Discussion Quantum immortality

[Corovaner]

Do you believe in quantum immortality? If it's true, CTB becomes far less scareful. Just a chance to overwrite all your mistakes.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I don' t believe in any kind of immortality

A human is just a 3 pound brain, cells, an animal, a machine, chemical reactions, a bug

The connections between brain cells fool it into thinking it's something else

Does a bug have immortality? No

it's a comfort to me knowing i will cease to exist forever onward one micro second after my brain dies.

that means i won't ever have the chance of suffering a trillion times worse than i can imagine.

yes we all will die , but many of us will suffer extremely before Death sometimes years of suffering that nothing is worth going through

my objective is to skip any extreme torture or long lasting unbearable pain and get to the safety of non-existence foreever. only in eternal non-existence will i be out of harms way. while i'm alive or conscious i'm in harms way or have the ability and chance to suffer extremely

This me the brain creates is a horrible abomination because it can suffer unending constant unbearable pain

As examples the boats , brazen bull and other tortures

They tortured many and one guy in the boats torture for 17 days. Tied them between 2 boats immobilized. Fed them milk and honey let maggots eat them slowly from the inside out. Yeah worms Will eat us all but we'll be dead and can't feel it.

That's the difference between dead and living. Only while living or conscious can u suffer.

Scaphism: The Horrors of Ancient Torture and Execution

Terrible Torture

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[nihilistic_dragon]

Any sort of immortality terrifies me. I am not sure how it makes things less scary for you, but I am happy you can find comfort in that.
I get comfort from thinking there is absolutely nothing when we pass. Not from thinking I have to open my eyes again to some other stupid form of existence. I personally just want to disappear forever as if I never existed. I wish I could press some button and just erase myself, every memory of me, every cell, every chemical that makes up my body, everything just poof...gone!!

 

[kamyzyak]

I don't quite understand how quantum immortality relates to being able to overwrite my mistakes, if I remember correctly, that's not what this theory is about.

I do believe in some form of immortality/eternal return, though. I don't think memories and personality are preserved, but I see the existence and feeling of Self as continuous and everlasting. You can only experience something by existing => you cannot experience non-existence => your entire subjective experience consists only of existence.

 

[Corovaner]

I don't quite understand how quantum immortality relates to being able to overwrite my mistakes, if I remember correctly, that's not what this theory is about.

I do believe in some form of immortality/eternal return, though. I don't think memories and personality are preserved, but I see the existence and feeling of Self as continuous and everlasting. You can only experience something by existing => you cannot experience non-existence => your entire subjective experience consists only of existence.

Perhaps I get this theory wrong, but it comforts me a lot. In the meantime I've got my SN, metoclopramide and patacetamol. It is strange, but I don't feel fear, only excitement. Plan to do it in august.
Like I have waited this moment my whole life. Just inevitability.

 

[kamyzyak]

Perhaps I get this theory wrong, but it comforts me a lot. In the meantime I've got my SN, metoclopramide and patacetamol. It is strange, but I don't feel fear, only excitement. Plan to do it in august.
Like I have waited this moment my whole life. Just inevitability.

I'm sorry that things turned out this way for you, but I'm glad that you were able to find your solace, it's worth a lot. I also dream that I will have another chance to get a good ending. Living this life over and over again in different variations is probably one of the scenarios I like the most. If I were sure that this is the case, I would immediately go to find out if I would be more lucky with my health next time.

 

[Corovaner]

I'm sorry that things turned out this way for you, but I'm glad that you were able to find your solace, it's worth a lot. I also dream that I will have another chance to get a good ending. Living this life over and over again in different variations is probably one of the scenarios I like the most. If I were sure that this is the case, I would immediately go to find out if I would be more lucky with my health next time.

I have health issues too, it's my main reason. It was bearable, but in 7th february of this year it became not cause of stupid nurse's mistake. By 10 june I will try to fix this, but my attempt will fail more likely. Nah, better be gone in my 30, than in 50 being disabled subhuman.
I'm sorry for being too chatty, but I haven't somebody I can talk with. Didn't try to offense anybody.

 

[Endlichkeit]

You have probably misunderstood this concept.
It requires a system in a superposition, like a qubit, and a device which is entangled with that system and which will kill you instantly, so that you won't have any subseqquent conscious experience. Regular suicide methods do not offer this.
However, this will not save you from biological ageing and death, so this is not really immortality. You would only be "immortal" in the sense that you survive each iteration of quantum suicide.
Moreover, this experiment can only work if many-worlds interpretation (MWI) is correct, but practical implementation could still be impossible.

If MWI is correct, we can speculate that there is at least one branch in which your consciousness continues to exist indefinitely, no matter what, even after the heat death of the universe, because there is always a non-zero probability that it will not cease to exist. In MWI, it is a physical necessity that each probability, no matter how low, is realised in a some universe. But in most universes, you will die within the expected timeframe.

There are dozens of interpretations of quantum mechanics, and MWI is just another one. It has many inconsistencies, so it would be unreasonable to accept such consequences from it.

 

[Corovaner]

You have probably misunderstood this concept.
It requires a system in a superposition, like a qubit, and a device which is entangled with that system and which will kill you instantly, so that you won't have any subseqquent conscious experience. Regular suicide methods do not offer this.
However, this will not save you from biological ageing and death, so this is not really immortality. You would only be "immortal" in the sense that you survive each iteration of quantum suicide.
Moreover, this experiment can only work if many-worlds interpretation (MWI) is correct, but practical implementation could still be impossible.

If MWI is correct, we can speculate that there is at least one branch in which your consciousness continues to exist indefinitely, no matter what, even after the heat death of the universe, because there is always a non-zero probability that it will not cease to exist. In MWI, it is a physical necessity that each probability, no matter how low, is realised in a some universe. But in most universes, you will die within the expected timeframe.

There are dozens of interpretations of quantum mechanics, and MWI is just another one. It has many inconsistencies, so it would be unreasonable to accept such consequences from it.

I understand it, but idea of re-live life and erase mistakes obsesses and comforts me at the same time. This theory gives me something like that. I don't feel fear, thanks to it.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't believe in it personally and, I'd loathe to live my life over again. A lot of the bad things that happened were unavoidable. Maybe they wouldn't happen in a different iteration but, I just think life's too random to believe there's a version where everything goes well.

Similarly, I hold anti-natalist beliefs for the same reason. Life is guaranteed to shower us in at least some shit. I don't think it's fair to expose a sentient being to that risk. That's just a personal feeling really. If it comforts you though then, I hope you get your wish.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

"Quantum immortality"

Energy = Mass and Mass = Energy

Even in a perfect vacuum particles and their antiparticles come into existence and destroy themselves into energy once they "meet".

This is the "immortality" you probably refer to but it has nothing to do with any kind of consciousness.

 

[TemporaryToTesting]

Quantum immortality is both oddly comforting and terrifying to me. It would be comforting if this consciousness existed some other time, some other place, away from where I am and away from my worries. It would be terrifying if it just continued from where I left off like I had just opted to respawn on a game over screen.