braketimez

braketimez

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It looks like the search function isn't working, so I've got a quick question...

Is information about sourcing N found in the PPH?
 
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ITryHard

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Does that mean that we have to buy the PPH to get that info? It's rather pricey. (I know N is too, but I like to pick my battles when it comes to spending my money.)
 
braketimez

braketimez

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Does that mean that we have to buy the PPH to get that info? It's rather pricey. (I know N is too, but I like to pick my battles when it comes to spending my money.)

I know there is a free copy floating around somewhere. The search function for the forum isn't working, though.
 
kcn2020

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After reading PPeH, it's definitely N which is the best option regardless of the difficulty to obtain it. There are a few encrypted email addresses at the end of the book (around page 270) and you can contact them if you want. Apparently, it's legit per the PPeH although I would be careful considering you might be breaking local laws and your shipment might be seized by customs, with a big fine and/or criminal record in bonus.
 
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braketimez

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After reading PPeH, it's definitely N which is the best option regardless of the difficulty to obtain it. There are a few encrypted email addresses at the end of the book (around page 270) and you can contact them if you want. Apparently, it's legit per the PPeH although I would be careful considering you might be breaking local laws and your shipment might be seized by customs, with a big fine and/or criminal record in bonus.

It should be noted that some people have been scammed by vendors of those email addresses and/or there aren't responses to inquires to those emails.

As of late, it would seem the most reliable vendor is C. Other than that, it looks like N is pretty much non accessible, and the age of its distribution is coming to a close.
 
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RicRac

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I wish i could get some but it seems so complicated. :/
 
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It should be noted that some people have been scammed by vendors of those email addresses and/or there aren't responses to inquires to those emails.

As of late, it would seem the most reliable vendor is C. Other than that, it looks like N is pretty much non accessible, and the age of its distribution is coming to a close.

I couldn't agree more on that. Plus one must not forget the fact that customs are now aware of the N importations, and they will try to block shipments and prosecute individuals who try to import it. Unless you are an American living close to Mexico and you can afford a trip there to buy one bottle, I wouldn't advise anyone to pay huge amounts in BTC to an unknown individual hiding behind an encrypted email address.
 
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braketimez

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I wish i could get some but it seems so complicated. :/
It definitely is.

I was close to ordering some from C yesterday, but there are so many steps to ensuring a secure and encrypted process that it doesn't seem to be worth the risk.

It's still tempting though, because one user this past month allegedly got N from C and just CTB.
 
kcn2020

kcn2020

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I wish i could get some but it seems so complicated. :/

One must consider other methods. If you live in a country where firearms are easily obtained, it can be a viable option. An exit bag could also be a viable option although I don't like it personally.

I made a thread about cyanide as it can also be considered as a viable option. You can look it.
 
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One must consider other methods. If you live in a country where firearms are easily obtained, it can be a viable option. An exit bag could also be a viable option although I don't like it personally.

I made a thread about cyanide as it can also be considered as a viable option. You can look it.

Isn't cyanide difficult to access?
 
kcn2020

kcn2020

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Isn't cyanide difficult to access?

It depends. I have easy access so for me it can be a viable option. Also, some chemical suppliers will sell potassium cyanide aka KCN if the buyer provide motivation behind the purchase, like dissolving gold for plating stuff.

I won't sell cyanide personally, but if you search the web for potential local suppliers in your country, I am sure you can find some.
 
braketimez

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It depends. I have easy access so for me it can be a viable option. Also, some chemical suppliers will sell potassium cyanide aka KCN if the buyer provide motivation behind the purchase, like dissolving gold for plating stuff.

I won't sell cyanide personally, but if you search the web for potential local suppliers in your country, I am sure you can find some.
How sure are you that suppliers will readily hand it over as long as the buyer provides a simple explanation? Won't suppliers ask for some sort of proof by pictures or something at least?
 
kcn2020

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How sure are you that suppliers will readily hand it over as long as the buyer provides a simple explanation? Won't suppliers ask for some sort of proof by pictures or something at least?

Well, I baited one supplier with my university email address by claiming I was a senior student in chemical engineering. Which is false, since I only did two years of undergraduate studies in theoretical physics.

The potassium cyanide was received in a small plastic recipient containing the characteristic white crystals, with a claimed purity of 97%.
 
braketimez

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Well, I baited one supplier with my university email address by claiming I was a senior student in chemical engineering. Which is false, since I only did two years of undergraduate studies in theoretical physics.

The potassium cyanide was received in a small plastic recipient containing the characteristic white crystals, with a claimed purity of 97%.
I can see how that would seem credible to a supplier, but I don't have a university address. I don't know, I'll consider trying.
 
kcn2020

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I can see how that would seem credible to a supplier, but I don't have a university address. I don't know, I'll consider trying.

Here where I live in Europe, I have a few suppliers that won't ask for ID and/or proof when purchasing. It might be different in the US or Canada though.

That being said, while I am sure that cyanide is effective and fairly quick, I am not so sure about the pain aspect. In theory, it should not be painful, but some reports indicate individuals struggling for long minutes.
 
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Here where I live in Europe, I have a few suppliers that won't ask for ID and/or proof when purchasing. It might be different in the US or Canada though.

That being said, while I am sure that cyanide is effective and fairly quick, I am not so sure about the pain aspect. In theory, it should not be painful, but some reports indicate individuals struggling for long minutes.

Can I PM you? I got some questions about this.
 
Thegoldenapples

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It should be noted that some people have been scammed by vendors of those email addresses and/or there aren't responses to inquires to those emails.

As of late, it would seem the most reliable vendor is C. Other than that, it looks like N is pretty much non accessible, and the age of its distribution is coming to a close.

Do you think the distribution of N is coming to an end? I can't try get mine for another month or so? I just really hoping that I'll be able to get it. A lot of people still seem to be able to get it
It should be noted that some people have been scammed by vendors of those email addresses and/or there aren't responses to inquires to those emails.

As of late, it would seem the most reliable vendor is C. Other than that, it looks like N is pretty much non accessible, and the age of its distribution is coming to a close.

Do you not think that A is still a source to try? Otherwise, why would they be the PPH?
 
braketimez

braketimez

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Do you think the distribution of N is coming to an end? I can't try get mine for another month or so? I just really hoping that I'll be able to get it. A lot of people still seem to be able to get it

Do you not think that A is still a source to try? Otherwise, why would they be the PPH?

I mean in the grand scheme of things, it would seem things are coming to a close, but yeah, right now C is a reliable vendor from the looks of it. Just make sure if you go for it, you learn the ins and outs of finding the correct Empire Market address (there are a lot of fakes out there).
 
Thegoldenapples

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I mean in the grand scheme of things, it would seem things are coming to a close, but yeah, right now C is a reliable vendor from the looks of it. Just make sure if you go for it, you learn the ins and outs of finding the correct Empire Market address (there are a lot of fakes out there).

What happened to A though? I dont think I can get from C. He doesn't ship to my country.
 
braketimez

braketimez

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What happened to A though? I dont think I can get from C. He doesn't ship to my country.

Nobody really knows. I think I read somewhere the feds might have been onto him. I don't quite remember though.
 
Thegoldenapples

Thegoldenapples

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Nobody really knows. I think I read somewhere the feds might have been onto him. I don't quite remember though.

Do you how do you start a new thread? I can't figure it out....
 
braketimez

braketimez

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Do you how do you start a new thread? I can't figure it out....

If you're on the computer, go to the forum you want to post in.
At the top right corner there should be a button to start a thread.

So it's:

1. Go to the top left corner of the screen, click on "Forums"
2. Click the forum you want to post in
3. Click on "Post Thread" in the top right corner.
 
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