*plastic bag*how stupid*

[lumos_maxima]

Has anyone tried plastic bags without gas? So many articles about it...The sensations are terrible, but people in desperation achieve success...

 

[niiina]

I don't think it's a safe method :(

 

[LemonGambit]

Although possible, it would be really hard to actually go through with.
I guess you could try to restrain yourself before panic kicks in but it would definitely not be a very peaceful death.
I've tried this method once while desperate and it obviously hasn't worked out.
Maybe I just have very little willpower but I'd still recommend a different method.

 

[outrider567]

Has anyone tried plastic bags without gas? So many articles about it...The sensations are terrible, but people in desperation achieve success...

Tried it myself once just a test, you're just suffocating yourself to death, doesn't work, SI kicks in--PPH says this method(Final Exit with sleeping pills) has been deemed unreliable and is not recommended--An elderly couple did succeed with it, but both were desperate with terminal cancer

 

[Lookingtotalk]

I mean, people do it, it's not easy.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8947355/ - Asphyxial suicides using plastic bags
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11219130/ Two cases of death due to plastic bag suffocation

it is probably more common to combine plastic bag with other things, like hanging + plastic bag, for the sake of this thread i am not talking about exit bag i am only talking about plastic bag no gas suffocation, as i assume op means

 

[lumos_maxima]

Я не думаю, что это безопасный метод: (

yes, it's scary

Хотя это и возможно, на самом деле пройти через это было бы очень трудно.
Я думаю, вы могли бы попытаться сдержать себя до того, как начнется паника, но это определенно была бы не очень мирная смерть.
Я однажды попробовал этот метод, будучи в отчаянии, и он, очевидно, не сработал.
Может быть, у меня просто очень мало силы воли, но я бы все равно порекомендовал другой метод.

Have you tried to bind yourself? Or something like that?

Попробовал это сам однажды, просто тест, ты просто задыхаешься до смерти, не работает, срабатывает SI - PPH говорит, что этот метод (окончательный выход со снотворным) считается ненадежным и не рекомендуется - Пожилая пара преуспела в этом, но оба были в отчаянии от неизлечимого рака

Thank you for the information! Have you immobilized yourself in any way?

I mean, people do it, it's not easy.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8947355/ - Asphyxial suicides using plastic bags
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11219130/ Two cases of death due to plastic bag suffocation

it is probably more common to combine plastic bag with other things, like hanging + plastic bag, for the sake of this thread i am not talking about exit bag i am only talking about plastic bag no gas suffocation, as i assume op means

Really a lot of people do it! Yes, I just mean a plastic bag, since these things are easy to get, but difficult to make work.
Thank you!

 

[GasMonkey]

Once the CO₂ builds up you will try to free yourself by any means necessary.

 

[Raskolnikov's Axe]

Has anyone tried plastic bags without gas? So many articles about it...The sensations are terrible, but people in desperation achieve success...

Survival instinct kicks in. I wonder if it would work if one were drunk and semi restrained.

 

[lumos_maxima]

Survival instinct kicks in. I wonder if it would work if one were drunk and semi restrained.

Probably...

 

[Hollowillow]

I tried... It became so hot & humid I felt like I was drowning...

I wish I had succeded... I just lost my biggest motivation to hold on... Tired of ruining everything I touch... My home, relationships, dreams... I have a doctor appointment to convince my landlord to send help but my home has the acid everywhere... I'd have to flee with nothing... Please... God... Just kill me.... My hands get inflamed like I put them in a wasp nest when I touch my stuff... So dizzy... I can barely think... Please poison finish me off already... I'm in agony all over, my brain is mush, please... SI... Just let me die... I can't even cry because my head will hurt more... My skin burns like I'm melting in acid... Im in hell... Everyone mock, hate, me... I'm trash... Invalid on welfare... Need to take out myself... Maybe I should do it now...

I'm sorry everyone for being so dark even among dark. I belong nowhere...

Thank you for making me feel like I belong somewhere...

 

[lumos_maxima]

I tried... It became so hot & humid I felt like I was drowning...

Жаль, что мне это не удалось... Я просто потерял свою самую большую мотивацию держаться... Устал портить все, к чему прикасаюсь... Мой дом, отношения, мечты... У меня назначена встреча с врачом, чтобы убедить моего домовладельца прислать помощь, но в моем доме повсюду кислота... Мне пришлось бы бежать ни с чем... Пожалуйста... Боже... Просто убей меня.... Мои руки воспаляются, как будто я кладу их в осиное гнездо, когда прикасаюсь к своим вещам... Так кружится голова... Я едва могу думать... Пожалуйста, яд уже прикончил меня... Я весь в агонии, мой мозг превратился в кашу, пожалуйста... СИ... Просто дай мне умереть... Я даже не могу плакать, потому что моя голова будет болеть еще сильнее... Моя кожа горит, как будто я плавлюсь в кислоте... Я в аду... Все насмехаются надо мной, ненавидят меня... Я мусор... Инвалид на пособии... Нужно вывезти себя самому... Может быть, мне следует сделать это сейчас...

I'm sorry everyone for being so dark even among dark. I belong nowhere...

Thank you for making me feel like I belong somewhere...

I read your posts earlier. It's a pity that people don't understand. I hope you will manage not to die after all!

*hugs*

 

[theboy]

I also tried it. It is very difficult.

 

[Lookingtotalk]

I read your posts earlier. It's a pity that people don't understand. I hope you will manage not to die after all!

*hugs*

Is your profile pic how you actually look, you are not ugly at all?

 

[lumos_maxima]

Is your profile pic how you actually look, you are not ugly at all?

Yes, it's me...

 

[Lookingtotalk]

Yes, it's me...

you are not ugly at all, you are beautiful, i hope you are not suffering

 

[lumos_maxima]

you are not ugly at all, you are beautiful, i hope you are not suffering

Thanx so much! I hope, u too.
I think I'm lost in this world.

 

[LemonGambit]

Have you tried to bind yourself? Or something like that?

I tried but I wasn't fast enough.

 

[plastic]

I have a lot of experience with suffocation with a plastic bag. And that is my chosen method. This method is mostly scary for most people because after 2 minutes the suffocation process starts. The body struggles for air, convulses, and most often you unconsciously tear the bag off your head with your hands. Otherwise, this process lasts about 4 and a half minutes, when the fainting begins and the loss of energy in the body and suffocation is no longer so extreme, and after 5 minutes you pass out. For this method to be successful, you have to tie your hands tightly in some way so that you cannot tear the bag. It all depends on the size of the bag. If the bag is too small, suffocation starts almost instantly and is the worst option. If it is too big, the processes are slower and it will take a long time to pass out.

 

[actual_fox]

Has anyone tried plastic bags without gas? So many articles about it...The sensations are terrible, but people in desperation achieve success...

I hope your profile picture is not your real photo. Please be careful or you might get found and reported to police or sent to mental hospital.

 

[wlhenry]

I think it will not work

 

[plastic]

It works, but it's just not a peaceful method. It's not a painful method, but it's horrible in another way. How terrible it is is relative, for some it is, for some it is not. If you close the bag tightly around your head and tie your hands so that they cannot get close to the bag and tear it, then it will be successful for sure. I say this from experience. I have passed out many times using a bag...

 

[wlhenry]

It works, but it's just not a peaceful method. It's not a painful method, but it's horrible in another way. How terrible it is is relative, for some it is, for some it is not. If you close the bag tightly around your head and tie your hands so that they cannot get close to the bag and tear it, then it will be successful for sure. I say this from experience. I have passed out many times using a bag...

But i think due survival instinct people remove bag after passout

 

[plastic]

But i think due survival instinct people remove bag after passout

Yes, there is a high probability that you will tear bag with your hands after pass out if you have not tied your hands out of reach of the bag. If you want to go this way, it is best solution to tie your hands behind your back with handcuffs or similar, then it will be successful because there is no way to free your hands and tear the bag.

 

[wlhenry]

Yes, there is a high probability that you will tear bag with your hands after pass out if you have not tied your hands out of reach of the bag. If you want to go this way, it is best solution to tie your hands behind your back with handcuffs or similar, then it will be successful because there is no way to free your hands and tear the bag.

But you will suffocate too much

 

[👁️👃👁️]

But you will suffocate too much

Hi sir will you choose this method?

EDIT: Goodbye

 

[Longman]

I have passed out many times using a bag...

How did you manage to survive after passing out?

 

[leeloosnow]

one attempt i did in... 2018 i think was as follows-
- roughly 750ml pinot grigio (~10% alcohol content)
- 250mg methadone
- at least 20mg but not more than 30mg alprazolam
- exit hood made from oven/turkey bag cinched at neck
found a spot that apparently wasn't secluded enough under a big pine tree and did the thing. beginning at mid/late afternoon, was found early the next morning and hospitalized. don't really remember much, but my failure was most likely due to not properly sealing hood. was really high so probably wouldn't have been able to do a good job without better preparation. was given o2 immediately and don't recall any lasting effects past the time cognition/memory returned which took nearly a week. poorly executed (pun absolutely intended) attempt, wanted to achieve pharmaceutical unconsciousness cuz no inert gas available at time. didn't think it thru and account for loss of coordination, and the necessity for a leak-free hood.
having wanted to ctb for many years, i've researched/tried different things. working in animal rights has been helpful in this capacity as well. for example, there are crude kill mills that use inert gas asphyxiation to euthanize small animals. an early humane activist with lab exp employed a 'dry ice method', composed of a co2 extraction chamber and a death chamber. co2 is heavier than ambient air, kinda how you see dry ice to make pool fog and sometimes hypoxic partiers. many accounts report the animal(s) passed peacefully, but in my opinion too many document extended panic response, therefore i consider this a non-humane method. i think the panic response is due to the fact there are distinct physiological symptom(s) at several precise amounts of co2 levels in blood. the window for anesthetic co2 blood levels is really small, and when using non-precise backyard apparatus, that is almost guaranteed suffering. that's y we advocate against co2 in euthanasia (of any animals)
but it's also pertinent info when thinking abt ctb. if using an exit hood, it's important to replace ambient air with an inert gas, the goal is to have as little co2 in the hood as possible. rising co2 levels in blood will active the fight-or-flight aka sympathetic nervous system, causing involuntary panic and struggling. that's y drowning, suffocation, etc are such traumatic events. most exit hood guides say to exhale your last breath and pre-fill your hood with inert gas (usually nitrogen) before sealing hood in place. this is meant to prevent co2 from accumulating in the hood and allow the system to completely fill with nitrogen, causing loss of consciousness from hypoxia without rising blood co2 and panic, suffering, failed attempts. it's typically seconds before loss of consciousness but requires a very accurate setup. using a hood without replacing air w/nitrogen means the hood will gradually fill with co2 as you exhale, and panic will definitely set in before loss of consciousness. often removal of the hood is involuntary response, and its not gonna be comfortable as a stand alone method. considering this, i tried to get myself as high as possible so i either wouldn't panic, or would pass out faster. and yea that didn't work either. even the smallest leak when sealing the hood around the neck can be enough to seriously delay the whole process. i did pass out, not sure if it was the drugs or lack of oxygen, probably both. but after 12-14hrs time until i was found, i still hadn't ctb.
tl:dr exit hoods aren't effective/peaceful without extensive setup and inert gas

 

[plastic]

How did you manage to survive after passing out?

I didn't do it alone, I had a partner... I was in bdsm... that's why I know it's important to tie your hands well...

 

[Felix007]

arent you supposed to do it with sleeping pills? you take the sleeping pills, put on the bag, tighten it with rubber bands, fall asleep and once youve used up the oxygen in the bag, you are too tired to fight against it and die...

 

[almaranthine]

saw a very bizarre method on here about mixing baking soda and citric acid within a bag, and then fastening the bag closed around the neck... with tape I presume? the chemical reaction starts, and the CO2 builds up quickly within the enclosed space causing one to pass out. Seems like a very janky method in all honesty and I would imagine the fumes wouldn't be pleasant.