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lookingformywife

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I have N from D which I intend to use soonish. But tonight I was looking to try out 1 ml or 2 ml of the liquid to see how effective it is. Any suggestions on exactly how much I should try out to get knocked out for a few hours ?

I have a syringe that can measure accurately.
 
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Someone recently took 10 ml to test it and ended up in the hospital.
Thread 'Good news for those suffering from PSSD - N will kill you!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...se-suffering-from-pssd-n-will-kill-you.84148/
 
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lookingformywife

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Someone recently took 10 ml to test it and ended up in the hospital.
Thread 'Good news for those suffering from PSSD - N will kill you!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...se-suffering-from-pssd-n-will-kill-you.84148/
Wow, I wonder if it's not worth risking doing a trial then.
 
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eh, I'd just research a medical dosage for it.
 
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When I did my sleep/taste test I started with .5ml just to be safe (I'm very sensitive to most drugs to begin with). Actually I started with .25ml...waited 10 minutes and then when I didn't pass out took another .25ml. Then I passed out. It's better to take too little of this stuff than too much.
 
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I'd say 1ml if it's your first go. It very potent. Let us know what you think about the taste.
 
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1.5mL is safe and puts you at just over a standard therapeutic dose for an adult with insomnia. 2mL is also safe and you'll sleep like a rock.
 
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raghu1977

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I tried 1 ml first and had no effect. Next time I tried 3 ml and that put me to sleep for a few hours.

A lot depends on your body weight. I weigh 250 lbs.

I would suggest you try 1ml on day 1. If you dont see much effect - try 2 or 3 ml next day.

Keep in mind it takes a few minutes to kick in. So dont be tempted to keep adding a few ml. Otherwise you might knock yourself out for a few days. And use up a lot of your N.
 
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lookingformywife

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I had 0.25 ml of it a few minutes back and it doesn't taste that bad. The taste just lingers for a while though.

I don't feel the effects of it yet. Will update here if anything changes.
I think eight 165 pounds, 5 ' 6 male.
I had 0.25 ml of it a few minutes back and it doesn't taste that bad. The taste just lingers for a while though.

I don't feel the effects of it yet. Will update here if anything changes.
I weigh 165 pounds, 5 ' 6 male.
 
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1.5mL is safe and puts you at just over a standard therapeutic dose for an adult with insomnia. 2mL is also safe and you'll sleep like a rock.
What is a safe dose for a 90lb adult?
 
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What is a safe dose for a 90lb adult?
Try 1ml. 1 mg is the therapeutic dose that is given for insomnia. It is very potent. It's better to take too little than too much of this stuff.
 
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I recently took 50 mg of phenobarbital - I don't think I've ever felt worse than I did when I woke up after the weirdest night's sleep ever off that shit - I woke up at least 10 times after having the most horrible, vivid, nightmare each time. Barbs are not enjoyable, unlike Benzos!
 
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I recently took 50 mg of phenobarbital - I don't think I've ever felt worse than I did when I woke up after the weirdest night's sleep ever off that shit - I woke up at least 10 times after having the most horrible, vivid, nightmare each time. Barbs are not enjoyable, unlike Benzos!
Pheno and pento are not the same though.
 
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Smart No More

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I recently took 50 mg of phenobarbital - I don't think I've ever felt worse than I did when I woke up after the weirdest night's sleep ever off that shit - I woke up at least 10 times after having the most horrible, vivid, nightmare each time. Barbs are not enjoyable, unlike Benzos!
Wow, really? That's not ideal. People used to enjoy them though, right?

Can you describe what' s different about them in relation to benzos? I mean don't feel pressed to go into fine detail. I'm judt looking for a general understanding if possible.
 
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Wow, really? That's not ideal. People used to enjoy them though, right?

Can you describe what' s different about them in relation to benzos? I mean don't feel pressed to go into fine detail. I'm judt looking for a general understanding if possible.
Benzos just make me artificially dead; once I'm asleep, nothing can wake me up! With the phenobarbital, I kept waking up many times, then going back to sleep, and having vivid dreams as clear as TV, then I felt very suicidal the next day. But this is Pheno, not Pento (N), so probably doesn't compare. Valium is quite different to Xanax, so just because they are both 'barbs' or 'benzos' doesn't mean they'll have the same effect.
 
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Benzos just make me artificially dead; once I'm asleep, nothing can wake me up! With the phenobarbital, I kept waking up many times, then going back to sleep, and having vivid dreams as clear as TV, then I felt very suicidal the next day. But this is Pheno, not Pento (N), so probably doesn't compare. Valium is quite different to Xanax, so just because they are both 'barbs' or 'benzos' doesn't mean they'll have the same effect.
Okay, well thanks for expanding on it. :)

It's interesting to me too, because I actually do have waking bouts through the night when taking benzos occasionally. Ambien/Zolpidem too. Other time, like yourself I'm knocked out until I wake. The waking bouts seem to happen on the first day/night of use after abstaining for a while but subsequent nights I'm out for the night mostly. Ivm wondering if it could be an isolated issue for you (or anyone else) but obviously it's hard for you to answer that if you only uses it once.

I've seen a lot of people refer to their pento/N tests as like being drunk which isn't how I'd describe benzos so that makes me think there is a pretty different 'high' on barbs. I just don't know what to expect I guess.
 
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1 ml. ill tell u about my funny experience the other day with 1.75 ml Lol . so i have somewhat of a benzo tolerance so when i take 1ml, it works, but i fall asleep within an hour. i wanted it to hit me harder , i dont even remember why lol, so i took 1.75. i was sitting on the couch playing a game and got tired really fast, could hardly keep my eyes open. i get up and almost trip and fall, my muscles were extremely relaxed and couldnt hold myself up. i save myself by holding onto the couch, then i held onto the walls, and then the railing, and i made it to my room. when i got in bed i fell asleep asap. when using n be in bed or jump into bed ASAP!!!
 
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Okay, well thanks for expanding on it. :)

It's interesting to me too, because I actually do have waking bouts through the night when taking benzos occasionally. Ambien/Zolpidem too. Other time, like yourself I'm knocked out until I wake. The waking bouts seem to happen on the first day/night of use after abstaining for a while but subsequent nights I'm out for the night mostly. Ivm wondering if it could be an isolated issue for you (or anyone else) but obviously it's hard for you to answer that if you only uses it once.

I've seen a lot of people refer to their pento/N tests as like being drunk which isn't how I'd describe benzos so that makes me think there is a pretty different 'high' on barbs. I just don't know what to expect I guess.
I once took Zopiclone and I was awake all night long and I felt so suicidal the next day. One person's wonder-drug is another person's nightmare I guess. For me, Xanax is the perfect sleeping drug, along with Mirtazapine. Valium does nothing to me. I haven't tried any other Benzos, so maybe there's an even better one for sleep.
 
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I once took Zopiclone and I was awake all night long and I felt so suicidal the next day. One person's wonder-drug is another person's nightmare I guess. For me, Xanax is the perfect sleeping drug, along with Mirtazapine. Valium does nothing to me. I haven't tried any other Benzos, so maybe there's an even better one for sleep.
You'd probably like lorazepam and clonazepam but really the best sleep benzo I think is Nitrazepam or temazepam. On paper at least. Zopiclone and Zolpidem do weird things to some people. They're hypnotics and some people end up doing some really weird sleep walking stuff. A friend I went to school with got weird and violent with his girlfriend at the time. It was really disconcerting. Luckily it wasn't to the extent of physical abuse but I think she saw a totally different person in him that night.

Sounds like hypnotics might not be friendly to your needs. Perhaps that would explain your reaction to the phenobarbital.
 
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Pain In The Ass

Wizard
Feb 10, 2022
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You'd probably like lorazepam and clonazepam but really the best sleep benzo I think is Nitrazepam or temazepam. On paper at least. Zopiclone and Zolpidem do weird things to some people. They're hypnotics and some people end up doing some really weird sleep walking stuff. A friend I went to school with got weird and violent with his girlfriend at the time. It was really disconcerting. Luckily it wasn't to the extent of physical abuse but I think she saw a totally different person in him that night.

Sounds like hypnotics might not be friendly to your needs. Perhaps that would explain your reaction to the phenobarbital.
I have back-alley access to Clonazepam. Maybe I'll try some!
 
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I have back-alley access to Clonazepam. Maybe I'll try some!
Be careful of anything sold in loose pills. Chances are they're some other benzo or something else. Not sure what your source is but blidter packs are the safer bet although they are also forged/faked. Varies around the world but Bensedin Galenika is usually a pretty safe bet. There's a site feom the UK called Wedinos where people submit samples for testing and thw results are published on there site. It's a good way to see what brands ate currently being counterfeited and which are legitimate. It's good as you can search by keywords and brands.

Have you ever tried pregabalin? It's something I've never tried but it's a gabaergic like benzos but also kind of different. There's some interesting acxounts of using it on Erowid. That's another good source for info. It's got a lot of submitted accounts of various drug use. Pentobarbital and phenobarbital included.

Anyway, sorry @lookingformywife I hope we haven't derailed your thread. In answer to your original question most people use between 1ml & 2ml. If you use the search function of the forum you will find a few reports of taste/sleep tests. Some have used more. They also describe very quick tolerance build up with subsequent use. Seems like that first dose will be quite powerful and harder to acheive with thw same dose even days later. It led one member to take extra (3ml) total and it knocked them out but they were confused by the tolerance and feared their N had degraded.
 
Pain In The Ass

Pain In The Ass

Wizard
Feb 10, 2022
638
Be careful of anything sold in loose pills. Chances are they're some other benzo or something else. Not sure what your source is but blidter packs are the safer bet although they are also forged/faked. Varies around the world but Bensedin Galenika is usually a pretty safe bet. There's a site feom the UK called Wedinos where people submit samples for testing and thw results are published on there site. It's a good way to see what brands ate currently being counterfeited and which are legitimate. It's good as you can search by keywords and brands.

Have you ever tried pregabalin? It's something I've never tried but it's a gabaergic like benzos but also kind of different. There's some interesting acxounts of using it on Erowid. That's another good source for info. It's got a lot of submitted accounts of various drug use. Pentobarbital and phenobarbital included.

Anyway, sorry @lookingformywife I hope we haven't derailed your thread. In answer to your original question most people use between 1ml & 2ml. If you use the search function of the forum you will find a few reports of taste/sleep tests. Some have used more. They also describe very quick tolerance build up with subsequent use. Seems like that first dose will be quite powerful and harder to acheive with thw same dose even days later. It led one member to take extra (3ml) total and it knocked them out but they were confused by the tolerance and feared their N had degraded.
My source is usually pharma grade only, Xan is galenika, I have tried gabapentin, similar to prega, made me sleep pretty good but also left me depressed after stopping after a few weeks on it
 
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1 ml. ill tell u about my funny experience the other day with 1.75 ml Lol . so i have somewhat of a benzo tolerance so when i take 1ml, it works, but i fall asleep within an hour. i wanted it to hit me harder , i dont even remember why lol, so i took 1.75. i was sitting on the couch playing a game and got tired really fast, could hardly keep my eyes open. i get up and almost trip and fall, my muscles were extremely relaxed and couldnt hold myself up. i save myself by holding onto the couch, then i held onto the walls, and then the railing, and i made it to my room. when i got in bed i fell asleep asap. when using n be in bed or jump into bed ASAP!!!
How long did u sleep?
 

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