Method Potassium chloride powder?

[Xtinabgt]

Hi all,

I've seen potassium chloride powder on the famous auction website.
Is orally taken potassium chloride a reliable way to ctb? I've read it causes cardiac arrest, is it painless?

Thanks

 

[Deleted member 14386]

The typical amounts of potassium chloride found in the diet appear to be generally safe.[13] In larger quantities, however, potassium chloride is toxic. The LD50 of orally ingested potassium chloride is approximately 2.5 g/kg, or 190 grams (6.7 oz) for a body mass of 75 kilograms (165 lb). In comparison, the LD50 of sodium chloride (table salt) is 3.75 g/kg.

Possible I guess but that'd be a hell of a thing to drink and keep down

 

[Xtinabgt]

Sounds like a lot of powder to ingest...

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Sounds like a lot of powder to ingest...

Sorry my sarcasm over the internet is bad. It would be more effective to use table salt! Defo don't do it lol

 

[Xtinabgt]

Ok too bad, I thought it could be a reliable way to stop your heart quickly... I hope I can purchase SN soon, I'm so desperate right now and even if I haven't chosen a precise date yet I kinda need that comfort getting SN will procure.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I feel you, just having a backup plan calms me down a lot. Keep trying auction sites etc, sending good vibes

 

[Xtinabgt]

I feel you, just having a backup plan calms me down a lot. Keep trying auction sites etc, sending good vibes

Thank you, really need them :/

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I wish I could send some people SN but sadly this is impossible.

 

[Xtinabgt]

I wish I could send some people SN but sadly this is impossible.

I still don't know how I will be able to get SN, I came back from abroad not long ago in a messy situation... I don't have a bank account or money actually and I'm just scared SN will be discontinued everywhere :/

 

[TVtrays]

I still don't know how I will be able to get SN, I came back from abroad not long ago in a messy situation... I don't have a bank account or money actually and I'm just scared SN will be discontinued everywhere :/

I was able to get SN fairly easily.
As for Potassium Chloride, it would be quite ineffective. I'm a trans woman on spironolactone, which is a potassium sparing diuretic. I have to watch my potassium levels closely because I'm much more prone to hyperkalemia than most. Even then, the consumption of potassium chloride would be quite ineffective.

 

[faust]

Hello, potassium chloride is used in 3 drug protocol as far as I know.
Now read this and forget about your method:
"Potassium chloride is the drug that causes death in an execution under current lethal injection protocols. Although the other two drugs are administered in lethal dosages and would, in time, produce the prisoner's death, potassium chloride should cause cardiac arrest and death within a minute of injection. While potassium chloride acts quickly, it is excruciatingly painful if administered without proper anesthesia. When injected into a vein, it inflames the potassium ions in the sensory nerve fibers, literally burning up the veins as it travels to the heart. "
Source: https://www.hrw.org/reports/2006/us0406/4.htm

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Hello, potassium chloride is used in 3 drug protocol as far as I know.
Now read this and forget about your method:
"Potassium chloride is the drug that causes death in an execution under current lethal injection protocols. Although the other two drugs are administered in lethal dosages and would, in time, produce the prisoner's death, potassium chloride should cause cardiac arrest and death within a minute of injection. While potassium chloride acts quickly, it is excruciatingly painful if administered without proper anesthesia. When injected into a vein, it inflames the potassium ions in the sensory nerve fibers, literally burning up the veins as it travels to the heart. "
Source: https://www.hrw.org/reports/2006/us0406/4.htm

Is it?! I posted about that earlier but it did not include potassium chloride. Could it be Chloral Hydrate that you're thinking of? If so I may have to revise my plans lol

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-3-4-drug-protocol-ppeh-method.34621/

edit: or are there different 3 drug protocols?... this is confusing

 

[faust]

Is it?! I posted about that earlier but it did not include potassium chloride. Could it be Chloral Hydrate that you're thinking of? If so I may have to revise my plans lol

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-3-4-drug-protocol-ppeh-method.34621/

edit: or are there different 3 drug protocols?... this is confusing

3-drug protocol used in lethal injection in prisons, not the one recommended by PePH.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Ah good, thank you, I missed the IV part and panicked lol

 

[faust]

Ah good, thank you, I missed the IV part and panicked lol

Yes, and I like this table
Table 1.
Lethal medications used in PAS and executions.

Drug name (trade name)	Therapeutic class	Medical uses	Lethal protocols	Unique pharmacological characteristics
Sodium thiopental (Pentothal)6	Barbiturate	Anesthetic; used in surgery in poorer countries; primary execution drug till 2010	PAS drug in Europe; used in three-drug and one-drug executions (first drug)	Ultra-rapid onset; short lasting
Pentobarbital (Nembutal)7	Barbiturate	Sedative; pre-anesthetic; treats insomnia	PAS drug; used in one-drug, two-drug, and three-drug executions (first drug)	Slow onset; long lasting
Secobarbital (Seconal)8	Barbiturate	Sedative; treats insomnia	PAS drug; proposed for executions, but never used	Rapid onset; short lasting
Phenobarbital (Luminal)	Barbiturate	Sedative; treats seizures	PAS drug; proposed for executions, but never used	Ultra-slow onset; long lasting
Midazolam (Versed)9	Benzodiazepine	Sedative; treats anxiety and amnesia	Used in one-drug, two-drug, and three-drug protocols (first drug)	Rapid onset; intermediate-lasting; effects capped at 'lower level of sedation'
Etomidate10	General anesthetic	Anesthetic; used for quick procedures, like intubation	Used in 3-drug protocol (first drug)	Rapid onset; ultra-short-lasting
Pancuronium bromide11	Neuromuscular relaxant	Paralytic agent	Used in three-drug protocol (second drug)	Paralyses patient's lungs; no effect on consciousness
Potassium chloride12	Potassium supplement	Treats potassium deficiency	Used in three-drug protocol (third drug)	Common drug; induces cardiac arrest in high dose

 

[Deleted member 14386]

That's very handy actually I think I'll save that in my encrypted ctb stuff! thanks

 

[faust]

That's very handy actually I think I'll save that in my encrypted ctb stuff! thanks

Though it has nothing common with CTB. We cannot use 3-drug protocol, we can only use N. But not iv. So that is just to broaden our mind.

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

I can attest to the painfulness of potassium chloride.

I tend to run low on potassium and wound up in the hospital after a bout of dehydration. One night, about 2 am of course, the nurse hung a new IV bag for me and woke me out of a sound sleep. I've never felt anything like it. I could feel the burn start at my hand and climb right up my arm. I buzzed and buzzed until I lost my cool and started yelling.

When I told the nurse what was going on, she replied, "That's the potassium. It burns like fire going in."

Turns out they had forgotten to add the lidocaine (numbing agent.)

Don't let the stuff anywhere near you without being good and comatose first.

 

[faust]

I can attest to the painfulness of potassium chloride.

I tend to run low on potassium and wound up in the hospital after a bout of dehydration. One night, about 2 am of course, the nurse hung a new IV bag for me and woke me out of a sound sleep. I've never felt anything like it. I could feel the burn start at my hand and climb right up my arm. I buzzed and buzzed until I lost my cool and started yelling.

When I told the nurse what was going on, she replied, "That's the potassium. It burns like fire going in."

Turns out they had forgotten to add the lidocaine (numbing agent.)

Don't let the stuff anywhere near you without being good and comatose first.

Ye, that proves the article above as well. The pain is excruciating.

 

[autumnal]

A potassium chloride method (using an IV) is detailed in the Geo Stone book, page 253 onwards.

I have no knowledge or experience with it personally.

 

[Xtinabgt]

Thanks everybody for the inputs.