure you would have been asked them anyway.

I did feel sorry for you because of the accusations of lying and from what I can gather from reading the thread, you had actually accidentally bought NitrAte and not NitrIte.

People wouldn't get all the questions amd accusations thrown at them if they gave all the info needed and were consistent with their story.

Another thread I've asked questions about where someone said they'd failed eventually admitted it wasn't an attempt but an experiment and they had only taken 5gms.

If people are willing to share their experiences of failing at SN, it is important that other members are not unnecessarily scared away from SN when failed attempts are from reasons such as these. There are 4 recent threads that I'm aware of where there were reasons why it failed that could have been avoided. I realise you weren't aware that the SN you bought wasn't what you'd expected and hopefully folks will learn from that.

I'm grateful to anyone willing to share their experiences. I'm sorry for what you went though. Sending hugs

 

[LookingOverTheEdge]

Until newbies post enough the search option isn't available which is why I asked questions before I could personally search and find the answers. Takes a bit to navigate how this site works which is what I have noticed and felt at first.

If that's in reference to me saying to look at my profile, please don't think I was having a go or anything. I only meant that I posted a detailed description in a thread that went on for I think 5 pages? So I wasn't going to type it all out again here, that's all.
Welcome to the forum, I'm really sad you're in a position to have found your way here but I hope this place can give you some comfort as it has me.

It was actually your thread that was one of the threads that prompted me to write this. You did write in the title that you were willing to answer questions but I'm sure you would have been asked them anyway.

I did feel sorry for you because of the accusations of lying and from what I can gather from reading the thread, you had actually accidentally bought NitrAte and not NitrIte.

People wouldn't get all the questions amd accusations thrown at them if they gave all the info needed and were consistent with their story.

Another thread I've asked questions about where someone said they'd failed eventually admitted it wasn't an attempt but an experiment and they had only taken 5gms.

If people are willing to share their experiences of failing at SN, it is important that other members are not unnecessarily scared away from SN when failed attempts are from reasons such as these. There are 4 recent threads that I'm aware of where there were reasons why it failed that could have been avoided. I realise you weren't aware that the SN you bought wasn't what you'd expected and hopefully folks will learn from that.

I'm grateful to anyone willing to share their experiences. I'm sorry for what you went though. Sending hugs

Oh don't worry. I take no offence from any of it. And it seems to me like your heart is in the right place with this thread, so I'm all for it. I'm just cautioning that although I was happy enough to answer questions, not everyone will be. That's all.

Also, I know it was said that I had nitrate, I do not. It's most definitely nitrite. I'm absolutely certain about that. But again, I fully understand people questioning everything. I'm as surprised as anyone that I'm still here, but I'm certain that if I'd taken the full 25g as opposed to the 15 I did, I wouldn't be. I do however also think I would definitely have vomited and needed a second glass though, which makes it a little less peaceful, but it is what it is.

I really am all for people being suspicious or disbelieving. The only comment I found slightly offensive was when someone insinuated that I'd basically just drank a glass of water with nothing in it. That was just plain insensitive and adds nothing to the discussion. I wonder how they'd have felt if the roles had been reversed you know?

Appreciate your kind words. I will say, there's a positive to what I went through. Although I wish it had worked, and nothing's changed there, I now have no fear of the whole process. If and when the time comes, I know what it's going to be like, and that I can be calm and peaceful throughout. That's quite liberating.

 

[freelifexit]

did you feel like you were suffocating at all? How bad were and what where the symptoms you experienced taking SN?

There are several cases that where painful and can't breathe, most cases are only discomforting, some cases even peaceful. Everybody reacts different. Here you can find more info about peaceful and painful attempts.

 

[zeenatax]

According to PPeH SN reliability is 70% so I won't be surprised some of them failing for whatever reason. Besides you won't hear from successful ctb as they can't post. Since you only hear about failures it always look like a lot of SN failures.

 

[Eucalyptus72]

If reliability for SN is 70%, is there an equiv. figure for N?

 

[suicidalpushpop]

If reliability for SN is 70%, is there an equiv. figure for N?

N is like 100%

 

[Eucalyptus72]

Really though? There are the various factors, including keeping it down, the shelf life, being physically healthy. Seems that would nudge down that 100% figure...

 

[zeenatax]

If reliability for SN is 70%, is there an equiv. figure for N?

I believe it is 90%.