sadclown666

sadclown666

suicidal emo girl
Apr 23, 2023
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INFO ABOUT ME:

i recently turned 18

when i was 17, i got into legal trouble with drugs at school(long story). and in less then a month, ill be off probation. and my record will be clear UNLESS i commit another crime. then it will be displayed on my record what already happened.

anyway, i need advice

ive been to the local psych ward, and been to mental hospitals before as a child

im not in a redneck gun loving state, and im just an emo 18 year old girl

im scared if i attempt to get a license for a gun (i want a shotgun to CTB with) some circumstances might get in the way.

does anyone have any knowledge? i dont know how to safely illegally buy a shotgun without getting in trouble.

if anyone has more questions pls dm me and ill answer.

i decided hanging myself is too scary and this is the only way. ive dreamed of shooting myself, but no gun. ive made nooses but never had it in me to go through. fear and anxiety tell me terrible things will happen and i will survive
 
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Mar 25, 2023
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Hi, I'm a male who recently turned 18, not really looking to CTB but to answer your question you'd have to take some gambles on the dark web? Maybe try finding some vendors somewhere online? I put question marks because all firearm vendors I've seen online are scammers, they either sell you 3D printed replicas or just run off with the money. I might be wrong though, I wish I could help but I've never really looked for any. The only thing I know vendors for is drugs/compounds
 
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zel

Curiosity killed the cat, eh?
Oct 17, 2023
92
INFO ABOUT ME:

i recently turned 18

when i was 17, i got into legal trouble with drugs at school(long story). and in less then a month, ill be off probation. and my record will be clear UNLESS i commit another crime. then it will be displayed on my record what already happened.

anyway, i need advice

ive been to the local psych ward, and been to mental hospitals before as a child

im not in a redneck gun loving state, and im just an emo 18 year old girl

im scared if i attempt to get a license for a gun (i want a shotgun to CTB with) some circumstances might get in the way.

does anyone have any knowledge? i dont know how to safely illegally buy a shotgun without getting in trouble.

if anyone has more questions pls dm me and ill answer.

i decided hanging myself is too scary and this is the only way. ive dreamed of shooting myself, but no gun. ive made nooses but never had it in me to go through. fear and anxiety tell me terrible things will happen and i will survive
It may very on your state, but I'm reasonably confident that you will be unable to purchase a gun as you have been institutionalized in a psych ward and presumably put on something like a 5150 hold. Honestly, if you don't care about potentially inflicting crippling and lifelong guilt on a friend, you can ask to borrow a shotgun from a confidant under the auspices of going hunting. This seems to be your only reasonable recourse for this method, as illegal means are inherently very risky.
 
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Hi, I'm a male who recently turned 18, not really looking to CTB but to answer your question you'd have to take some gambles on the dark web? Maybe try finding some vendors somewhere online? I put question marks because all firearm vendors I've seen online are scammers, they either sell you 3D printed replicas or just run off with the money. I might be wrong though, I wish I could help but I've never really looked for any. The only thing I know vendors for is drugs/compounds
Getting guns on dw is very very risky
 
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Few people realize the implications of being documented as a mentally unstable individual until it's too late.
That blemish will be on your record until the day that you die and even after that.
You will not be approved for a fire arms permit in any state in the US. PERIOD.
So do not waste your time or money. (It's not cheap and under the right circumstances it takes 1 year+)

Your best course of action is to steal one. You can't trust the black market. Street buys are too risky.
Dark web purchases are 100% scams because you can not ship guns without being instantly flagged.
They have x-ray machines that will not allow any such weapons to be shipped. Period.

Shotguns don't require permits in some states but they do run background checks so you will still be flagged.
 
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piryohae3

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Jan 2, 2024
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Here's the background check form (ATF Form 4473) you need to fill out when buying a gun.

ive been to the local psych ward, and been to mental hospitals before as a child
Were you sent there against your will or ordered by court to go? If you went voluntarily then it doesn't count against you.

when i was 17, i got into legal trouble with drugs at school(long story). and in less then a month, ill be off probation. and my record will be clear UNLESS i commit another crime. then it will be displayed on my record what already happened.
Were you convicted of a felony?
 
walkingdead2023

walkingdead2023

Specialist
Jan 2, 2024
377
INFO ABOUT ME:

i recently turned 18

when i was 17, i got into legal trouble with drugs at school(long story). and in less then a month, ill be off probation. and my record will be clear UNLESS i commit another crime. then it will be displayed on my record what already happened.

anyway, i need advice

ive been to the local psych ward, and been to mental hospitals before as a child

im not in a redneck gun loving state, and im just an emo 18 year old girl

im scared if i attempt to get a license for a gun (i want a shotgun to CTB with) some circumstances might get in the way.

does anyone have any knowledge? i dont know how to safely illegally buy a shotgun without getting in trouble.

if anyone has more questions pls dm me and ill answer.

i decided hanging myself is too scary and this is the only way. ive dreamed of shooting myself, but no gun. ive made nooses but never had it in me to go through. fear and anxiety tell me terrible things will happen and i will survive
We are not here to encourage illegal activities! If you can't get one legally or simply buying one from the street, please do not steal one. To be wanted to die because your suffering doesn't mean we support illegal activities, if you get caught you are done they will treat you as an adult so think wisely before you act.
 
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Anonperson1

Member
Sep 8, 2022
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INFO ABOUT ME:

i recently turned 18

when i was 17, i got into legal trouble with drugs at school(long story). and in less then a month, ill be off probation. and my record will be clear UNLESS i commit another crime. then it will be displayed on my record what already happened.

anyway, i need advice

ive been to the local psych ward, and been to mental hospitals before as a child

im not in a redneck gun loving state, and im just an emo 18 year old girl

im scared if i attempt to get a license for a gun (i want a shotgun to CTB with) some circumstances might get in the way.

does anyone have any knowledge? i dont know how to safely illegally buy a shotgun without getting in trouble.

if anyone has more questions pls dm me and ill answer.

i decided hanging myself is too scary and this is the only way. ive dreamed of shooting myself, but no gun. ive made nooses but never had it in me to go through. fear and anxiety tell me terrible things will happen and i will survive
You're 18...and if you keep your nose clean you have a clean record and can start your life again. If you've been in a psych ward you're not getting a gun, if you're caught buying one illegally, then you're going to have further legal issues. You have the chance for a clean slate...take it. If things don't work out then you always have the CTB option later, but this seems like you're playing with fire and the concequences of failure are going to cause you bigger issues
 
SexyIncél

SexyIncél

🍭my lollipop brings the feminists to my candyshop
Aug 16, 2022
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What's the negative outcome, if you fail a licensed dealer's background check? I see some US states go a little goofy here

Anyway, there's alternatives
 
LigottiSchopenhauer

LigottiSchopenhauer

Student
Jan 7, 2023
108
As long as you haven't been involuntarily detained for "mental health treatment", you should be able to purchase a gun if you live in the U.S. I myself am a gun owner who was in a mental hospital previously, but it was technically voluntary. Buying a gun can be an intimidating process, but from what you've posted here, it seems like you'll probably be able to buy a shotgun legally.
 
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brokenpromise

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Jan 3, 2024
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A lot of local gun shows with private sellers don't require any background checks this is honestly where I'd go tbh.
 
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sadclown666

sadclown666

suicidal emo girl
Apr 23, 2023
31
ted to die because your suffering doesn't mean we support illegal activities, if you get caught you are done they will treat you as an adult so think wisely before you act.
We are not here to encourage illegal activities! If you can't get one legally or simply buying one from the street, please do not steal one. To be wanted to die because your suffering doesn't mean we support illegal activities, if you get caught you are done they will treat you as an adult so think wisely before you act.
nooo im not saying i wanna steal a gun:(

my point was like
unless i do something stupid to get another legal charge on my record now as an adult, i should be fine. and i will be fine because i cant imagine myself just letting that happen
A lot of local gun shows with private sellers don't require any background checks this is honestly where I'd go tbh.
can u dm me or reply here with some more info? im a complete noob at guns in general (yes i plan on educating myself beforehand) maybe can you give me info on maybe like what those look like, what those are, how to find them, sources maybe, examples? thanks friend:)
As long as you haven't been involuntarily detained for "mental health treatment", you should be able to purchase a gun if you live in the U.S. I myself am a gun owner who was in a mental hospital previously, but it was technically voluntary. Buying a gun can be an intimidating process, but from what you've posted here, it seems like you'll probably be able to buy a shotgun legally.
okay so TECHNICALLY when i was 15 i was involuntarily taken to some mental facilities (to be more specific a wilderness program and after that i was brought to the local psych ward, then a longer term mental hospital, then a residential. this was all over the time of 8 months. HOW EVER my mom ended up telling me that ON PAPER it isnt written as involuntary hospitalization because before she had me taken, she had to fill out forms and chose to not have that put down.

but yeah ugh it still worries me;(
What's the negative outcome, if you fail a licensed dealer's background check? I see some US states go a little goofy here

Anyway, there's alternatives
aghhhh my states was one of the ones in blue:/

since you said alternatives i just wanna say i honestly dont really agree bc a shot to the head with a shotgun is instant. there really isnt anything that simple and painless:( but can u give me some alternatives u see worth looking into? idk if that sounds like im being a smart ass sorry if it does i didnt know how else to word what i was saying
You're 18...and if you keep your nose clean you have a clean record and can start your life again. If you've been in a psych ward you're not getting a gun, if you're caught buying one illegally, then you're going to have further legal issues. You have the chance for a clean slate...take it. If things don't work out then you always have the CTB option later, but this seems like you're playing with fire and the concequences of failure are going to cause you bigger issues
ughhh vie bene to the psych ward before:(
It may very on your state, but I'm reasonably confident that you will be unable to purchase a gun as you have been institutionalized in a psych ward and presumably put on something like a 5150 hold. Honestly, if you don't care about potentially inflicting crippling and lifelong guilt on a friend, you can ask to borrow a shotgun from a confidant under the auspices of going hunting. This seems to be your only reasonable recourse for this method, as illegal means are inherently very risky.
ive thought about that before alot but i dont wanna ask my gun owning friends since they 1.) know that im depressed and 2.) might say no and i have a fear of that type of situation it would be so embarrassing arghhh
It may very on your state, but I'm reasonably confident that you will be unable to purchase a gun as you have been institutionalized in a psych ward and presumably put on something like a 5150 hold. Honestly, if you don't care about potentially inflicting crippling and lifelong guilt on a friend, you can ask to borrow a shotgun from a confidant under the auspices of going hunting. This seems to be your only reasonable recourse for this method, as illegal means are inherently very risky.
ive thought about that before alot but i dont wanna ask my gun owning friends since they 1.) know that im depressed and 2.) might say no and i have a fear of that type of situation it would be so embarrassing arghhh i
Hi, I'm a male who recently turned 18, not really looking to CTB but to answer your question you'd have to take some gambles on the dark web? Maybe try finding some vendors somewhere online? I put question marks because all firearm vendors I've seen online are scammers, they either sell you 3D printed replicas or just run off with the money. I might be wrong though, I wish I could help but I've never really looked for any. The only thing I know vendors for is drugs/compounds
ive been on the dark web and seen gun vendors and i actually have a telegram drug dealer that sells drugs guns and clone cards, its where you pay first then ithey supposedly ship your order through mail. i wish i could somehow know what legit and whats not :[
Here's the background check form (ATF Form 4473) you need to fill out when buying a gun.


Were you sent there against your will or ordered by court to go? If you went voluntarily then it doesn't count against you.


Were you convicted of a felony?
i was charged, im actually not sure cuz i forget if fenlony means something specific. but i was charged and they decided that after probation it will be expunged from my record with no traces (again unless i get arrested again then they will be able to see)
 
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aghhhh my states was one of the ones in blue:/

since you said alternatives i just wanna say i honestly dont really agree bc a shot to the head with a shotgun is instant. there really isnt anything that simple and painless:( but can u give me some alternatives u see worth looking into? idk if that sounds like im being a smart ass sorry if it does i didnt know how else to word what i was saying
Ah yes no worries! I didn't mean it that way. To avoid boring people, I'll clarify in pm
 
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lopsidedcrawdad1

Experienced
Jun 22, 2023
284
nooo im not saying i wanna steal a gun:(

my point was like
unless i do something stupid to get another legal charge on my record now as an adult, i should be fine. and i will be fine because i cant imagine myself just letting that happen

can u dm me or reply here with some more info? im a complete noob at guns in general (yes i plan on educating myself beforehand) maybe can you give me info on maybe like what those look like, what those are, how to find them, sources maybe, examples? thanks friend:)

okay so TECHNICALLY when i was 15 i was involuntarily taken to some mental facilities (to be more specific a wilderness program and after that i was brought to the local psych ward, then a longer term mental hospital, then a residential. this was all over the time of 8 months. HOW EVER my mom ended up telling me that ON PAPER it isnt written as involuntary hospitalization because before she had me taken, she had to fill out forms and chose to not have that put down.

but yeah ugh it still worries me;(

aghhhh my states was one of the ones in blue:/

since you said alternatives i just wanna say i honestly dont really agree bc a shot to the head with a shotgun is instant. there really isnt anything that simple and painless:( but can u give me some alternatives u see worth looking into? idk if that sounds like im being a smart ass sorry if it does i didnt know how else to word what i was saying

ughhh vie bene to the psych ward before:(

ive thought about that before alot but i dont wanna ask my gun owning friends since they 1.) know that im depressed and 2.) might say no and i have a fear of that type of situation it would be so embarrassing arghhh

ive thought about that before alot but i dont wanna ask my gun owning friends since they 1.) know that im depressed and 2.) might say no and i have a fear of that type of situation it would be so embarrassing arghhh i

ive been on the dark web and seen gun vendors and i actually have a telegram drug dealer that sells drugs guns and clone cards, its where you pay first then ithey supposedly ship your order through mail. i wish i could somehow know what legit and whats not :[

i was charged, im actually not sure cuz i forget if fenlony means something specific. but i was charged and they decided that after probation it will be expunged from my record with no traces (again unless i get arrested again then they will be able to see)
If you were ever involuntarily held, youre not getting a gun. If you have a felony, youre not getting a gun. Also you said youre an "emo looking" 18 year old girl. That is going to be a red flag alone. Youre also most likely going to be giving off even more red flags if youre anxious or shaky. I bought one a while ago that I dont plan on using anymore and even though I look like someone that would own a gun, I was nervous as hell and a bit shaky. The people saying you can buy one on the dark web dont know what theyre talking about. You absolutely cannot do that lol. I hope things get better for you. It doesnt seem like a gun is much of an option for you.
 
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sadclown666

sadclown666

suicidal emo girl
Apr 23, 2023
31
If you were ever involuntarily held, youre not getting a gun. If you have a felony, youre not getting a gun. Also you said youre an "emo looking" 18 year old girl. That is going to be a red flag alone. Youre also most likely going to be giving off even more red flags if youre anxious or shaky. I bought one a while ago that I dont plan on using anymore and even though I look like someone that would own a gun, I was nervous as hell and a bit shaky. The people saying you can buy one on the dark web dont know what theyre talking about. You absolutely cannot do that lol. I hope things get better for you. It doesnt seem like a gun is much of an option for you.
okay actually i just talked to my mom and she told me that all my medical history with like facilities and psych wards etc is all privileged information and she never signed off on me being 303 or 302d ever when she had me go to those places which is good


i rlly hope i can get a license but if i do i will put it as self defense for moving out since ill be on my own then living on my own and everything



honestly maybe i can look into getting it ordered online or a pickup from the sports store?

u prolly know more then me tho do u have any feedback from everything i just said
 
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lopsidedcrawdad1

Experienced
Jun 22, 2023
284
okay actually i just talked to my mom and she told me that all my medical history with like facilities and psych wards etc is all privileged information and she never signed off on me being 303 or 302d ever when she had me go to those places which is good


i rlly hope i can get a license but if i do i will put it as self defense for moving out since ill be on my own then living on my own and everything



honestly maybe i can look into getting it ordered online or a pickup from the sports store?

u prolly know more then me tho do u have any feedback from everything i just said
You dont need a license. You can just buy one. You can have one ordered online to the store, but you still have to go in person, fill out all of the paperwork, and then since youre under 21, wait up to I think 10 days for your background check to be approved. I dont think its a good idea for you to do this though.
 
sadclown666

sadclown666

suicidal emo girl
Apr 23, 2023
31
You dont need a license. You can just buy one. You can have one ordered online to the store, but you still have to go in person, fill out all of the paperwork, and then since youre under 21, wait up to I think 10 days for your background check to be approved. I dont think its a good idea for you to do this though.
do what? get a gun in general or not get a license sorry im a lil slow
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You dont need a license. You can just buy one. You can have one ordered online to the store, but you still have to go in person, fill out all of the paperwork, and then since youre under 21, wait up to I think 10 days for your background check to be approved. I dont think its a good idea for you to do this though.
wouldn't getting a license mean i dont have to do the paper work in person? i mean im sure there's gonna be paper work no matter what but ykwim
 
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lopsidedcrawdad1

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Jun 22, 2023
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do what? get a gun in general or not get a license sorry im a lil slow
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wouldn't getting a license mean i dont have to do the paper work in person? i mean im sure there's gonna be paper work no matter what but ykwim
Theres no such thing as a gun license needed for possessing long guns (rifles and shotguns.) You can just go buy one. You will have to do the paperwork in person no matter what.
do what? get a gun in general or not get a license sorry im a lil slow
w

wouldn't getting a license mean i dont have to do the paper work in person? i mean im sure there's gonna be paper work no matter what but ykwim
You dont need to fill out a background check at a gun show but I really doubt anyone is going to sell a gun to an anxious, "emo", young girl. Its possible but unlikely.
 
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sadclown666

suicidal emo girl
Apr 23, 2023
31
Theres no suc
Theres no such thing as a gun license needed for possessing long guns (rifles and shotguns.) You can just go buy one. You will have to do the paperwork in person no matter what.

You dont need to fill out a background check at a gun show but I really doubt anyone is going to sell a gun to an anxious, "emo", young girl. Its possible but unlikely.

h thing as a gun license needed for possessing long guns (rifles and shotguns.) You can just go buy one. You will have to do the paperwork in person no matter what.

You dont need to fill out a background check at a gun show but I really doubt anyone is going to sell a gun to an anxious, "emo", young girl. Its possible but unlikely.
oh damn ty for telling me this, i didnt know that ty for this knowledge im writing this down lol
oh damn ty for telling me this, i didnt know that ty for this knowledge im writing this down lol
okay okay so i wont have a criminal record since my charges are being expunged, and like i said the mental hospital stuff is a non issue since i never got 303 or 302, so am i like GOOD??? (other then like it being scary in general getting a gun ofc)
 
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lopsidedcrawdad1

Experienced
Jun 22, 2023
284
oh damn ty for telling me this, i didnt know that ty for this knowledge im writing this down lol
Again though, I really dont think its a good idea. Women are obviously way less likely to own guns than men, especially young women, and even more so women that arent visibly "rednecks" for lack of a better word. If i owned a gun store or worked at a gun counter, I would subconsciously be way more suspicious of someone like you. I cant in good conscious tell someone as young as you thats its a good idea for you to kill yourself, especially via that method.
 
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sadclown666

suicidal emo girl
Apr 23, 2023
31
Again though, I really dont think its a good idea. Women are obviously way less likely to own guns than men, especially young women, and even more so women that arent visibly "rednecks" for lack of a better word. If i owned a gun store or worked at a gun counter, I would subconsciously be way more suspicious of someone like you. I cant in good conscious tell someone as young as you thats its a good idea for you to kill yourself, especially via that method.
what if i popped a xan to not be visibly anxious, put on a blonde wig, dressed basic, and said it was for self defense

sorry that sounds so stupid but yuh
Again though, I really dont think its a good idea. Women are obviously way less likely to own guns than men, especially young women, and even more so women that arent visibly "rednecks" for lack of a better word. If i owned a gun store or worked at a gun counter, I would subconsciously be way more suspicious of someone like you. I cant in good conscious tell someone as young as you thats its a good idea for you to kill yourself, especially via that method.

this was on the firearms mega thread, do u know if this is legit or nah


 
BlackBlood6

BlackBlood6

Member
Dec 7, 2023
53
Someone said you can't if you have had a psych stay. I don't think that's true.

I asked around. They do a background check, only for criminal stuff. Also I know for a fact that Aaron Carter was on psychiatric medication for a long time and for the end of his life he'd been purchasing guns no issues. Just throwin that in there.
 
sadclown666

sadclown666

suicidal emo girl
Apr 23, 2023
31
Someone said you can't if you have had a psych stay. I don't think that's true.

I asked around. They do a background check, only for criminal stuff. Also I know for a fact that Aaron Carter was on psychiatric medication for a long time and for the end of his life he'd been purchasing guns no issues. Just throwin that in there.
yuh if its classified in ur medical record apparently background checks have nothing to see of it ever existing
 
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zel

Curiosity killed the cat, eh?
Oct 17, 2023
92
yuh if its classified in ur medical record apparently background checks have nothing to see of it ever existing
I'm not sure that's quite right, I mean maybe it is, but then it's conflicting with California statutory law. Now you may live somewhere else, but this is just meant to be an illustrative example of mental health records being factored in.

According to https://oag.ca.gov/ogvp/overview-firearm-law, there is a prohibition on gun ownership for any individual who is:
Taken into custody as a danger to self or others, assessed, and admitted to a mental health facility under Welfare and Institutions Code sections 5150, 5151, 5152; or certified under Welfare and Institutions Code sections 5250, 5260, 5270.15. Persons certified under Welfare and Institutions Code sections 5250, 5260, or 5270.15 may be subject to a lifetime prohibition pursuant to federal law. (Welf. & Inst. Code, §§ 8100and 8103.)
Now, I'm no lawyer so maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but it looks like they're clearly stating that this is a factor.
Anyway, you would do best to go to your local gun shop and ask some questions, as they will be best informed on local and federal laws. My two cents is that if it wasn't documented as involuntary in the first place, then you have nothing to worry about.

P.s. @BlackBlood6, this is what I was referring to. And for what it's worth, I didn't say anything about psychiatric medication, just about involuntary holds because of being a perceived danger (to self or others).
 
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