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Jello Biafra

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Sep 9, 2024
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I'm not talking about relying on insulin to ctb - I realize that your chances are 50/50? Not sure.

But that doesn't matter.

I was watching a true crime documentary on Netflix about bad roommates and in the story a woman's roommate keeps secretly injecting her with insulin (she's not diabetic) and every time the victim says "I woke up later in the hospital" - meaning she lost consciousness.

If injecting insulin to a non-diabetic person makes you lose consciousness, wouldn't be real easy to put a large plastic bag over your head, inject, and then you lose consciousness and die?

In fact, any drug that could potentially make you "black out" or lose consciousness, you could do the same thing. I mean, I understand timing would be a thing, but you could use a very large bag, one that gives you enough time to breathe until you pass out.

What am I missing here? Maybe you wouldn't necessarily pass out from an insulin OD?

I mean, of someone were clever enough, you might be able to do this with alcohol. What if you were to seal off a bathroom or something with plastic sheeting. I mean so you have like an hour or something until the O2 runs out and then just got to the point of being blackout drunk - and just before you pass out you seal yourself in the room that's already prepared (obviously wouldn't want to prepare while drunk)?

I know the buildup of CO2 causes panic, but would it be enough to wake you from an insulin OD? Enough from being blackout drunk?

I wish I could get my hands on whatever the anesthetic they use before surgery is. That would be perfect. You could have the bag over your head and sealed, inject the anesthetic, and no need to worry about how much ODs fail or vomiting. You will suffocate within just a few minutes. Wouldn't you?
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
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It's not the insulin that "knocks" you out, it's the decline in blood sugar that the insulin causes. That being said, yeah, anyone whose blood sugar falls to a certain level can go unconscious. It's not instantaneous, though. Not sure how you'd figure out the "timing" needed for how large a bag you'd need (to supply O2 to you) while waiting on the insulin to drive down your blood sugar to a level where you'd go unconscious. That might vary somewhat from person to person.

As an example, back when my dad was alive, he had a blood sugar "crisis", whereby I found him unresponsive. When paramedics arrived, they measured his blood sugar to be 38, yet he wasn't fully unconscious. He was still "awake", yet couldn't move or communicate.
 
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plastic

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Jan 16, 2021
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I have problems with low blood sugar. My vision gets really bad, I start shaking and panicking... and it's not pleasant at all. I'm not sure that someone in that state would find it easier to suffocate. In my experience, suffocating with a plastic bag would be several times more scary and difficult than with the bag itself in its normal state.
 
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Jello Biafra

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Sep 9, 2024
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I have problems with low blood sugar. My vision gets really bad, I start shaking and panicking... and it's not pleasant at all. I'm not sure that someone in that state would find it easier to suffocate. In my experience, suffocating with a plastic bag would be several times more scary and difficult than with the bag itself in its normal state.

Thanks for the perspective.

I have no way to obtain insulin, my question was kind of more out of curiosity than anything.

I still intend to use a plastic bag (a large one that allows me to breathe normally for a minute or 2), however I have to be sure that whatever causes loss of consciousness is enough to really put me out so the hypercapnic alarms (air hunger) don't wake me back up.

Appreciate the reply though.