Nymph

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So I go to a psychiatrist and I have told her that I want to ctb and that I have a method but she didn't even ask me more questions and just wanted me to continue talking about other stuff. I only have an appointment with her once every 3 months or so and it's not enough. I wanted to have more appointments but she's paid by government (insurance) so apparently I'm not worthy of getting more. But it's like she's not acknowledging my suffering, she could at least send me to some other doctor so that I can get more help but not just leave me hanging. If I ctb, my family could sue her, not that I'd wanted that to happen but before I didn't have any confirmation from a different person if she was really ignoring my problems.. but after looking up professionals myself and contacting multiple for months (endless calling, emails, messaging any pdoctor possible) some of them told me that my current psychiatrist definitely dismissed me. I'm just confused, someone could already ctb over this-that they weren't taken seriously by a professional. It's like..you try to go out there and get some help but you end up being dismissed.. what the hell. How's anyone supposed to get help if they're treated like this. They all say that we should go to a professional, get help, go to therapy but then we end up like this-ignored.
 
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I would be very frustrated to be looking for help and end up like this. I've never been to therapy but so I can't say much, but I would surely end up leaving her with experiences like this. I get the impression that there are many "specialist" without vocation who have their questions canned and do not pay attention. It's regrettable that you can only have 1 appointment every 3 months...

I'm sorry that you go through this, you have the will to keep trying with these bad experiences.
 
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One appoint.ent every three months is not near enough for a person considering to ctb. I'm sorry insurance won't cover more, it's really a shame!
And her dismissing your suicidal thoughts is as well. She should be aware that her reaction or lack of reaction can have a huge impact on people in such vulnerable positions.
Is there any way you could change psychiatrists maybe?
 
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Mentalmick

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They really couldn't care less about suicide. They always resort to the old "if someone really wants to kill themselves then they just do it". Yeah, fuck off, they do it because mental health people have never took them seriously and they can't take the pain anymore. You read about it in papers all the time and their reply is always the same "we can't comment on individual cases" which means we really don't care.
 
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Angst Filled Fuck Up

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I empathize. It's unbelievable how many psychiatrists and therapists just piss about and don't take their responsibilities seriously. I recently realized they basically have a free pass to do whatever because the buck stops with them - there's nobody monitoring them. They have canceled on my girlfriend who has desperately needed help over and over again. They think nothing of bailing on their patients or going on vacation randomly or whatever else, while we are struggling just to function and get out of bed. It's crazy.
 
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Sep 4, 2019
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It's not my psychiatrist, but I feel my therapist doesn't give a shit about me anymore. I mention my ctb thoughts and all this bitch says is "well before you do ctb...*insert do this*" though I do feel like he's pro choice which I like, but I just don't think he cares about me anymore so I'm dropping his ass after 3 years not that I saw him a lot because I was constantly in and out treatment facilities.
 
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He probably thinks there's nothing he can do about it, he's made a calculated decision that you won't ctb in the short term, and he doesn't want to reinforce thoughts of suicide by rewarding it with a response. Hmmm
 
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Phychiatrist only have the job to give you medication right? They only are there to evaluate if you have to take it or not. At least mine always said I need to go to a therapist and my appoiments with him were just to evaluate how pills works with me.
 
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Nymph

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One appoint.ent every three months is not near enough for a person considering to ctb. I'm sorry insurance won't cover more, it's really a shame!
And her dismissing your suicidal thoughts is as well. She should be aware that her reaction or lack of reaction can have a huge impact on people in such vulnerable positions.
Is there any way you could change psychiatrists maybe?
Probably not any time soon, there's just this one that's available for me. But I'm looking for psychologists and after I talk to them they might help me find a new one or send a request to me psychiatrist that I should change one but not sure how that will go. Thank you for you nice words though:)
It's not my psychiatrist, but I feel my therapist doesn't give a shit about me anymore. I mention my ctb thoughts and all this bitch says is "well before you do ctb...*insert do this*" though I do feel like he's pro choice which I like, but I just don't think he cares about me anymore so I'm dropping his ass after 3 years not that I saw him a lot because I was constantly in and out treatment facilities.
That really sucks, I wish we could get the support we need. While I don't want to be forced to live I also want to feel that someone cares if I'd ctb or something ya know, and I don't want to fully give up yet since I can't even ctb yet. :( it's sad
He probably thinks there's nothing he can do about it, he's made a calculated decision that you won't ctb in the short term, and he doesn't want to reinforce thoughts of suicide by rewarding it with a response. Hmmm
Maybe but it's a pretty dumb thing to do, she doesn't think I'd ctb probably because I'm young and she thinks it's just a phase or whatever but that's not true obviously and no one should assume that. I really wish I could change her but it's not really possible atm
Phychiatrist only have the job to give you medication right? They only are there to evaluate if you have to take it or not. At least mine always said I need to go to a therapist and my appoiments with him were just to evaluate how pills works with me.
Meds are the main point of psychiatrist but we would still talk about my problems and it was similar to a psychologist session. But she wasn't even good at the meds part. She said I exhausted all of my meds options and that there aren't any more to try but I didn't even try the first generation meds:/
 
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Regen

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I am so sorry that you had this experience!

I have experienced almost exactly the same thing. It was traumatic and I was really completely desperate. So everything escalated sometime after months and instead of at least getting help then, the psychiatrist stopped working with me. She thought I wanted to manipulate. But nothing was further from my mind. In four years I never manipulate and she knows that. I cant understand it. She disregarded every rule. If I had died at that time, my relatives could have claimed damages. But only in theory, of course, because they didn't know what had happened before. She had made mistakes that, in theory, would have cost her her approbation, but she would have had no problem getting away with it even if I had died.

My experience with psychiatrists is that they often only proceed according to pattern x and work through the patients briefly and superficially. My salvation was that I found a really good psychologist by a huge coincidence.

Try to change psychiatrists. Ask someone to help you find a psychologist. Maybe there is a counselling centre that can help. Here, psychiatrists are only useful for medication, for everything else you need a good psychologist. I don't try anything with psychiatrists any more. Unfortunately I don't have any better tips either, I'm very sorry!

The care for people with suicidal thoughts is catastrophic. For similarly fatal physical illnesses, the treatment would be completely different......

Take care of yourself!
 
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The healthcare system is heavily biased in many ways.
There are medical textbooks that still say that "black people experience less pain than others" which is very much so not true.
All the time doctors are dismissing women's pain as menstrual cramps when it's actually ovarian cysts or endometriosis.
I just read a news story today about a man with leg pain so bad he couldnt walk. When he mentioned he was bipolar to the doctors, they immediately dismissed his pain as mental problem and made him crawl out of the hospital. Turns out his immune system was attacking the nerves in his legs.
And then theres just genuine apathy. All the therapists I went to only ever wanted to do CBT, even after I had told them I had tried it multiple times before and it never worked. They put me on every SSRI in the book before they did genetic testing to find out that SSRIs are completely ineffectual on me.
Like people wonder why minorities dont trust doctors and like? Do 2 minutes of research and you'll see?
 
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I can relate to your situation so much!
My psychiatrist just listens to me for some minutes and always prescribes me the same meds.
My therapist sucks. She only asks "how are you today?" And "what are your plans for tomorrow?"

Are these people really "professional help?" I don't think so!
 
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Emily_Numb

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A psychiatrist is NOT a therapist.
People on this site need to understand that.
If you want someone to 'talk about your problems' with, you need a therapist, psychologist or a counsellors.
 
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Psychiatrists think they're smart. They'll say you were doing it for attention and then they will tell you anything to get you out of their face.
 
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They don't. My psychiatrist thinks giving me medication will solve my mental and physical pain. I had been experiencing sleep paralysis and auditory hallucinations, and this person thinks that I should just keep on taking my medication and that, "I can't be experiencing any side effects, I've been taking these medications for a while now." I know well that my sleep medication is involved. Ugh. Even my doctor doesn't care nor help me. At least my therapist vouches and wants to help me.
 
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They don't. My psychiatrist thinks giving me medication will solve my mental and physical pain. I had been experiencing sleep paralysis and auditory hallucinations, and this person thinks that I should just keep on taking my medication and that, "I can't be experiencing any side effects, I've been taking these medications for a while now." I know well that my sleep medication is involved. Ugh. Even my doctor doesn't care nor help me. At least my therapist vouches and wants to help me.
I can't cope with this sort of thing. Going through something similar myself and I absolutely want to ctb to escape the endless nonsense
 
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nurplexkid

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They really couldn't care less about suicide. They always resort to the old "if someone really wants to kill themselves then they just do it". Yeah, fuck off, they do it because mental health people have never took them seriously and they can't take the pain anymore. You read about it in papers all the time and their reply is always the same "we can't comment on individual cases" which means we really don't care.
They don't want you to do it on their watch but otherwise they couldn't care less. The average mental health professional's knowledge of mental health can fit on postage stamp. Statistically speaking, most people who commit suicide tell someone before hand.
 
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Well... I first told my family I wanted to die and they didn't give a sh**. To make a long story short they acted offended that I dumped that on them. I am broke now so they do not expect any incentives to be available any more - they got what they wanted and have some money aside, thanks to me. I don't even expect anybody to care and just try to find some beta blocker to help with SN.
 
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So I go to a psychiatrist and I have told her that I want to ctb and that I have a method but she didn't even ask me more questions and just wanted me to continue talking about other stuff. I only have an appointment with her once every 3 months or so and it's not enough. I wanted to have more appointments but she's paid by government (insurance) so apparently I'm not worthy of getting more. But it's like she's not acknowledging my suffering, she could at least send me to some other doctor so that I can get more help but not just leave me hanging. If I ctb, my family could sue her, not that I'd wanted that to happen but before I didn't have any confirmation from a different person if she was really ignoring my problems.. but after looking up professionals myself and contacting multiple for months (endless calling, emails, messaging any pdoctor possible) some of them told me that my current psychiatrist definitely dismissed me. I'm just confused, someone could already ctb over this-that they weren't taken seriously by a professional. It's like..you try to go out there and get some help but you end up being dismissed.. what the hell. How's anyone supposed to get help if they're treated like this. They all say that we should go to a professional, get help, go to therapy but then we end up like this-ignored.
Have you got an advocate? They are volunteers who can help you get your doctor to listen to you and your wishes when you feel like you are not being taken seriously. It's usually free. There is more info here: https://www.mind.org.uk/information...pport-and-services/advocacy/what-is-advocacy/
 
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Well, it seems like best case scenario, you say something like that and they just get committed. But you could argue that's not truly caring and is just following protocols by dumping you and your problems on someone else.
 
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Wow. Sounds to me like you could use a place with a care team. The place I go to has me seeing a case manager, therapist, addictions grp therapist and an NP for meds. The only complaint I have is I talk to my case manager way more often then I get to see my therapist do to how overwhelmed they are with new patients and have to cancel to take days off to catch up on paperwork. My NP is extremely kind and will tell me if she is thinking I might need inpatient or she cant help me. She tells me a lot that she really wants to help me. Only issue I have with her is she asked to see me SH wounds which freaked me out. But, all in all Ive had the best experience with this team set up. Maybe worth looking into?
 
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Wow. Sounds to me like you could use a place with a care team. The place I go to has me seeing a case manager, therapist, addictions grp therapist and an NP for meds. The only complaint I have is I talk to my case manager way more often then I get to see my therapist do to how overwhelmed they are with new patients and have to cancel to take days off to catch up on paperwork. My NP is extremely kind and will tell me if she is thinking I might need inpatient or she cant help me. She tells me a lot that she really wants to help me. Only issue I have with her is she asked to see me SH wounds which freaked me out. But, all in all Ive had the best experience with this team set up. Maybe worth looking into?
It depends on where you live and your insurance, I guess. I am happy for you.
 
Nymph

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Wow. Sounds to me like you could use a place with a care team. The place I go to has me seeing a case manager, therapist, addictions grp therapist and an NP for meds. The only complaint I have is I talk to my case manager way more often then I get to see my therapist do to how overwhelmed they are with new patients and have to cancel to take days off to catch up on paperwork. My NP is extremely kind and will tell me if she is thinking I might need inpatient or she cant help me. She tells me a lot that she really wants to help me. Only issue I have with her is she asked to see me SH wounds which freaked me out. But, all in all Ive had the best experience with this team set up. Maybe worth looking into?
We don't really have these sorts of places here unless I go into a ward. But I have a phobia of strip searches and revealing myself. I wouldn't actually mind just going into a ward and having therapy, doctors care for me for a while otherwise. But yeah, there aren't really care teams here unless you fully commit to it (less freedom, no phone, etc)