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lucid

lucid

antinatalist specialist
Jun 29, 2019
177
It's weird, considering I know the way(s) I want to die so that I have the control over it, but also part of me wants out soon any way possible that doesn't involve me planning something, you know ? Just whatever comes along. Like how I have the urge to cross the road without looking; I could be lucky, or I could be lucky.
From what I looked into, it's not very pleasant to have COVID, I'm aware of that. But I'm really getting tired of everything. Some things bring me joy, then eventually it returns to mind that this is temporary. Everything is temporary. What I'm living for (my family, my friends will be lost, either through life or when the inevitable happens. Oh well. Possible I could catch it regardless, just not really guaranteed I'm going to die from it maybe. Always a possibility, though.
 
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slyna

Student
Jul 30, 2021
154
Sorry to break it for you buy getting that vaccine is more dangerous than not taking it
 
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lucid

antinatalist specialist
Jun 29, 2019
177
Sorry to break it for you buy getting that vaccine is more dangerous than not taking it
Part of the reason I wasn't going to get it was because I didn't trust it. How so, anyway ?
 
RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

Administrator
Jun 12, 2018
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First of all, the vaccine is safe because it fulfills all scientific standards. Plenty of clinical (phase 3) trials finished at this point and many peer-reviewed studies examined the safety and efficiency of the vaccination. There is no valid reason to doubt the vaccination at this point, considering over 4 billion shots have been administered worldwide and in the US, only 0.0019% of people died after they've been vaccinated. Research into these cases couldn't conclude any causal link(!) between the vaccine and the cause of their death. The side effects are also minimal and in most cases, only occur temporarily. It's basically fear-mongering, nothing else. Here is a report of the CDC:

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And here is just one article breaking down some of the scientific conclusions:

Second, I understand your desire to die but keep in mind, being vaccinated also protects other vulnerable people who don't want to die. You're doing a good service here. Plus, dying from COVID is terrible. It's a painful and exhausting process, like you're literally slowly choking to death. I don't recommend this method at all. If you're unfortunate, you might even survive with long-term damage to your lungs. There are other long-term consequences in case of an infection, called long-COVID:
Most other methods discussed in this forum have a better rating when it comes to the peacefulness and reliability, SN is top-tier compared to this disease.

So maybe the idea that this is a very unreliable and painful death, that you could survive with long-term damage and that you're doing some kind of service to the community helps to ease that regret. There are better, more reliable and less exhausting methods, example listed above. I hope I could provide some constructive input to your dilemma.
 
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Sorry to break it for you buy gettonh that vaccine is more dangerous than not
First of all, the vaccine is safe because it fulfills all scientific standards. Plenty of clinical (phase 3) trials finished at this point and many peer-reviewed studies examined the safety and efficiency of the vaccination. There is no valid reason to doubt the vaccination at this point, considering over 4 billion shots have been administered worldwide and in the US, only 0.0019% of people died after they've been vaccinated. Research into these cases couldn't conclude any causal link(!) between the vaccine and the cause of their death. The side effects are also minimal and in most cases, only occur temporarily. It's basically fear-mongering, nothing else. Here is a report of the CDC:

View attachment 71948

And here is just one article breaking down some of the scientific conclusions:

Second, I understand your desire to die but keep in mind, being vaccinated also protects other vulnerable people who don't want to die. You're doing a good service here. Plus, dying from COVID is terrible. It's a painful and exhausting process, like you're literally slowly choking to death. I don't recommend this method at all. If you're unfortunate, you might even survive with long-term damage to your lungs. There are other long-term consequences in case of an infection, called long-COVID:
Most other methods discussed in this forum have a better rating when it comes to the peacefulness and reliability, SN is top-tier compared to this disease.

So maybe the idea that this is a very unreliable and painful death, that you could survive with long-term damage and that you're doing some kind of service to the community helps to ease that regret. There are better, more reliable and less exhausting methods, example listed above. I hope I could provide some constructive input to your dilemma.
Im not gonna argue here cause I don't have the strength but I advise everyone reading this comment to research yourself and don't take anyone's word even if it's like Rain a mod here
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I'm sorry you are suffering, I can relate to how you feel, I want to have control over my death but at the same time I would like to be taken away randomly so I do not have to do it myself. Living really can be tiring. I think personally, I am glad I got the vaccine as covid would be unlikely to kill me and it would probably leave me with more health problems. I wish you well.
 
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Midgardsorm

Paragon
Apr 28, 2020
917
Hi. Dying from Covid is really painful.
Also, you might not die, but have long lasting damages from the disease, dizziness, lung damages...

Trust me, I have breathing issues and I don't desire that for no one.

It would be better to get the vaccine and if you need to ctb, you can do it later from a less painful and faster method of your choosing.

I wish you the best.
 
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HopelessFight

Warlock
Jan 31, 2021
740
Sorry to break it for you buy getting that vaccine is more dangerous than not taking it
Here we go again....

Trust me, dying from COVID is not the way you want to leave this world. You've done a good thing. Not just for yourself, but for other people as well.
 
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The Lonely

The Lonely

Arcanist
Jan 26, 2021
406
I didn't wanted to take this because other people Deserved it better(…).

I just took it because Not Taking would be totally like a Suicide Alarm, (since I even mentioned to my psychologist I didn't intended to…)

Then, Me, full of guilty and shame…. Went into the line :/
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*** After reading yours point of view (up here) I realize that I'm the weirdo again…

Because for me there's an Ethic 'problem' about taking this while planning to die soon.

I wish I was 'normal'… :/ like in the other post you were discussing about which one to take…

Reason number One hundred and One to CTB..
 
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Jun 29, 2019
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First of all, the vaccine is safe because it fulfills all scientific standards. Plenty of clinical (phase 3) trials finished at this point and many peer-reviewed studies examined the safety and efficiency of the vaccination. There is no valid reason to doubt the vaccination at this point, considering over 4 billion shots have been administered worldwide and in the US, only 0.0019% of people died after they've been vaccinated. Research into these cases couldn't conclude any causal link(!) between the vaccine and the cause of their death. The side effects are also minimal and in most cases, only occur temporarily. It's basically fear-mongering, nothing else. Here is a report of the CDC:

View attachment 71948

And here is just one article breaking down some of the scientific conclusions:

Second, I understand your desire to die but keep in mind, being vaccinated also protects other vulnerable people who don't want to die. You're doing a good service here. Plus, dying from COVID is terrible. It's a painful and exhausting process, like you're literally slowly choking to death. I don't recommend this method at all. If you're unfortunate, you might even survive with long-term damage to your lungs. There are other long-term consequences in case of an infection, called long-COVID:
Most other methods discussed in this forum have a better rating when it comes to the peacefulness and reliability, SN is top-tier compared to this disease.

So maybe the idea that this is a very unreliable and painful death, that you could survive with long-term damage and that you're doing some kind of service to the community helps to ease that regret. There are better, more reliable and less exhausting methods, example listed above. I hope I could provide some constructive input to your dilemma.
Thank you for the extensive information, you did provide very constructive input. I do realise now it wouldn't really be a great idea even if were at random. I don't think I could live with myself (as much as I already can't) knowing because I wanted to die sooner that people I loved died because of me.
I'm sorry you are suffering, I can relate to how you feel, I want to have control over my death but at the same time I would like to be taken away randomly so I do not have to do it myself. Living really can be tiring. I think personally, I am glad I got the vaccine as covid would be unlikely to kill me and it would probably leave me with more health problems. I wish you well.
Precisely this, as nice as having a plan is, some days I just want to disappear without a word. It's a hard choice personally but if it happens then having to choose wouldn't really be an issue.
I didn't wanted to take this because other people Deserved it better(…).

I just took it because Not Taking would be totally like a Suicide Alarm, (since I even mentioned to my psychologist I didn't intended to…)

Then, Me, full of guilty and shame…. Went into the line :/
————————————————————————————————————————————————

*** After reading yours point of view (up here) I realize that I'm the weirdo again…

Because for me there's an Ethic 'problem' about taking this while planning to die soon.

I wish I was 'normal'… :/ like in the other post you were discussing about which one to take…

Reason number One hundred and One to CTB..
I understand you, as much as I do have the partial mindset that we live to die, again I don't think I could handle losing those I do love because of myself. Even in a general view, I don't know how to feel or what to think. I always fight with myself in my head about this entire thing.
 
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