Discussion Psychiatry is a scam

[Versailles]

Most of us here are the evidence that psychiatry is a scam.

 

[Amumu]

It's a very recent "science" since it only dates back to the 20th century and more especially the second half of the 20th century with the discovery of ADs. What did we get from that? Idk. Maybe it can help some people we don't see on this website or people who are in recovery.

It can also be detrimental unfortunately, as experienced by some people on SaSU, with forced hospitalisation for instance.

 

[Symbiote]

Psychiatry is social eugenics in disguise.

 

[luten]

Most of us here are the evidence that psychiatry is a scam.

Psychiatry did not cause my mental health problems, my physical problems, and abusive childhood caused my mental issues, and the reason why I am on medications from a very young age. Yes, I am on an overdose benzodiazipines, opiates, etc , and yes, it has a very negative effect on my mental health, but who to blame? psychiatry, or the things that caused the need for these medications to begin with?

 

[killedbypsychiatry]

Yes it is definitely a scam. The vast majority of people who go see a psychiatrist don't need drugs and there's nothing wrong with their brains. They are there because of trauma, oppression, sociopolitical issues (inequality, structural violence, poverty, ...) etc or in some cases a medical issue that needs to be solved (neurological problems, some neuro autoimmune issues, inflammation, thyroid issues etc...) the chemical imbalance theory has been disproved many times and psychiatrists still preach it because that pseudoscientific theory is the only way they can sell their drugs and maintain their stupid institution that harms much more than it helps.
Psychiatrist is definitely junk science and shouldn't even exist. Neurology is medicine, psychiatrist is bs to control society and maintain a status quo. I've unfortunately witnessed lost of lives destroyed and suicides because of psychiatry's harm.
"Psychiatry is not broken. The system was designed this way. Psychiatry is not a legitimate field of medicine and cannot be reformed. It needs to be abolished. To not message this would be to condone a form of structural violence that not only has disabled and killed millions of people, it also maintains and even furthers the systemic social and economic injustices these individuals represent." -shep, SA

 

[charlotte greentea]

I think psychiatry has fundamental problems because those who practice it often do not take into account how the material conditions of our lives impact our mental health. The world around us is crumbling and many of us are in constant precarious positions if not in outright poverty. This would make most people depressed! Instead, psychiatrists are taught to ascribe any mental anguish to "chemical imbalances" that they don't even bother to verify exist. Hell, there are some psychiatric drugs that we don't even understand the mechanisms of! Psychiatry also rarely ever tries to address how other illnesses could impact our mental health as well.
I don't think it's a complete scam, it's just that the way professionals employ modern psychiatric thought is not adequate for a world in which so many people have real, material problems that are causing them to want to die. The structure of capitalism and the stranglehold it has on the minds who live under it make it so that the material issues that stem from capital cannot be blamed, because they can never be wrong. It must be in your head.

 

[killedbypsychiatry]

only dates back to the 20th century and more especially the second half of the 20th century with the discovery of ADs.

I believe it started way before, in the late 17th century there where already asylums for the insane, and I believe it was until the 19th century where psychiatry began more formally followed by lobotomies, insulin comma therapy, electroshock therapy, restrains, etc.

 

[FuneralCry]

I think psychiatry has done more harm than good as patients are often prescribed unsuitable medication that has caused them many harmful side effects that has ruined their lives. Many patients are wrongly diagnosed as you cannot prove whether someone has an mental disorder, it is based on their observation. People will struggle to get the correct help. The industry is just a way to make money.

 

[it's_all_a_game]

Certainly it is. I have taken sertraline, aripiprazole, fluoxetine, etc. and NONE of them did anything. I was just as depressed as before. Either my body is effed-up or it's placebo.

 

[Carrotcake]

Hell, there are some psychiatric drugs that we don't even understand the mechanisms of!

Some?? More like all of them. Psychiatric drugs are just one big guessing game.

 

[Celerity]

Dangerous sugar pills. The only semi-effective ones like antipsychotics, stims, benzos, and lithium will fuck you up.

 

[Rayzieka]

Dangerous sugar pills. The only semi-effective ones like antipsychotics, stims, benzos, and lithium will fuck you up.

I've been on every anti psychotic they commonly prescribe, benzos and lithium and I question every day if they're just sugar pills as well.
The only thing they do is give me akathisia. Anything else I've noticed could be just day to day mood changes and circumstances.
I absolutely don't trust them at the moment and I wish I could.

 

[Celerity]

I've been on every anti psychotic they commonly prescribe, benzos and lithium and I question every day if they're just sugar pills as well.
The only thing they do is give me akathisia. Anything else I've noticed could be just day to day mood changes and circumstances.
I absolutely don't trust them at the moment and I wish I could.

I definitely get beneficial effects from stims and antipsychotics. Do they help ease my mental illness? Not particularly.

 

[LastFlowers]

Psychiatry did not cause my mental health problems, my physical problems, and abusive childhood caused my mental issues, and the reason why I am on medications from a very young age. Yes, I am on an overdose benzodiazipines, opiates, etc , and yes, it has a very negative effect on my mental health, but who to blame? psychiatry, or the things that caused the need for these medications to begin with?

It does cause some people's issues and it worsens other's.
So it is to blame for quite a bit.
If someone got a wound from falling off their bike, then I am not responsible for that wound, but if people then tell that person to come to me for "help" and I stick my finger in their wound and twist it, then I am certainly to blame for creating more torture and taking advantage of any previous trauma.

 

[PsychosisGirls]

Not 5 years ago, our identity was considered a disorder much the same way homosexuality was a few more decades ago. Most medical literature still says it is.

I've given up on getting them to help me. Maybe try for some ketamine/MDMA for our PTSD but that's it.

 

[WornOutLife]

Therapy and psychiatry, unfortunately, most of the times don't work.
I know some people who have got better but as regards therapy, is just a joke for me!

Psychiatry, to be honest, is now helping me because my psychiatrist is an awesome guy who just asks me specific and interesting questions such as "How many times have you thought about ctb this week?" "Do you think you might ctb soon?" "When you're in your UPS, how many hours does that state last?" etc and the gives me the pills I need. I love him lol.

 

[loopylou]

Dangerous sugar pills. The only semi-effective ones like antipsychotics, stims, benzos, and lithium will fuck you up.

I was told lithium is better for me than Quetiapine by a psychotherapist. My mental health team won't switch me from Quetiapine even tho evidently it's not working for me

 

[luten]

It does cause some people's issues and it worsens other's.
So it is to blame for quite a bit.
If someone got a wound from falling off their bike, then I am not responsible for that wound, but if people then tell that person to come to me for "help" and I stick my finger in their wound and twist it, then I am certainly to blame for creating more torture and taking advantage of any previous trauma.

Fact is some people benefit from psychiatry, most recently a regular member of SS left, he said his medication is finally working. he found love, and he said that suicide is no longer an option for him, he is in his 40's.

There are millions of people who benefit from psychiatry.

I see people want to blame psychiatrists for their problems, instead of taking ownership of their own situation (no matter what the cause is), it is still their life, and their body), but it is easier to blame their doctor, than it is to come-up with ways to survive.

I myself are negatively effected by these medications, but it gives me no right to say that psychiatry is a scam.

Many people come on here, with major psychiatric problems, people who perhaps can benefit from psychiatry (give it a try), but when they see posting like this on SS, they wouldn't even bother to seek for help, because people on SS pointing them to another direction, perhaps a fatal one.


By calling psychiatry a scam, you giving medical advise to someone you know nothing about, someone who could've benefited from a 3 month treatment.

 

[PsychosisGirls]

By calling psychiatry a scam, you giving medical advise to someone you know nothing about, someone who could've benefited from a 3 month treatment.

What, like a ward? Thanks but no thanks, these people have already poked at me enough.

 

[lifesucksiguess]

Yes it is definitely a scam. The vast majority of people who go see a psychiatrist don't need drugs and there's nothing wrong with their brains. They are there because of trauma, oppression, sociopolitical issues (inequality, structural violence, poverty, ...) etc or in some cases a medical issue that needs to be solved (neurological problems, some neuro autoimmune issues, inflammation, thyroid issues etc...) the chemical imbalance theory has been disproved many times and psychiatrists still preach it because that pseudoscientific theory is the only way they can sell their drugs and maintain their stupid institution that harms much more than it helps.
Psychiatrist is definitely junk science and shouldn't even exist. Neurology is medicine, psychiatrist is bs to control society and maintain a status quo. I've unfortunately witnessed lost of lives destroyed and suicides because of psychiatry's harm.
"Psychiatry is not broken. The system was designed this way. Psychiatry is not a legitimate field of medicine and cannot be reformed. It needs to be abolished. To not message this would be to condone a form of structural violence that not only has disabled and killed millions of people, it also maintains and even furthers the systemic social and economic injustices these individuals represent." -shep, SA

My main problem with psychiatry is the over diagnosis and prescribing medication to treat depression. Medication might change your brain chemistry and make you happier, but it isn't going to fix the circumstances that make you unhappy. Therapy might help there if the circumstances are legitimately under your control. Often times they are not under your control.

But to dismiss psychiatry outright seems a bit too extreme. There are some mental problems that need definitely need medication to treat. Schizophrenia, for example, seems like a good candidate for that.

Someone with bipolar disorder prone to manic disorders might be well served with medication.

ADD/ADHD, in my mind, are also over diagnosed. Especially for young boys. But this doesn't change the fact that these disorders do exist and in cases where they do exist they are probably well managed through the use of medication.

The biggest problem in psychiatry, in my opinion, is how we treat depression. We've decided that it can just be medicated away, but like you said, the evidence for antidepressants being effective isn't very good.



If we can fix how we percieve depression (and ADD/ADHD in primarily children) then that would probably fix most of the problems in this field.

 

[killedbypsychiatry]

But to dismiss psychiatry outright seems a bit too extreme. There are some mental problems that need definitely need medication to treat. Schizophrenia, for example, seems like a good candidate for that.

I agree that there's cases where drugs can help such as in psychosis states. however, antipsychotics should be used in far less amounts and less time than psychiatrists use them. Chronic exposure to antipsychotics can shrink the brain and greatly reduce the chances of recovering. Plus not to mention all of the health awful effects that antipsychotics have. There's also ways to treat schizophrenia and psychosis in a drug free way. As many times the causes of schizophrenia are trauma, other medical problems, or substance induced and can be resolved by treating the root cause. However I'm not saying the possibility of using antipsychotics shouldn't be there for those who want them (giving the patients FULL informed consent, something psychiatrist rarely do).

nonetheless, some drugs being useful in extreme states doesn't change the fact that the whole foundation of psychiatry is flawed and that is still an institution that has harmed many and is still full of pseudoscience and conflicts of interests.

 

[Ch92921]

I know people who had benzo withdrawal symptoms up to 5-10 years!!! Thats how benzos fuck with your brain!

I also know people who had tardive dysknesia because of antipsychiotics and it was permanent!
I will cancel my therapy. It does not solve anything. At most my psychiatris trys to manipulate me, but I dont go for that anymore.