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Hi I am planning my date and was wondering if anyone has heard of putting a advanced decision in place to ensure unless changed by yourself of sound mind ment they couldn't say give u cirtern medical treatment like ethleen blue or others personaly glucose due to hypoglycemia
 
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I recommend one.for everyone. It also gives the medical team some insight in to your wishes... ive listed DNR and other procedures as excluded. Ive also appointed a power of attorney who represents me if im incapacitated but he is not awa re of my ctb plans, he is there just in case my plan backfires though to be honest, plan proffers almost 100% certainty.
 
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A very wise choice that many don't implement before it's too late.
 
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Hi I am planning my date and was wondering if anyone has heard of putting a advanced decision in place to ensure unless changed by yourself of sound mind ment they couldn't say give u cirtern medical treatment like ethleen blue or others personaly glucose due to hypoglycemia
Fwiw, it's methylene blue, not ethleen blue. 🙂
 
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Jan 31, 2021
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I agree that it is a good idea for everyone to have a living will in place ahead of time so the doctors know what type of treatment you want and your wishes would be respected. TBH, I'm not sure if they would honor your DNR wish if it was an obvious suicide attempt. They would probably argue that since you tried to commit suicide you are not of sound mind, and if you were of sound mind you would want to be saved. They may try to save you anyway, because they would fear that your family would sue them if they didn't under those circumstances. I had to sign a living will and a healthcare proxy when I had cancer, before they would treat me. It is pretty straightforward. In order for it to be legal, you have to have 2 witnesses sign the form and have it notorized. Getting a DNR bracelet or tattoo is not legally binding and won't be honoured. Also you need to give a copy to the hospital you are treated at and have it on file ahead of time. If there are several hospitals in your area, all of them need to have a copy of it. For example, If there are 3 hospitals in your area and you always go to hospital number 1, so you give them a copy. If you are taken to hospital number 2 or 3 for some reason, and they don't have a copy on file, it doesn't exist for them and they won't waste their time trying to track it down especially if you are in the ER.
 
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I agree that it is a good idea for everyone to have a living will in place ahead of time so the doctors know what type of treatment you want and your wishes would be respected. TBH, I'm not sure if they would honor your DNR wish if it was an obvious suicide attempt. They would probably argue that since you tried to commit suicide you are not of sound mind, and if you were of sound mind you would want to be saved. They may try to save you anyway, because they would fear that your family would sue them if they didn't under those circumstances. I had to sign a living will and a healthcare proxy when I had cancer, before they would treat me. It is pretty straightforward. In order for it to be legal, you have to have 2 witnesses sign the form and have it notorized. Getting a DNR bracelet or tattoo is not legally binding and won't be honoured. Also you need to give a copy to the hospital you are treated at and have it on file ahead of time. If there are several hospitals in your area, all of them need to have a copy of it. For example, If there are 3 hospitals in your area and you always go to hospital number 1, so you give them a copy. If you are taken to hospital number 2 or 3 for some reason, and they don't have a copy on file, it doesn't exist for them and they won't waste their time trying to track it down especially if you are in the ER.
I have spoken to my mental health team and even having one of them sign it as a witness as a proof that I was in sound mind when I put the living will forward
I have spoken to my mental health team and even having one of them sign it as a witness as a proof that I was in sound mind when I put the living will forward
Also only one hospital near me and the mental health team have already said they would add to my record with them my gp and hospital as they don't have a reason to not allow it to be put forward just can't face it failing again
 
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Mar 1, 2022
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Just know that having a will, even one on file with an attorney, does not matter much because your estate will still go through probate and it can get messy, with family or whoever trying to assert their right to your property.

As for me, I don't really have a need for a will as such. In this state, and in most states, the intercessory laws stipulate my dad as my next of kin. He'll get everything, so I am going to write a note to him directly and hope that they respect my wishes. I will tell him what property of mine I want to bequeath to my brothers and sister. What things he can keep, and lost my assets and what they are worth, and how to sell them. He can keep the money, I won't need it and he could use it, being a senior in retirement.

All I want is to be cremated, and have a few of my things go to my brothers or sister. I want to tell them not to have a funeral but that seems cruel, it's really not for me, but for them... so I'll tell them if they want the family to gather that's ok but I don't want them inviting anyone of my so-called friends who I never talk to anymore. I don't even care if they know I am dead tbh.
 
BrokenBliss

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Jan 11, 2022
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I wonder about this. Shouldn't you have a copy of it in the room with you, for if you're found unconscious, a document in someone's office file cabinet won't stop the EMTs from trying to revive you.
 
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I wonder about this. Shouldn't you have a copy of it in the room with you, for if you're found unconscious, a document in someone's office file cabinet won't stop the EMTs from trying to revive you.
Yes it's best to have one close by and visible with you so if found it would be seen
Just know that having a will, even one on file with an attorney, does not matter much because your estate will still go through probate and it can get messy, with family or whoever trying to assert their right to your property.

As for me, I don't really have a need for a will as such. In this state, and in most states, the intercessory laws stipulate my dad as my next of kin. He'll get everything, so I am going to write a note to him directly and hope that they respect my wishes. I will tell him what property of mine I want to bequeath to my brothers and sister. What things he can keep, and lost my assets and what they are worth, and how to sell them. He can keep the money, I won't need it and he could use it, being a senior in retirement.

All I want is to be cremated, and have a few of my things go to my brothers or sister. I want to tell them not to have a funeral but that seems cruel, it's really not for me, but for them... so I'll tell them if they want the family to gather that's ok but I don't want them inviting anyone of my so-called friends who I never talk to anymore. I don't even care if they know I am dead tbh.
The living will won't matter as my wife would take over the estate I'm in the UK and a living will is one to determine what treatment you consent to or specifically want to reject if u become unable to communicate otherwise so if I'm found still alive it would stipulate that I don't want to be given cirtern medical treatment like iv glucose or methylene blue to TREAT SN intoxication
Just know that having a will, even one on file with an attorney, does not matter much because your estate will still go through probate and it can get messy, with family or whoever trying to assert their right to your property.

As for me, I don't really have a need for a will as such. In this state, and in most states, the intercessory laws stipulate my dad as my next of kin. He'll get everything, so I am going to write a note to him directly and hope that they respect my wishes. I will tell him what property of mine I want to bequeath to my brothers and sister. What things he can keep, and lost my assets and what they are worth, and how to sell them. He can keep the money, I won't need it and he could use it, being a senior in retirement.

All I want is to be cremated, and have a few of my things go to my brothers or sister. I want to tell them not to have a funeral but that seems cruel, it's really not for me, but for them... so I'll tell them if they want the family to gather that's ok but I don't want them inviting anyone of my so-called friends who I never talk to anymore. I don't even care if they know I am dead tbh.
The living will won't matter as my wife would take over the estate I'm in the UK and a living will is one to determine what treatment you consent to or specifically want to reject if u become unable to communicate otherwise so if I'm found still alive it would stipulate that I don't want to be given cirtern medical treatment like iv glucose or methylene blue to TREAT SN intoxication
 
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Hercules

Hercules

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Jan 31, 2021
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I wonder about this. Shouldn't you have a copy of it in the room with you, for if you're found unconscious, a document in someone's office file cabinet won't stop the EMTs from trying to revive you.
Yes that's a good point. The EMTS would have to see a copy or else they would be obligated to save you. They would risk being sued if they didn't. Probably you would want to have a copy right next to you, so they can't miss seeing it.
 
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Yes that's a good point. The EMTS would have to see a copy or else they would be obligated to save you. They would risk being sued if they didn't
I plan on having my paperwork taped to the front of my closed bedroom door, along with a simple message in very large block letters: DNR Tho by the time they come looking for me, I'll be long gone.
 
Hercules

Hercules

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Jan 31, 2021
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Just know that having a will, even one on file with an attorney, does not matter much because your estate will still go through probate and it can get messy, with family or whoever trying to assert their right to your property.
You can have an attorney draw up a trust instead. A trust doesn't have to go through probate. Your trustee would be able to distrubte your money and property to your beneficiaries immediately after your death. All they would need is your death certificate and a copy of the trust.
As for me, I don't really have a need for a will as such. In this state, and in most states, the intercessory laws stipulate my dad as my next of kin. He'll get everything, so I am going to write a note to him directly and hope that they respect my wishes. I will tell him what property of mine I want to bequeath to my brothers and sister. What things he can keep, and lost my assets and what they are worth, and how to sell them. He can keep the money, I won't need it and he could use it, being a senior in retirement.
Many times, I have seen people who have otherwise seemed kind and decent let greed get the best of them when a relative dies. They suddenly become greedy vultures and start a family feud that lasts for years in an attempt to get the deceased money and property all for themselves. I'm not saying that you can't trust your relatives or that they won't respect your wishes. You know your own family best, of course. I'm just saying be careful. It may be better for you to set something up with an attorney to be sure that your wishes are respected.
 
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UpandDownPrincess

UpandDownPrincess

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Dec 31, 2019
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Paperwork, even if it's right there with you is often not enough.

When my aunt passed, the DNR and advance directives were at her bedside and the EMTs revived her anyway.

In her town, a specific bracelet is required that authorizes in advance that the patient is expected to pass at home and has a valid DNR on file with a local hospice or end-of-life professional.

First responders are trained and obligated to save lives. It's their job. You might want to inquire what the procedure for DNR at home is in your local area.

When you are found, the person who finds you will likely call 911 (999), which - by definition - requests emergency assistance.
 
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