Question Inert Gas Method

[steve_s5]

Hey,

I am done actually research want to have 2 Backup Methods atleast should Nembutal fail.
I am interested in the Inert Gas Method with the Scaba Full Face Mask tested ? have anyone tested this?

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/images/2020/09/112157_STICKSTOFF_A_M_English-1.pdf

Questions:
I will use Nitrogen is this ok? ( or is Helium or Argon better? )
Is one 5 Litter Gas Canister enough?
is unconsciousness really so fast afters 3-4 breaths?
Is it possible to take a light antidepressivant to calm down ? ( i have mirtapazine at home ) it has a sedative effect
What after you are unconsciousness keeps the gas flowing? is this not dangers that it maybe could explode? or does the gas run out.

 

[outrider567]

Hey,

I am done actually research want to have 2 Backup Methods atleast should Nembutal fail.
I am interested in the Inert Gas Method with the Scaba Full Face Mask tested ? have anyone tested this?

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/images/2020/09/112157_STICKSTOFF_A_M_English-1.pdf

Questions:
I will use Nitrogen is this ok? ( or is Helium or Argon better? )
Is one 5 Litter Gas Canister enough?
is unconsciousness really so fast afters 3-4 breaths?
Is it possible to take a light antidepressivant to calm down ? ( i have mirtapazine at home ) it has a sedative effect
What after you are unconsciousness keeps the gas flowing? is this not dangers that it maybe could explode? or does the gas run out.

Inert Gas Exit Bag Mega Thread is where you'll find your answers--EEBD hood is similar to Scuba full face mask

 

[befree]

Hi. I allready answered your questions in other threads and also posted a guide and photos.
Use helium or nitrogen. The gas flow stops automaticly when you don´t breath in or don´t breath at all. How everything works and what you need is explained in the guide. This method is very simple,effective and peaceful. All you have to do is connect an inert gas cylinder with the adapter instead of oxygen. Everything else is like diving. This thread shows my equipment:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-inhale-nitrogen-gas-from-clinder.94119/#post-1654726

 

[outrider567]

Hey,

I am done actually research want to have 2 Backup Methods atleast should Nembutal fail.
I am interested in the Inert Gas Method with the Scaba Full Face Mask tested ? have anyone tested this?

https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/images/2020/09/112157_STICKSTOFF_A_M_English-1.pdf

Questions:
I will use Nitrogen is this ok? ( or is Helium or Argon better? )
Is one 5 Litter Gas Canister enough?
is unconsciousness really so fast afters 3-4 breaths?
Is it possible to take a light antidepressivant to calm down ? ( i have mirtapazine at home ) it has a sedative effect
What after you are unconsciousness keeps the gas flowing? is this not dangers that it maybe could explode? or does the gas run out.

No danger of tank exploding unless it falls sharply on a hard surface,make sure its secure---15 liters per minute is the accepted lethal dose, so 450 to 600 liter tank is sufficient(30 minutes to 40 minutes)to CTB successfully

 

[steve_s5]

Inert Gas Exit Bag Mega Thread is where you'll find your answers--EEBD hood is similar to Scuba full face mask

Yes i know i already read the Thread but i did new Thread because i wanted to know about the mask version

 

[befree]

Advantages of this method
NO shortness of breath and NO feeling of suffocation, as CO2 continues to be exhaled.
Inhalation of pure Helium or Nitrogen that is not enriched by exhaled breathing air
(with oxygen and CO2).
No risk of failure due to uncontrolled movements during unconsciousness or slackening of the muscles and a resulting change in body position.
Helium and Nitrogen are odorless and tasteless.
No danger to other persons due to escaping gas.
Unconsciousness occurs very quickly (only a few breaths).
Death after approximately 3 minutes in painless unconsciousness.

 

[steve_s5]

Advantages of this method
NO shortness of breath and NO feeling of suffocation, as CO2 continues to be exhaled.
Inhalation of pure Helium or Nitrogen that is not enriched by exhaled breathing air
(with oxygen and CO2).
No risk of failure due to uncontrolled movements during unconsciousness or slackening of the muscles and a resulting change in body position.
Helium and Nitrogen are odorless and tasteless.
No danger to other persons due to escaping gas.
Unconsciousness occurs very quickly (only a few breaths).
Death after approximately 3 minutes in painless unconsciousness

Yes thank you very much this is my backup method :)

 

[steve_s5]

Question:

This is the Equipment that i want to buy, but i don't know that the regulator has 200 din threads? i searched on the product side could not find anything.
Is this EN-ISO-12209 ? could be i am not sure.

119$ Full Face Mask
https://www.ebay.com/itm/313938604321?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

77$ - Diving Regulator
Amazon product ASIN B006U6NX0M
24.95$ - Adapter for Regulator
https://www.tek-diver-shop.de/Threa...-internal-thread-nitrogen-W24-internal-thread

 

[befree]

Before you buy an adapter you have to decide which gas you wanna use. The adapter shown on the photo is for nitrogen. Do you want to use nitrogen?
The mask is ok. I have the same.

There is no amazon link, so I can´t check the regulator.
By the way, I´m not sure if it´s a good idea the post the link where to order the adpater.

 

[steve_s5]

Before you buy an adapter you have to decide which gas you wanna use. The adapter shown on the photo is for nitrogen. Do you want to use nitrogen?
The mask is ok. I have the same.

There is no amazon link, so I can´t check the regulator.
By the way, I´m not sure if it´s a good idea the post the link where to order the adpater.

Yes i will use nitrogen, there is a link for the regulator?

Diving Regulator is: Cressi Octopus XS-Compact

Regulators & Octopus-Octopus Compact

2nd STAGE XS COMPACT PRO: A true featherweight second stage, the Compact is built from lightweight techno-polymers to eliminate jaw fatigue. Easy to pack and easy to dive, the Compact includes dive/...

www.cressi.com

I will not buy the adapter from this site, i posted it only for the thread in the forum to ask is it the right adapter.
Whats the problem with posting links here in it?

 

[befree]

As far as I can see this only the 2.stage, the so called octopus. This is not the complete regulator.
I have this one:

Regulators & Octopus-MC9 / Compact

This premiere travel regulator packs maximum performance into minimum space. A true featherweight second stage, the Compact is built from lightweight techno-polymers to eliminate jaw fatigue....

www.cressi.com

If you wanna use that adapter, you have to buy the reagulator with this connector:

Regulators & Octopus-MC9 / Compact

This premiere travel regulator packs maximum performance into minimum space. A true featherweight second stage, the Compact is built from lightweight techno-polymers to eliminate jaw fatigue....

www.cressi.com

Ok now I have seen the photo on Amazon. You can not use it, because there is no preasure reducer included that you have to connect with the adapter to the nitrogen cylinder.
You need this one:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/717omm9YhSL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

with this connector:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/8183sgf-ilL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

NOT this one:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81mDpTtXvxL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

 

[steve_s5]

As far as I can see this only the 2.stage, the so called octopus. This is not the complete regulator.
I have this one:

Regulators & Octopus-MC9 / Compact

This premiere travel regulator packs maximum performance into minimum space. A true featherweight second stage, the Compact is built from lightweight techno-polymers to eliminate jaw fatigue....

www.cressi.com

If you wanna use that adapter, you have to buy the reagulator with this connector:

Regulators & Octopus-MC9 / Compact

This premiere travel regulator packs maximum performance into minimum space. A true featherweight second stage, the Compact is built from lightweight techno-polymers to eliminate jaw fatigue....

www.cressi.com

Ok now I have seen the photo on Amazon. You can not use it, because there is no preasure reducer included that you have to connect with the adapter to the nitrogen cylinder.

Ok first connect the G5/8 internal adapter to the nitrogen port and then use this adapter from the regulator to connect tho the nitrogen adapter. (g5/8)
Is this right so or wrong?

I found this pack

Amazon product ASIN B007XDAQLK
Looks like the adapter is inclusive?
thank you for you help :)

 

[Everydayismisery]

should Nembutal fail

Nembutal doesn't fail lol

 

[steve_s5]

Nembutal doesn't fail lol

I mean something else i described it wrong i mean that when i cannot buy nembutal ( because out of stock ).
Then choose another Method

 

[Everydayismisery]

I mean something else i described it wrong i mean that when i cannot buy nembutal ( because out of stock ).
Then choose another Method

Makes sense, my bad for misinterpreting.

 

[befree]

https://www.tek-diver-shop.de/media/image/product/11383/lg/gewindeadapter-druckluft-g5-8-innengewinde-stickstoff-w24-innengewinde.webp

1. You connect the adapter to the nitrogen cylinder tightly (right side of the photo)
2. You connect the preasure regulator to the adapter(left side of the photo).
When you look at the photo you can see a rubber seal inside on the right side. This side you have to connect to the gas cylinder.

 

[Snatsbats]

Nembutal doesn't fail lol

But the person can fail the method. They can throw up from the bad taste. Also they can throw up after they passed out and they can be found and 'saved'.

 

[outrider567]

But the person can fail the method. They can throw up from the bad taste. Also they can throw up after they passed out and they can be found and 'saved'.

True, they can fail to take an antiemetic beforehand

 

[Snatsbats]

True, they can fail to take an antiemetic beforehand

You know there are people who take an antiemetic and still thrown up SN.

 

[outrider567]

You know there are people who take an antiemetic and still thrown up SN.

True

 

[endmypain]

You know there are people who take an antiemetic and still thrown up SN.

Agree

 

[Misgendered Person]

https://www.tek-diver-shop.de/media/image/product/11383/lg/gewindeadapter-druckluft-g5-8-innengewinde-stickstoff-w24-innengewinde.webp

1. You connect the adapter to the nitrogen cylinder tightly (right side of the photo)
2. You connect the preasure regulator to the adapter(left side of the photo).
When you look at the photo you can see a rubber seal inside on the right side. This side you have to connect to the gas cylinder.

But the link is not opening

 

[Kurt]

Before you buy an adapter you have to decide which gas you wanna use. The adapter shown on the photo is for nitrogen. Do you want to use nitrogen?
The mask is ok. I have the same.

There is no amazon link, so I can´t check the regulator.
By the way, I´m not sure if it´s a good idea the post the link where to order the adpater.

Looking at the mask you mention you have, how is your exhalation of CO2 expressed out ?