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cattalk610

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damn this is so hard to explain. I just can't relate to anything people say or feel. I don't want to be mean, but i just feel like we don't have the same depth. I feel culpability for that. they're just not interesting... even if they are the nicest ever. and the most clever... i'm just not attracted to them.
So i can't even consider myself as "lonely". Cause yes i have an extreme loneliness (no friends and a very toxic family), but i don't want to be with people. Because i know i will loose this depth of me.

anybody kinda feel that way ... ?
 
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I have no family or friends and feel lonely.
 
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I am instead feel like a lost all my depth and exist only in depression dimension where nothing makes any sense. Everything other people are interested in and found existing is just painfully boring.
 
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damn this is so hard to explain. I just can't relate to anything people say or feel. I don't want to be mean, but i just feel like we don't have the same depth. I feel culpability for that. they're just not interesting... even if they are the nicest ever. and the most clever... i'm just not attracted to them.
So i can't even consider myself as "lonely". Cause yes i have an extreme loneliness (no friends and a very toxic family), but i don't want to be with people. Because i know i will loose this depth of me.

anybody kinda feel that way ... ?
I'm no psych so I could be way off mark but... have you ever read about schizoid personality disorder?
 
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Vault of Memories

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Mar 24, 2020
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I find the stuff most people converse about to be boring. I can't help but stare into space and drift off into my own little world.
 
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I see myself as a philosopher so most of what people talk about bores me they just regutitate everything they see on the internet or watch on TV like talking about a singing show e.g. American Idol etc. or when they talk about their job seriously I don´t give a shit I see the world from a far away perspective like from out of space and the more you zoom out the more insignificant our lives become i.e. nihilism so I think about the big aspect of the universe why most or I might as well say all people are only interested in the zoomed in version of "reality" i.e. what they get fed through the news, trivial TV shows etc.
 
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cattalk610

I've gotta get up early tomorrow again
Apr 14, 2020
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I am instead feel like a lost all my depth and exist only in depression dimension where nothing makes any sense. Everything other people are interested in and found existing is just painfully boring.

i also do feel like this. It's really painfully boring because it's just a waste of time. I am not myself when i am with others. Absolutely nothing feels true but crying so hard
I'm no psych so I could be way off mark but... have you ever read about schizoid personality disorder?

i've never really heard about that i think... I've read the symptoms and yeah that's how i feel but i feel like if i read the symptoms of all the disorders possible i could relate... And that drives me so crazy to not be able to put words on how i feel about people, and having a disorder would help understanding somehow. But i don't wish to have one tho
 
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i can relate to what PO is saying. And i think its cos we have less meaningful relationship/interactions nowadays as opposed to when we lived in a tribe. Im generalizing of course.
 
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Donk

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Jan 3, 2020
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for me its the opposite. i find myself to be boring. whenever im involve in a conversation i usually ask questions about the other person and avoid talking about myself or express thoughts in my head. most of the time my mind is blank and i have nothing to say. im always afraid people will judge me and think what comes out of my mouth is total rubbish. even if i have an interesting insight i want to express it will come off dumb because im not very articulate.
 
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maru.

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Idk, try to look at it from a more positive perspective: Perhaps the same way you aren't yourself when you're with others, others aren't themselves when they're with you.

What i'm trying to say is that, in my eyes, all of us have depth, and nothing/no one is black and white, it's just that it's hard showing our deepest parts to others, that's why usually in social circles conversations seem more superficial.

There's also the nature of social circles, a lot of them are at work, or college, busy places for busy people with busy lives, things have to be quick and as a result, more shallow as well. Also, on a side note, just remember that things don't have to be interesting all of the time, it's important to try to turn off your brain every once in a while, that's why everyone does it, if we don't do it, we go crazy! Maybe try to set up a discord with people you know, play games together, have a laugh, things don't have to be interesting or deep for the feeling of loneliness to go away for a while.

What i'm saying is, maybe the people around you feel the same way you do, maybe not, but still, maybe they do, maybe all of them, maybe a couple, idk...
Just don't give up on other people and on friendships just yet, i have many problems, but loneliness thankfully isn't one of them to a certain extent, and i gotta say, the people around me are the main reason i'm still going, there is a lot to love out there.

Sorry if i came off as rude in any part of my reply here, it wasn't my intention, i'm just bad at expressing myself through writing tbh...
 
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cattalk610

I've gotta get up early tomorrow again
Apr 14, 2020
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Idk, try to look at it from a more positive perspective: Perhaps the same way you aren't yourself when you're with others, others aren't themselves when they're with you.

What i'm trying to say is that, in my eyes, all of us have depth, and nothing/no one is black and white, it's just that it's hard showing our deepest parts to others, that's why usually in social circles conversations seem more superficial.

There's also the nature of social circles, a lot of them are at work, or college, busy places for busy people with busy lives, things have to be quick and as a result, more shallow as well. Also, on a side note, just remember that things don't have to be interesting all of the time, it's important to try to turn off your brain every once in a while, that's why everyone does it, if we don't do it, we go crazy! Maybe try to set up a discord with people you know, play games together, have a laugh, things don't have to be interesting or deep for the feeling of loneliness to go away for a while.

What i'm saying is, maybe the people around you feel the same way you do, maybe not, but still, maybe they do, maybe all of them, maybe a couple, idk...
Just don't give up on other people and on friendships just yet, i have many problems, but loneliness thankfully isn't one of them to a certain extent, and i gotta say, the people around me are the main reason i'm still going, there is a lot to love out there.

Sorry if i came off as rude in any part of my reply here, it wasn't my intention, i'm just bad at expressing myself through writing tbh...

No, it wasn't rude, thank you for your advice. I try to think like this, and i know that some people might feel the same way as me, but i just feel like it doesn't match with mine. I'm trying to work on that but every time i feel like i'm acting, and i'm not myself. I just feel like we have complete opposite way of thinking and being. Even if i wanna change it's very hard. However, you're right i should focus maybe more on accepting to not always have a very interesting relationship. But all of these just seem like a lot for me haha
 
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maru.

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Apr 6, 2020
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No, it wasn't rude, thank you for your advice. I try to think like this, and i know that some people might feel the same way as me, but i just feel like it doesn't match with mine. I'm trying to work on that but every time i feel like i'm acting, and i'm not myself. I just feel like we have complete opposite way of thinking and being. Even if i wanna change it's very hard. However, you're right i should focus maybe more on accepting to not always have a very interesting relationship. But all of these just seem like a lot for me haha

I'm gonna try to give a little more advice here since relationships are something i feel comfortable with, and i want to help as much as i can, i don't feel like i've said enough with my first reply.

I really like the fact that you're clearly trying to improve and be positive. Even if it all seems like a lot to you, and that's because it really is, you're already doing well in many ways, which is a great start.

I don't remember where i read this, but there was a saying that goes like this: "There are 3 versions of you. One you show to most people, One to people that are close to you, and the last you only show to yourself", So really, in most relationships in life, we are "Lite" versions of ourselves, but that's not a bad thing necessarily.

Giving a personal example, my class in college has about 50 people. I'd say that i have a good, friendly relationship with all of them. However, with the exception of my closest friends, i don't know much about everyone else. I can't tell you their interests, hobbies, anything like that, but i still like to spend time with them.
One more specific example is a classmate of mine that, everytime we see each other for the first time in a day, we can't just say "hi" and shake hands, we have to hug, i don't even know why we do it, but it's nice. I don't know a whole lot about him, but damn, i adore that dude, cuz he's just so nice and friendly.

I think that's the key aspect here, with most people, relations aren't going to be too deep, that's normal cuz the human brain can't even keep up with to many relationships if they're all to profound. Most of the time it comes down to just being nice and friendly, most people will be nice and friendly in return, and it feels good to give and receive these positive vibes. That's why in a class of 50, i can say that i like everyone there, and have a good relationship, even friendship, with them. It's just a matter of saying "hi" every day, asking people how they've been, small talk about hobbies and interests, not thinking too much about it, just being gentle.

Now, i know you're looking for something more than that, but from my experience, this is how it all starts, those friendships of a life time, they start with a simple greeting and small talk, you just do that every day until it starts going further naturally, more for some people than others, and then you make the distinction of "colleague" and "friend".

Keep working hard, and i'm sure that eventually you'll defeat all loneliness with the help of some people you genuinely like. Until then, if you have trouble and feel a need for help, or maybe even just to vent, this place is full of people willing to help as much as they can. Good luck!
 
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disabledandhopeless

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I have no friends and a toxic family too. I understand. I always felt that nobody understands me or see things from my point of view.
 
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muffin222

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Mar 31, 2020
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I feel the same way. I'm autistic, so the feeling of not being able to relate to people is amplified even more. I just don't find people as individuals interesting. Human beings as a whole are quite intriguing from a psychological perspective, but I don't have any interest in chit-chatting with the average person on the street. It's not fun for me
 
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cattalk610

I've gotta get up early tomorrow again
Apr 14, 2020
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I feel the same way. I'm autistic, so the feeling of not being able to relate to people is amplified even more. I just don't find people as individuals interesting. Human beings as a whole are quite intriguing from a psychological perspective, but I don't have any interest in chit-chatting with the average person on the street. It's not fun for me

exactly! i also have to keep it to myself a lot when i'm surrounded by people. I always have to do a lot of efforts, and it's exhausting
I'm gonna try to give a little more advice here since relationships are something i feel comfortable with, and i want to help as much as i can, i don't feel like i've said enough with my first reply.

I really like the fact that you're clearly trying to improve and be positive. Even if it all seems like a lot to you, and that's because it really is, you're already doing well in many ways, which is a great start.

I don't remember where i read this, but there was a saying that goes like this: "There are 3 versions of you. One you show to most people, One to people that are close to you, and the last you only show to yourself", So really, in most relationships in life, we are "Lite" versions of ourselves, but that's not a bad thing necessarily.

Giving a personal example, my class in college has about 50 people. I'd say that i have a good, friendly relationship with all of them. However, with the exception of my closest friends, i don't know much about everyone else. I can't tell you their interests, hobbies, anything like that, but i still like to spend time with them.
One more specific example is a classmate of mine that, everytime we see each other for the first time in a day, we can't just say "hi" and shake hands, we have to hug, i don't even know why we do it, but it's nice. I don't know a whole lot about him, but damn, i adore that dude, cuz he's just so nice and friendly.

I think that's the key aspect here, with most people, relations aren't going to be too deep, that's normal cuz the human brain can't even keep up with to many relationships if they're all to profound. Most of the time it comes down to just being nice and friendly, most people will be nice and friendly in return, and it feels good to give and receive these positive vibes. That's why in a class of 50, i can say that i like everyone there, and have a good relationship, even friendship, with them. It's just a matter of saying "hi" every day, asking people how they've been, small talk about hobbies and interests, not thinking too much about it, just being gentle.

Now, i know you're looking for something more than that, but from my experience, this is how it all starts, those friendships of a life time, they start with a simple greeting and small talk, you just do that every day until it starts going further naturally, more for some people than others, and then you make the distinction of "colleague" and "friend".

Keep working hard, and i'm sure that eventually you'll defeat all loneliness with the help of some people you genuinely like. Until then, if you have trouble and feel a need for help, or maybe even just to vent, this place is full of people willing to help as much as they can. Good luck!

thank you a lot for your advice... it helps a lot, and i like seeing different point of view and feeling.. i'll try to work on that ✨
 
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Otter

Experienced
Feb 10, 2020
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for me its the opposite. i find myself to be boring. whenever im involve in a conversation i usually ask questions about the other person and avoid talking about myself or express thoughts in my head. most of the time my mind is blank and i have nothing to say. im always afraid people will judge me and think what comes out of my mouth is total rubbish. even if i have an interesting insight i want to express it will come off dumb because im not very articulate.
This so me! I can be very articulate when writing, but not face to face
 
Mm80

Mm80

Enlightened
May 15, 2019
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I feel the same way. I'm autistic, so the feeling of not being able to relate to people is amplified even more. I just don't find people as individuals interesting. Human beings as a whole are quite intriguing from a psychological perspective, but I don't have any interest in chit-chatting with the average person on the street. It's not fun for me
While reading through the op post and replies, i thought of autism straight away. Im autistic and can relate especially to the chit chatting. I find human behaviour quite predictable and boring and dont feel like im part of the same species tbh.
 
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muffin222

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While reading through the op post and replies, i thought of autism straight away. Im autistic and can relate especially to the chit chatting. I find human behaviour quite predictable and boring and dont feel like im part of the same species tbh.
Same here. I feel like I'm from another world where everyone speaks a different language, and I know just enough of it to "get around", but not enough to feel like I'm apart of the rest of the world. Ah well :hug:
 
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Arvinneedstodie

Existing is not living
Sep 17, 2018
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I have been an observer my whole life. Maybe i have undiagnosed autism, maybe it's just who I am, but I feel like I operate on a different wavelength than the world. I also have this dept to my thought that most people don't seem to bother with. I used to be very narcissistic and think I'm way too smart for most people, but as I get older I realized that it is me who is missing out. I am nothing but an observer in this life. I fear and also can't wait for the day the game no longer interests me.
 
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Otter

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I have been an observer my whole life. Maybe i have undiagnosed autism, maybe it's just who I am, but I feel like I operate on a different wavelength than the world. I also have this dept to my thought that most people don't seem to bother with. I used to be very narcissistic and think I'm way too smart for most people, but as I get older I realized that it is me who is missing out. I am nothing but an observer in this life. I fear and also can't wait for the day the game no longer interests me.
I always described it as everybody is playing a giant game (think Monopoly or Poker), but nobody told me the rules or explained how to play!
 
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for me its the opposite. i find myself to be boring. whenever im involve in a conversation i usually ask questions about the other person and avoid talking about myself or express thoughts in my head. most of the time my mind is blank and i have nothing to say. im always afraid people will judge me and think what comes out of my mouth is total rubbish. even if i have an interesting insight i want to express it will come off dumb because im not very articulate.

Feel exactly the same. My life revolves around asking about other people and then I feel angry sometimes when people dont ask about me. Though, it's mostly my own doing as I'm always on the defensive and shoot any conversation about me down before it even starts.
 
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Otter

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Feel exactly the same. My life revolves around asking about other people and then I feel angry sometimes when people dont ask about me. Though, it's mostly my own doing as I'm always on the defensive and shoot any conversation about me down before it even starts.
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I do this, as well, Severly introverted. I always laugh because people tell me I'm such a good listener
 

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