phenobarbital

[Pain In The Ass]

I have read that...

The toxic dose of barbiturates varies. However, an oral dose of one gram for most barbiturates can cause significant poisoning in an adult. Fatal cases of ingestion have occurred with doses ranging between 2.0 and 10.0 grams

The lethal dose of phenobarbital is between 6–10 grams, or 6,000 to 10,000 milligrams (mg).

I have access to 9.8 mg phenobarbital tablets

9.8 mg x 210 tabs = 2058 mg (2 grams)
9.8 mg x 630 tabs = 6174 mg (6 grams)
9.8 mg x 1020 tabs = 9996 mg (10 grams)

1) Do you think phenobarbital on it's own cause a peaceful CTB in a similar way to pentobarbital, at 10 grams, or is it too slow acting for this, and may just result in 5 day coma?

2) Would phenobarbital be better utilized in addition to other methods, such as for sedation whilst full-suspension for example - or maybe combined with alcohol, Benzo, Fent patches for a multi-method OD?

I will try one tonight just to check they're legit. Any idea on the dose? 1) Daytime sedative: 30 to 120 mg daily in 2 to 3 divided doses. 2) Bedtime hypnotic: 100 to 320 mg. I might take 50 mg and see what happens - surely I'd feel something from that is they're real, wouldn't I?

 

[LifeHasNoOptIn]

2) Would phenobarbital be better utilized in addition to other methods, such as for sedation whilst full-suspension for example - or maybe combined with alcohol, Benzo, Fent patches for a multi-method OD?

This seems more like a viable use, but just a guess as I have no idea how useful it is for CTB by itself.

 

[wljourney]

That's a very large number of tablets and since they include "fillers" it is very likely that your body will reject (aka throw up) this many tablets. Maybe not 200 but 600 is difficult to keep in.

Possibly crushed and diluted with water?

 

[woknows]

I was considering the same way. I want to mix it with alcohol.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

That's a very large number of tablets and since they include "fillers" it is very likely that your body will reject (aka throw up) this many tablets. Maybe not 200 but 600 is difficult to keep in.

Possibly crushed and diluted with water?

they come as capsules, so powder inside, but yes, still quite a bit of powder, if I hold my nose I'm quite good with resisting gagging/retching, big glass of baileys after, I can just perch on a ledge somewhere with a noose attached, smoking and sipping on booze, until I fall asleep and full-hang, in a place where no one ever goes

 

[Shadow777]

I read somewhere that vets use it in an IV drip to euthanize animals. Suppose to be quite peaceful. But that is a dog I have no idea when it comes to tablets and humans.

 

[lostmylove]

I have read that...

The toxic dose of barbiturates varies. However, an oral dose of one gram for most barbiturates can cause significant poisoning in an adult. Fatal cases of ingestion have occurred with doses ranging between 2.0 and 10.0 grams

The lethal dose of phenobarbital is between 6–10 grams, or 6,000 to 10,000 milligrams (mg).

I have access to 9.8 mg phenobarbital tablets

9.8 mg x 210 tabs = 2058 mg (2 grams)
9.8 mg x 630 tabs = 6174 mg (6 grams)
9.8 mg x 1020 tabs = 9996 mg (10 grams)

1) Do you think phenobarbital on it's own cause a peaceful CTB in a similar way to pentobarbital, at 10 grams, or is it too slow acting for this, and may just result in 5 day coma?

2) Would phenobarbital be better utilized in addition to other methods, such as for sedation whilst full-suspension for example - or maybe combined with alcohol, Benzo, Fent patches for a multi-method OD?

I will try one tonight just to check they're legit. Any idea on the dose? 1) Daytime sedative: 30 to 120 mg daily in 2 to 3 divided doses. 2) Bedtime hypnotic: 100 to 320 mg. I might take 50 mg and see what happens - surely I'd feel something from that is they're real, wouldn't I?

Friend of mine recently took over a lethal dose of Methaqualone recently and it knocked him back but didn't kill him. I'd be very cautious of using the source you've got for the lethal dose. Make sure you over do it . Think for example with SN people take x10 lethal dose and with N people take x5 lethal dose.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Phenobarbital is 13 times less lipophilic than pentobarbital. So, the anesthetic effect onset time is long. Its effect on GABA receptors is different than pentobarbital. Pentobarbital is called a full agonist, while phenobarbital is called a semi-agonist. It is antiepileptic even at subanesthetic doses. A search is needed for case reports of CTB with phenobarbital.

 

[woknows]

Phenobarbital has been successfully used before. Period.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

Phenobarbital is 13 times less lipophilic than pentobarbital. So, the anesthetic effect onset time is long. Its effect on GABA receptors is different than pentobarbital. Pentobarbital is called a full agonist, while phenobarbital is called a semi-agonist. It is antiepileptic even at subanesthetic doses. A search is needed for case reports of CTB with phenobarbital.

from what I can see, it would be more useful in conjunction with other methods, as strong sedation - doesn't seem to be as immediately lethal as N

 

[Sunset Limited]

from what I can see, it would be more useful in conjunction with other methods, as strong sedation - doesn't seem to be as immediately lethal as N

I think CTB with phenobarbital lasts longer. The blood concentration required for CTB takes a long time to reach the peak effect. Still it does the job. The important point is not to be found by anyone for a long time.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

I think CTB with phenobarbital lasts longer. The blood concentration required for CTB takes a long time to reach the peak effect. Still it does the job. The important point is not to be found by anyone for a long time.

Would you stay unconscious for the duration of the process - I'd be afraid of drifting in and out of consciousness - maybe a lot of benzos with it would be helpful

 

[Sunset Limited]

Would you stay unconscious for the duration of the process - I'd be afraid of drifting in and out of consciousness - maybe a lot of benzos with it would be helpful

I don't think you will ever be conscious.

 

[David8886]

I have read that...

The toxic dose of barbiturates varies. However, an oral dose of one gram for most barbiturates can cause significant poisoning in an adult. Fatal cases of ingestion have occurred with doses ranging between 2.0 and 10.0 grams

The lethal dose of phenobarbital is between 6–10 grams, or 6,000 to 10,000 milligrams (mg).

I have access to 9.8 mg phenobarbital tablets

9.8 mg x 210 tabs = 2058 mg (2 grams)
9.8 mg x 630 tabs = 6174 mg (6 grams)
9.8 mg x 1020 tabs = 9996 mg (10 grams)

1) Do you think phenobarbital on it's own cause a peaceful CTB in a similar way to pentobarbital, at 10 grams, or is it too slow acting for this, and may just result in 5 day coma?

2) Would phenobarbital be better utilized in addition to other methods, such as for sedation whilst full-suspension for example - or maybe combined with alcohol, Benzo, Fent patches for a multi-method OD?

I will try one tonight just to check they're legit. Any idea on the dose? 1) Daytime sedative: 30 to 120 mg daily in 2 to 3 divided doses. 2) Bedtime hypnotic: 100 to 320 mg. I might take 50 mg and see what happens - surely I'd feel something from that is they're real, wouldn't I?

i have access to 100mg pheno
i want use 100gr
how long time can i success suicide
is it painless

 

[Pain In The Ass]

i have access to 100mg pheno
i want use 100gr
how long time can i success suicide
is it painless

I took 50 mg of pheno and I had the worse night sleep and I felt so suicidal the next day - if you have 100mg, you will need x 100 of that (10,000mg) to make sure it works I think

 

[David8886]

I took 50 mg of pheno and I had the worse night sleep and I felt so suicidal the next day - if you have 100mg, you will need x 100 of that (10,000mg) to make sure it works I think

No i meant was is pheno painless
How long does it take for phenobarbital to kill humans
If this is long, is there a way to shorten the time, or kill sooner

 

[Pain In The Ass]

No i meant was is pheno painless
How long does it take for phenobarbital to kill humans
If this is long, is there a way to shorten the time, or kill sooner

Secobarbital is fastest, then Pento (N), then Pheno, so I don't know how that would change the approach - if it's slow absorbing, I'm guessing you'd need more of the Barb so the blood level reaches the lethal level at some point, or maybe lots of alcohol to hasten the process, and maybe lots of Benzos too - I don't know enough about it.

 

[woknows]

No i meant was is pheno painless
How long does it take for phenobarbital to kill humans
If this is long, is there a way to shorten the time, or kill sooner

Do you have access to 100 mg or100 g? First, you should know what you even have.

100 g is lethal unless you vomit. I think even 6 g is enough. But no one can guarantee it.

It sounds peaceful. I doubt anyone can tell you exactly how long it will take. I guess it is longer than with Nembutal.

You should make sure this is what you really want. There is no coming back.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

No i meant was is pheno painless
How long does it take for phenobarbital to kill humans
If this is long, is there a way to shorten the time, or kill sooner

Pheno is advised as a solo, or as a multi-drug protocol - From PPH...

The 3-Drug Protocol The three drugs involvedin the 3-drug protocol are morphinesulphate, chloral hydrate and the (slow, but available) barbiturate, phenobarbital, The drugs and the quantities required are shownin the diagramon the previous page Morphinesulphate - is the most difficult drug to source, giventhe restrictions on this addictive opiate. The sample pictured contains 50 x 60mg tablets, or the 3gmof morphine sulphate required Chloral hydrate - is a sedative that can be usedas alethal, solo drug. The bottle pictured has a concentration of 1gm/ 10ml. A 200ml bottle would contain the required 20gms Phenobarbital - is a slow-acting barbiturate that is still prescribed as an anti-convulsant, It can also be used as a solo end oflife agent (see "Taking Nembutal' Chapter). The illustration shows 200 x 30mg tablets, making a total of 6gmof the 20gmrequired Note,there is no so-called 'cardiac switch' in the 3-drug protocol Death is from hypoxic hypoxia associated with the sedative effects of the drugs involved Using the 3-Drug Mixture With a mortar andpestle, the phenobarbis crushedandthen mixed with the crushed morphine sulphate tablets. Once the 200ml of chloral hydrate is added, the mixture is stirred well before being drunk quickly, Ananti-emetic is required. The suggested protocol is 2 x lOmg metoclopramide tablets, along with 8mg of ondansetron to increase relaxation and enhancetheeffect of the metoclopramide.

The guys in Ukraine who sells it is currently 'sold 'out anyway, probably due to the war, so, this is all probably redundant.

Do you have access to 100 mg or100 g? First, you should know what you even have.

They come in packs of 30 capsules with 10 mg in each capsule, so that's 300 mg per packet, so you'd need 20 packets to do the job, at 6g. And the guy is currently 'sold out' as he's fighting a war in Ukraine or some shit. I ordered one packet just as the war started. The internal powder tastes nice though, like strawberry and vanilla! There's other shit in there too.

 

[woknows]

How much did you pay for it?

 

[Pain In The Ass]

How much did you pay for it?

$20, but he's all out now - had I ordered 20 boxes, maybe customs would've not liked that, I don't know!

 

[woknows]

I suppose ordering opioids would go over worse;)
I bought one box only too. It did not really help me sleep. Maybe I will buy more and use them. Sounds like a solid option. Then again I could use Tramadol + Alcohol. I am pretty sure it would do the job. If that would no work, I guess I would die cause of liver failure, but that does not sound fun.

 

[David8886]

Do you have access to 100 mg or100 g? First, you should know what you even have.

100 g is lethal unless you vomit. I think even 6 g is enough. But no one can guarantee it.

It sounds peaceful. I doubt anyone can tell you exactly how long it will take. I guess it is longer than with Nembutal.

You should make sure this is what you really want. There is no coming back.

hi
can buy 100gr pheno
but is very slow
also There is a possibility of vomiting

Secobarbital is fastest, then Pento (N), then Pheno, so I don't know how that would change the approach - if it's slow absorbing, I'm guessing you'd need more of the Barb so the blood level reaches the lethal level at some point, or maybe lots of alcohol to hasten the process, and maybe lots of Benzos too - I don't know enough about it.

i should follow Secobarbital

 

[Pain In The Ass]

Secobarbital

apparently Seco is very hard to get hold of and costs thousands $$$