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Sleepdrifter

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I am approaching 500 applications and nearly 6 months without work. In the next few days I have 2 interviews..i need divine intervention. Please SS community, send prayers for the deity responsible for giving work, as I really need it.. God bless.. Inshallah.. Hail Satan (whichever applies)
 
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Bless!
 
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I am wishing you luck.
 
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Wish you the best of luck, I'm in a similar position. It sucks.
 
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My prayers don't work but I'll send some extra good vibes your way.
 
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I wish you and @thebusislatetonight the best and hope the universe works in both your favors 🙏❤️
 
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Break a leg! Like, in the theater way not the- You get it!
 
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Good luck :) I hope you get one of them
 
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I was in a similar position for ages so I wish you well with finding work. I've heard mixed things about job agencies but I'd be willing to bet you'd have an easier time doing that or even handing out resumes but I have terrible social anxiety so online was my main method. I got nothing over about a year of on-and-off trying so I can definitely say online application sites are awful. Good luck with your interviews.
 
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How old are you and what kind of education do you have?

There are some serious jobs for people in the IT, you could make a boot camp 6 months and start as a programmer, even with low experience they get a good salary, there are low tier programmers without higher education that make easily up to 50-60k a year, with computer science degree up to 200k in AI or machine learning, depends which way you wanna go.


If you need any information let me/us know
 
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Sending Beautiful Blessings your way @Sleepdrifter that you get a great job :heart:
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I hope that things go well for you. Best of luck.
 
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Sleepdrifter

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I was in a similar position for ages so I wish you well with finding work. I've heard mixed things about job agencies but I'd be willing to bet you'd have an easier time doing that or even handing out resumes but I have terrible social anxiety so online was my main method. I got nothing over about a year of on-and-off trying so I can definitely say online application sites are awful. Good luck with your interviews.
Many if not most of my applications are through agencies. They're very hit and miss; if they see your CV online and contact you out of the blue however you have a really good chance


How old are you and what kind of education do you have?

There are some serious jobs for people in the IT, you could make a boot camp 6 months and start as a programmer, even with low experience they get a good salary, there are low tier programmers without higher education that make easily up to 50-60k a year, with computer science degree up to 200k in AI or machine learning, depends which way you wanna go.
Got a few IT certs but have tried to get into IT for years without success. It's not the USA where you can walk into jobs, you 100% need connections here to get into a profession otherwise you WILL get stuck in a call centre. I am VERY old now..
 
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I am approaching 500 applications and nearly 6 months without work. In the next few days I have 2 interviews..i need divine intervention. Please SS community, send prayers for the deity responsible for giving work, as I really need it.. God bless.. Inshallah.. Hail Satan (whichever applies)
Prayers sent. God bless
 
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Many if not most of my applications are through agencies. They're very hit and miss; if they see your CV online and contact you out of the blue however you have a really good chance



Got a few IT certs but have tried to get into IT for years without success. It's not the USA where you can walk into jobs, you 100% need connections here to get into a profession otherwise you WILL get stuck in a call centre. I am VERY old now..

The best part of being in IT is you can work remote (mostly), thats why a lot of devs or consultants are working in asia or somewhere with low taxes, you could get european or US grade salary while living abroad. Even with "okay" skills for example in python, with a 50 Dollar udemy course, a few months training ethical hacker/penetration tester is a safe job, next to machine learning, IT Security is growing.

Even if you're old, few certs are a still fine, because you already know the "higher" basics to build from there.
 
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Sleepdrifter

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The best part of being in IT is you can work remote (mostly), thats why a lot of devs or consultants are working in asia or somewhere with low taxes, you could get european or US grade salary while living abroad. Even with "okay" skills for example in python, with a 50 Dollar udemy course, a few months training ethical hacker/penetration tester is a safe job, next to machine learning, IT Security is growing.

Even if you're old, few certs are a still fine, because you already know the "higher" basics to build from there.
Joking about being old. But I have heard this many, many times: that you can study online courses, gain certs, and break into IT as an engineer, developer, or security professional. I later learned this to be a complete myth. There's only two ways into the industry, connections or previous experience. The certificates aren't for people trying to gain an entry level job, they are designed for people already working in the industry and require accreditation for corporate auditing or similar purposes. The idea is pushed in order to sell expensive bootcamps or inferior courses, and people tell each other as if it's somehow a secret when you have them constantly advertising themselves online on every major platform.

It's such a comfortable myth to believe in though. It kept me sane for years to think I could one day become a self-made IT professional, earning lucrative sums of money with indispensable skills after teaching myself online. In the end I found out it was just a response to my own desperation. You only "get into IT" through connections or having previous paid (not voluntary) workplace experience. There are many people who fall for the sales talk and the individualism of it all, making your own way with online learning. Then you get to the job boards - and every position requires previous experience.
 
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zephenix

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Hoping for the best! I hate that everything banks on luck and networking.
 
stoopid

stoopid

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Feb 27, 2023
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Joking about being old. But I have heard this many, many times: that you can study online courses, gain certs, and break into IT as an engineer, developer, or security professional. I later learned this to be a complete myth. There's only two ways into the industry, connections or previous experience. The certificates aren't for people trying to gain an entry level job, they are designed for people already working in the industry and require accreditation for corporate auditing or similar purposes. The idea is pushed in order to sell expensive bootcamps or inferior courses, and people tell each other as if it's somehow a secret when you have them constantly advertising themselves online on every major platform.

It's such a comfortable myth to believe in though. It kept me sane for years to think I could one day become a self-made IT professional, earning lucrative sums of money with indispensable skills after teaching myself online. In the end I found out it was just a response to my own desperation. You only "get into IT" through connections or having previous paid (not voluntary) workplace experience. There are many people who fall for the sales talk and the individualism of it all, making your own way with online learning. Then you get to the job boards - and every position requires previous experience.

Im sorry that you made that experience, my intent was just to help. I mentioned it because I know that from people I personally know that it's a way to start a career, and was my own preferred Job in that sector. I don't know 1 single person who couldn't land a job in that field who seriously tried it and build a portfolio on skills, I was offered around 1400 (taxes excluded) for part time (15 hours a week) during computer science degree and after that a 100% job guarantee. It's just facts everyone can look up to it's the fastest growing sector in the world. But it depends on the person and how good the portfolio is build. I can imagine that the US market has more frauds and fake bootcamps, for example I learned the most about C++ and commercialized hacking (penetration testing) without any paid course and I could already live by that alone from freelancing jobs on fiverr. That's why I tell that people I don't paid by company's, I just know how many specialized workers are missing, in germany they pay a shit load of money if you can build yourself up to a valueable worker, when someone said "that's not true", bro I made when corona started 3k a month on fiverr, without any degree just sitting few hours on my laptop smoking weed and watched anime while the scanners or something works in the background. Since I'm unemployed because im back 2 study full time, I've tried my best to help peoples and I'm shocked that it's that hard for some, I literally learned everything from Youtube
 
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hamvil

Wizard
Aug 29, 2022
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I am approaching 500 applications and nearly 6 months without work. In the next few days I have 2 interviews..i need divine intervention. Please SS community, send prayers for the deity responsible for giving work, as I really need it.. God bless.. Inshallah.. Hail Satan (whichever applies)
I am sorry to hear that you have been experiencing such a challenging time. It is understandable to feel overwhelmed and in need of divine intervention during times like these. Please know that the SS community is here to support you and sending positive thoughts your way.

I am glad to hear that you have two interviews coming up, which is a great accomplishment in itself. Keep your head up and stay positive, as your perseverance will pay off. Remember to believe in yourself and your abilities, and have faith that things will work out in the end.

I am sending my best wishes and hope that you will soon find the work that you need. Stay strong and stay positive, and know that the SS community is rooting for you.
 
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Sleepdrifter

Student
Jun 22, 2020
151
I am sorry to hear that you have been experiencing such a challenging time. It is understandable to feel overwhelmed and in need of divine intervention during times like these. Please know that the SS community is here to support you and sending positive thoughts your way.

I am glad to hear that you have two interviews coming up, which is a great accomplishment in itself. Keep your head up and stay positive, as your perseverance will pay off. Remember to believe in yourself and your abilities, and have faith that things will work out in the end.

I am sending my best wishes and hope that you will soon find the work that you need. Stay strong and stay positive, and know that the SS community is rooting for you.
Thanks very much. I think someone may offer me a job today, the prayers have somehow worked! Now time to become religious I guess.

Im sorry that you made that experience, my intent was just to help. I mentioned it because I know that from people I personally know that it's a way to start a career, and was my own preferred Job in that sector. I don't know 1 single person who couldn't land a job in that field who seriously tried it and build a portfolio on skills, I was offered around 1400 (taxes excluded) for part time (15 hours a week) during computer science degree and after that a 100% job guarantee. It's just facts everyone can look up to it's the fastest growing sector in the world. But it depends on the person and how good the portfolio is build. I can imagine that the US market has more frauds and fake bootcamps, for example I learned the most about C++ and commercialized hacking (penetration testing) without any paid course and I could already live by that alone from freelancing jobs on fiverr. That's why I tell that people I don't paid by company's, I just know how many specialized workers are missing, in germany they pay a shit load of money if you can build yourself up to a valueable worker, when someone said "that's not true", bro I made when corona started 3k a month on fiverr, without any degree just sitting few hours on my laptop smoking weed and watched anime while the scanners or something works in the background. Since I'm unemployed because im back 2 study full time, I've tried my best to help peoples and I'm shocked that it's that hard for some, I literally learned everything from Youtube
Not trying to be offensive, but I have heard this so many times, someone teaching themselves to code on youtube, freelancing and breaking into huge paying work and so on. It is a wonderful sounding dream. Then you get out there and you have literally no chance of employment. And you have to deal with the feelings of being exploited by the people who sold you the course or the cert. Even "free" materials online generate revenue by advertising.

I can already code python and ecmascript to an amateur level. It was something I did out of interest along with sql, php and learning about powerBI. I have done so much online learning - project management, excel, computer maintenance, data analysis. There is no way I'll ever work in these fields, not even for free. Because you need the following:

- Connections - someone to hand you the job. No interview, no process, just give you the job.
- Years of paid experience. No certs, no degree - a resume with paid experience.

I have come across so many people across the world who have sunk thousands of dollars and hours in their projects thinking they can become high earners or even to earn enough to survive. Some put every last piece of hope in thinking they can start their own business or work as a developer. Then they get out there without connections and experience, and *always* come back empty-handed. The people that told them they could make it may have been insidious or well meaning, but they had friends who gave them work. Sure, you can say you learned to code on youtube and worked on fiverr, if you feel like saying it, I think people do to prove their worth. But without friends you won't get a gig let alone a job. You don't have a single chance.
 

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