Discussion pros/cons of sn vs ig/eb

[Sparr0w]

found another thread talking abt this but it went slightly different direction then i want this thread to be in the end so thought id make a new one. heres the thread for reference.

i am far, far away from acquiring anything for either of these methods, but what are people's thoughts on which is easier/cheaper to acquire, easier to set up, easier to ctb with etc? (note for this post: i'm in NZ and 18)

from what ive heard about eb/ig, even if you do the setup correctly SI can still act up (the tiredhorse megathread where they failed 3 times), and because of the setup, its easier to back out last minute. it's also big, bulky, and hard to hide/explain. sn is a poison, on the other hand, so its easy to take it and then you're done.

on the other hand, i can get pretty much everything i need for ig/eb from, like, a grocery store, a hardware store, and then just get the gas from wherever sells it (looks like a certain store has 2 locations near me? not their stores, just the product line, but the gas sold should be big enough). sn, on the other hand, requires me to get a shady link through pms to buy a shady powder that might get caught by customs, plus i have to get anti-emetics and maybe some other shit.

what do you guys think? any good excuses for buying gas (nitrogen, argon)/anti-emetics?
if youve gotten either or both of these methods and/or have attempted them, id greatly appreciate your input!!

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I've never tried it, but from all reports IG is much more peaceful than SN. Obviously, more work to acquire necessary components and setup.

Wouldn't SI stop you from drinking SN, much in the way it would stop you following through with the EB method?

 

[LaVieEnRose]

sn is a poison, on the other hand, so its easy to take it and then you're done.

That would be true if it rendered you unconscious immediately after ingestion but it doesn't. SI will be a serious opponent in any case, but it can take some time to pass out after ingesting SN, which means a pretty long window in which to call for help. I understand only a few breaths of an inert gas are necessary to pass out. So I would say SN is the inferior method when if comes to interference from SI.

SN is cheaper and easier to set up but IG is the superior experience and probably the best way to suicide.

That said 18 is a very young age to end your life and its saddening to imagine what kind of pain you must be in to be contemplating suicide at 18. Would you want to share what is leading you to want to die so young?

 

[Sparr0w]

Wouldn't SI stop you from drinking SN, much in the way it would stop you following through with the EB method?

yeah, but once you have drunk it you're all set, while until you're unconscious (and even after, if you've fucked up your eb) SI can kick in and fuck things up seconds before you wouldve passed out.

of course, in my case, since mixing sn in with food/soda to hide the taste isnt reccomended, if my autistic ass couldnt handle the salty taste id be fucked as well, but yknow.

Obviously, more work to acquire necessary components and setup.

the more i read the tiredhorse megathread the more annoying it seems to set up.... sob.

That would be true if it rendered you unconscious immediately after ingestion but it doesn't. SI will be a serious opponent in any case, but it can take some time to pass out after ingesting SN, which means a pretty long window in which to call for help. I understand only a few breaths of an inert gas are necessary to pass out. So I would say SN is the inferior method when if comes to interference from SI.

huh, good point.

That said 18 is a very young age to end your life and its saddening to imagine what kind of pain you must be in to be contemplating suicide at 18. Would you want to share what is leading you to want to die so young?

tbh my lifes pretty good, i just cant stop thinking abt it if that makes any sense? i dont like the idea of spending my life working and so forth. r/aboringdystopia and all. its a long story and most of it would be melodramatic bullshit thatd make me cringe re-reading it.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

the more i read the tiredhorse megathread the more annoying it seems to set up.... sob.

Lookup Greasemonkey's threads about using gas, as he is more clear and direct to the point on what is needed, how to set things up, etc. It's really not that hard to setup if you can get the components.

yeah, but once you have drunk it you're all set,

Right. But, the trick is getting the SN out of the glass and into your mouth and down to your stomach, knowing that what you're attempting to do is swallow a poison. And, you could still call for help if SI kicked in before falling unconscious.

 

[Sparr0w]

Lookup Greasemonkey's threads about using gas,

ooo, thanks for the tip!

Right. But, the trick is getting the SN out of the glass and into your mouth and down to your stomach, knowing that what you're attempting to do is swallow a poison. And, you could still call for help if SI kicked in before falling unconscious.

i dont think i have to worry about that, one of my attempts from years ago now was attempting to overdose and i had no trouble swallowing the pills. as i mentioned earlier, taste might be an issue, but i dont think id regret it afterwards and call for help or anything.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

ooo, thanks for the tip!

i dont think i have to worry about that, one of my attempts from years ago now was attempting to overdose and i had no trouble swallowing the pills. as i mentioned earlier, taste might be an issue, but i dont think id regret it afterwards and call for help or anything.

Maybe it would work for you if your perception of that method is different than that of IG. I suppose some methods are easier for different people. I know I would like drowning or jumping off a tall building myself.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

He meant GasMonkey, not Greasemonkey, by the way.

 

[Sparr0w]

He meant GasMonkey, not Greasemonkey, by the way.

cool cool

 

[niluski]

I guess one advantage to using sn would be that a full recovery could still be possible after drinking, even once you've gone unconscious. The ig/eb method could result in permanent brain damage if interrupted, so you really have to be certain before attempting.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

tbh my lifes pretty good, i just cant stop thinking abt it if that makes any sense? i dont like the idea of spending my life working and so forth. r/aboringdystopia and all. its a long story and most of it would be melodramatic bullshit thatd make me cringe re-reading it.

Does anyone else have any idea of how you're feeling? If that's what's motivating your suicidal thoughts I'm not sure you have lived enough to say you can't have a worthwhile life.

 

[Sparr0w]

Does anyone else have any idea of how you're feeling? If that's what's motivating your suicidal thoughts I'm not sure you have lived enough to say you can't have a worthwhile life.

my sibling knows, my family is aware bc of a failed attempt that landed me in hospital. i tend to mask my feelings tho so theyre not fully aware. part of my problem is that, when i first started feeling depressed etc, i made a mental rule of not telling people which has spiralled into not asking for help. therapys expensive, i dont want to go to therapy if its just gonna be once a month, and so forth.

im also not planning at the moment for the record, just browsing the different methods. i cant attempt until ive moved to my uni hostel in over a week, and then im a broke fuck so itll take me probably several months to get the cash i need, and by that point ill have had a long time to think about what i want and so forth.

so yeah, i get why you want me to re-think things. ive got time to, dont worry. i might end up heading to therapy if its offered at uni/if i have enough disposal income etc

tbh looking through stuff like this is a pretty good deterrent, it all looks so hard that its not worth it unless im sure, yknow?