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Valhala

Valhala

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Jul 30, 2024
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They use N and not SN. And I suspect it's at least a thousand or 2,000 CHF just for the drugs. (It became so expensive in the United States they don't use it anymore for MAID). Another 2,000 for cremation. I believe on the Dignitas site it gets into more where the all the fees go towards.
The real market retail price for N is 20 - 40 dollars per bottle. For a lethal outcome you need 2, maximum 3 bottles so do the math yourself. The price of 2000 dollars for a lethal dose is absolutely exaggerated and unrealistic.
 
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tulero

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Mar 20, 2025
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5 figures is a lot of money, but that's not the real problem. if you live in a first world country is a matter of working a few months till you have the money

the problem is always the same

- are you younger ? probably rejected, we dont want to deal with youngers since its controversial to "kill" young people

- are you just mentally illness ? -> probably rejected again, you are not suffering a "real pain" and doesnt fit their standars

having to pass a burocratic procedure is just a mess. I mean, I can understand you have to pass at least one psychological test to ensure you are not being forced to something you dont wan agains your will. But aside of that ?
 
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J&L383

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Jul 18, 2023
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The real market retail price for N is 20 - 40 dollars per bottle. For a lethal outcome you need 2, maximum 3 bottles so do the math yourself. The price of 2000 dollars for a lethal dose is absolutely exaggerated and unrealistic.
That's what I read the price was in Oregon and why they stopped using it (and then the capital punishment industry sealed it because manufacturers didn't want them to get their hands on it) but I don't know any idea outside of Oregon. I was just guessing on that.
 
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PhDone

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Jul 29, 2024
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How did you get cfs/me?
I suspect I initially got a mild form post-viral having had chicken pox back maybe 15yrs ago. Just kept sleeping loads and then just always had to have good amounts of sleep or I'd be f'd. Then a couple of years ago went thro severe insomnia and bang, suddenly couldnt get off the sofa and all these neurological symptoms started, brain burning and limb numbness. Utterly gross disease. Been getting steadily worse since then, heaps of deconditioning to add to the nightmare too.
 
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sad_dog

Member
Apr 1, 2025
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I've heard multiple accounts of them denying people, particularly young folks (like under 40). Pegasos and Dignitas seem very accepting but ultimately are still pretty picky.
 
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RinneOfAragon

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Jan 2, 2025
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erm I emailed them beginning of December and only got an automated response. Then I found this place and didn't chase it up.
 
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seizmic_purple

Member
Apr 12, 2025
40
Any updates on this? I have just read about Pegasos today and felt optimistic because their website sounds as if anyone can get accepted as long as you're an adult and of 'sound mind'. But after reading some of these comments, I wonder whether someone got the confirmation about the refund (maybe also in an email correspondence with Pegasos) or if someone (along with OP) actually applied?
 
aiyuxhan

aiyuxhan

Experienced
Mar 28, 2025
292
It makes sense that they would be nervous about providing their services for people who are much younger. I don't feel that's right, because a younger person has a lot more potential time to suffer than an older person, but I see their side of it as well. They probably see somebody who's younger and suffering from just depression as being a strong candidate for recovery.

I've sent in my initial letter explaining my background and situation, and I'm waiting to hear back as to whether or not I likely qualify. We'll see what happens.
Yeah, I think it's stupid and not fair that they're like that with younger people. I'm in my 30's. I don't want to go 20-40 more years of this 🙄

Also sadly for me, I'm too poor to even try to apply. So, I'm just gonna do it in an affordable way myself
I wrote them yesterday and also stated my diagnosis of chronic pain and how it's getting worse. I described that I have medical records. I got an answer today that they won't accept my application based on these facts and age (33).
I'm so sorry! And I knew it! I'm 32!
 
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anonymousperson

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Feb 27, 2025
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The real market retail price for N is 20 - 40 dollars per bottle. For a lethal outcome you need 2, maximum 3 bottles so do the math yourself. The price of 2000 dollars for a lethal dose is absolutely exaggerated and unrealistic.
Their website says its 12k for it not 2k?
 
JayJay

JayJay

Student
Jun 17, 2022
140
Pegasos doesn't really care all that much about your health situation, what they care about is your right to choose. They're smart enough to know that you're not going to want to die, unless you're actually suffering intolerably. They just want to make sure that you are of sound mind to really know what you're doing, and that you're not being coerced into the decision.

Dignitas in Switzerland is much more strict than Pegasos. For those who have tried Dignitas and failed to qualify, please try Pegasos. There is a HUGE difference in their philosophies, and I can almost guarantee that Pegasos will say yes!

They are both legal assisted suicide clinics in Switzerland that cater to mostly international clients.

There is a significant cost involved, and some travel, but it is definitely a really great option for many people.

Their official philosophy is that it is the right of every rational adult of sound mind, regardless of their state of health, to choose the manner and timing of their death.

The fact that Pegasos exists, is proof that the attitudes of people in the world about the right to die, and legal assisted suicide, are changing dramatically, and quickly.

To speed up this process even further, right to your local elected representative. Links provided for all English-speaking countries in this thread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...sentatives-politicians-links-provided.183953/
But this is located in Switzerland. It's one of the hardest countries to gain citizenship. I don't think we will have assisted dying clinics anytime soon. Would be bad publicity for the governments. The government would hate to kill off their tax payers.
 
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J&L383

Enlightened
Jul 18, 2023
1,012
Legalizing assisted suicide in other countries is a long process but it has to start somewhere. Slowly, state-by-state, the United States are passing laws, but they are very restrictive compared to Switzerland and even Canada. It would be nice if countries other than Switzerland would accept foreigners (BeNeLux and Canada?), and with the Switzerland criteria, but for now it's all we have to work with.