Venting Procreation is horrific to me as it’s the source of all human suffering

[FuneralCry]

I find it so horrific and disturbing how humans actually choose to procreate even despite the fact that nobody can suffer from never existing at all. It's criminal to me deciding to impose decades of meaningless suffering onto someone else in an existence that can potentially get so torturous way beyond how anyone could imagine it to.

It just disgusts me how pronatalists create so much harm all for selfish reasons, this human species truly is an abomination, it's such a terrible tragedy to me how this species hasn't gone voluntarily extinct yet. And what makes it even more hellish is how suicide isn't accepted as a valid option even despite the fact we were so unfairly forced into this cruel and pointless existence, it's evil how humans do all they can to ensure that others continue suffering no matter what.

We truly are being punished all because others were selfish enough to so harmfully force life here, I really wish I had access to an instant suicide pill or guaranteed peaceful poison but ideally I wish I could just erase my existence so it's like I never existed at all, it'd be better if existence is erased and forgotten about. It's devastating how they procreate even know human existence is the most undesirable burden with unlimited potential for agony and torment, there's no compassion in deciding to procreate. It absolutely repulses me when people act like causing others to suffer by forcing them into existence even know there is no need to do so is something acceptable when it could never be.

 

[Rubypie41]

I both agree and disagree with some of your points. For many, life can be and is a wonderful experience, so those people are greatful for the opportunity to be here and do the thing's they enjoy and bring them happiness.

For others, they experience the complete opposite and a born into a life of misery for which they wish had never happened.

I've seen both sides, my life before my physical conditions was amazing and I truly enjoyed every minute of it. But now with my physical conditions life is utterly miserable.

My personal view now is that we should only bring someone into this world if the option of assisted suicide is available. If that was the case then you could bring someone into this world knowing they have the option of a peaceful exit if things happen to go wrong for them. Life can be amazing but it can also be very cruel, so if the option of assisted suicide was available to all, then those that truly enjoy life can carry on living it, but for those that don't they have a peaceful way out.

 

[iloverachel]

I understand. Its absolutely scary how much suffering could have been prevented.
800,000 people commit suicide each year, and over 10 million attempt suicide. 400 million people worldwide suffer from depression.
the world is just pain and suffering.

Sure, some people might end up happy and not be diagnosed with any mental illnesses but is that worth the risk? Plus theres cancer, starvation, physical illnesses, chronic pain etc.
Life is a true diabolical abomination

 

[final_countdown12]

800,000 people commit suicide each year, and over 10 million attempt suicide. 400 million people worldwide suffer from depression.
the world is just pain and suffering.

The world has +8.1 Billion people, so unfortunately we are outliers/ minority.
For the majority, life is worth living regardless of the suferring.

 

[DavidInternet]

I find it so horrific and disturbing how humans actually choose to procreate even despite the fact that nobody can suffer from never existing at all. It's criminal to me deciding to impose decades of meaningless suffering onto someone else in an existence that can potentially get so torturous way beyond how anyone could imagine it to.

It just disgusts me how pronatalists create so much harm all for selfish reasons, this human species truly is an abomination, it's such a terrible tragedy to me how this species hasn't gone voluntarily extinct yet. And what makes it even more hellish is how suicide isn't accepted as a valid option even despite the fact we were so unfairly forced into this cruel and pointless existence, it's evil how humans do all they can to ensure that others continue suffering no matter what.

We truly are being punished all because others were selfish enough to so harmfully force life here, I really wish I had access to an instant suicide pill or guaranteed peaceful poison but ideally I wish I could just erase my existence so it's like I never existed at all, it'd be better if existence is erased and forgotten about. It's devastating how they procreate even know human existence is the most undesirable burden with unlimited potential for agony and torment, there's no compassion in deciding to procreate. It absolutely repulses me when people act like causing others to suffer by forcing them into existence even know there is no need to do so is something acceptable when it could never be.

U know bruv, I love u, but fucking really sis????

 

[final_countdown12]

U know bruv, I love u, but fucking really sis????

Probably this guy is trolling us

 

[SnackNinja]

Someone procreating is doing it for their own happiness. That's it when I hear parents r actions to their kids suicide they say " he was my happiness" it's pure greed and self gain and it's immoral
Someone procreating is doing it for their own happiness. That's it when I hear parents r actions to their kids suicide they say " he was my happiness" it's pure greed and self gain and it's immoral

 

[DavidInternet]

Someone reported me for saying she's milking it. You fucking snowflakes. Fucking report this too u cunts.

 

[final_countdown12]

Someone reported me for saying she's milking it. You fucking snowflakes. Fucking report this too u cunts.

Dont worry, she's the most protected user in this comunity. Its normal that this happen to you.
She has privilege here so she can freely atack and insult the comunity or specific groups (e.g. : people with SH issues) and nobody can do anything to her.

 

[Ash’Girl]

Yanno… I always thought of pro-natalism being an aggressive push towards "women must have babies".
Restricting birth control, no access to abortions, insisting those who are fertile must choose motherhood over career. Extreme cases like the red capes in the Handsmaids Tale.

Here it seems to be blanket applied to anyone who ever dares have a baby.

If you look at it from the other side of the extreme, it's suggestive that all humans be forced to be sterilised so no more babies can ever be conceived.

Forcing someone to have an abortion is just as disgusting as not allowing them to have an abortion if they want one.

So: without me googling for five hours, how is everyone defining pro/antinalist? Maybe I should start a poll.

I had a point somewhere in there but eh, I should know better.

 

[DavidInternet]

Dont worry, she's the most protected user in this comunity. Its normal that this happen to you.
She has privilege here so she can freely atack and insult the comunity and nobody can do anything to her.

Got nothing against this bird, tbh. Dont agree with most of what she says; but I think we should all be able to discuss why we are suicidal. And for me, at the present moment, it's because of White Genocide.

 

[Artemisia]

I guess some people are content enough with their lives, so they see bringing children to this world as a good thing. Most however come to this world as either a Ooops moment (unplanned pregnancies) or through parents who don't know any better and are still stuck in a "as many children as possible" (to fuel religion or war, usually religious war) kind of mentality.

I never had children and it's sadly the thing I most proud of in my life, despite all the attempted blackmail I was subjected to.

 

[FadingDawn]

Breeders are horrific and disgusting; fully agree, down to a T.